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Old 02-10-2008, 03:28 PM
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Is this the same igniter?
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sharp eye.

Hmm, Bosch coils?
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Looking at the parts prices...the nice brackets..the wiring harness...the thinking to make it work...I wouldn't waste my time making it myself for the price that Mazsport sells this upgrade for.
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Originally Posted by dannobre
Looking at the parts prices...the nice brackets..the wiring harness...the thinking to make it work...I wouldn't waste my time making it myself for the price that Mazsport sells this upgrade for.
No joke...just the brackets alone are worth the little extra...

Secure mounting is always a good thing...
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Originally Posted by mysql101
If you want something at cost, feel free to make your own solution. But keep in mind that we've waited for an ignition solution that works for the RX-8 for about 4 years now, and this is the first thing that has allowed us to go over the 330 whp barrier.

So if you could have done it yourself, you should ask yourself why you didn't do so earlier.
Simple answer...its because they were all like...



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Originally Posted by mysql101
If you want something at cost, feel free to make your own solution. But keep in mind that we've waited for an ignition solution that works for the RX-8 for about 4 years now, and this is the first thing that has allowed us to go over the 330 whp barrier.

So if you could have done it yourself, you should ask yourself why you didn't do so earlier.
Other than the fact that most people were not pushing over the 300hp mark. So it was not needed.
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^^ for sure....seems to have a bee in his bonnet

I was going to do the Bosch/ Microtech thing...until I talked to Scott...and he told me the price he was charging for this

Didn't see much point after that......
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Jason, I think you might be misunderstanding a statement that was made a couple posts back; the point that was actually being made was that even though some of us are putting our heads together and discovering the components in the Mazsport Coil Set none of us would want to try and build it all for ourselves nor "steal" the idea from Scott as he did a damned good job, visially anyway, and novody would bother trying to improve upon it. Even the price seems fair for what we are getting.
If we wouldn't want to improve on something then why do we mod our cars...



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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Yeah, you're right; Scott didn't do it right nor did he do it cheap enough so I guess there is a LOT of room for improvement with the Mazsport Ignition Solution.

Is this what you are trying to say?
No, Charles I mentioned the components to better understand the upgrade. As to why it was such a mystery.

Scott does a great job with his enhancements, I don't question that as he has a decent track record with customers and his components.

I wouldn't have an Int-X or the cooling mod if he didn't.
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Originally Posted by mysql101
hehe. If he wants to do it, that's fine with me. The thing is, unless you're SELLING it in quantity, the amount of time and effort to not only source the hardware, but build the wiring harness, brackets, etc, then test and run with it, would far exceed the entire cost of the ignition upgrade if you calculate how much your time is worth had you spent that amount of time at your day job.

I don't want to come across as being defensive, I have got no personal gain in this. Just a satisfied customer.


Assuming the parts listed above are the parts used in this kit, you're looking at
$130 for ignition system
$60x4 for coils.
$100+? for custom spark wires
That's $470, then custom harness for oem coils to new system, then custom brackets for ignition and coils.

Looks like you'd be losing money making it on your own
Your right... if a person had to pay retail.
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Originally Posted by mysql101
Even buying at wholesale prices, you're not going to be buying for a significant amount less than the prices you can find online. The total I listed earlier still doesn't factor in shipping costs to your location (assuming you have to source it from different distributors), possible taxes, the wiring harnesses, mounting plates, etc. plus your time and effort (Seldom can you create something from scratch and have it work flawlessly the first time).

Anyway, I find it pointless to argue further on this topic with you.
heh its all relative...

my time is worth more then the "lowest" per hour rate of $100 per hr...

but then again...some people sell themselves for $20 per hr...

for some of them...it makes sense...

its all about the variables in your equation...and thus...all relative...

some will justify the costs as "learning"...fine...

i do not need to learn anything new...and thus its cheaper for me to buy a solution and be done with it...

no sense in wasting my time on that noise...
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Yes but often you don't measure things in $/hr so long as you are having fun doing it . I have some guys remodling a bathroom for me right now - I could do it if I wanted but i'd rather sit here talking to you nice folks - heh .
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Yes but often you don't measure things in $/hr so long as you are having fun doing it . I have some guys remodling a bathroom for me right now - I could do it if I wanted but i'd rather sit here talking to you nice folks - heh .
That's actually a leisure time calculation...thats SIGNIFICANTLY higher than my "work" rate...
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I won't do anything...especially something I don't like for less than $200 per hour

Go figure though...I do my own oil changes and crawl around under the car all the time....must be crazy.....
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Originally Posted by dannobre
I won't do anything...especially something I don't like for less than $200 per hour

Go figure though...I do my own oil changes and crawl around under the car all the time....must be crazy.....
Heh...when you enjoy it...the rate goes down...its called the "FUN" rate...and its SIGNIFICANTLY less than the "work" rate...
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Good thing that I love working on the car...otherwise the engine swap and all the other crap I've been building would be really expensive

I can't wait to get it done and post some pictures
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Your right... if a person had to pay retail.
I support Mazsport's Ignition solution. There is no need to "back door" their company.

They have put everything together, at a good price, he is a name you can trust, and you know it was all put together properly. Furthermore, the RX-8 has waited for this solution for years and it's here thanks to Mazsport.
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Thank you for your feedback, and keep it coming....

The list you have on this site is inaccurate for the orders that have shipped. We are shipping them in the order that they were placed which includes outside sales, rx8club.com sales and International sales. We have sent out over 25 of the Ignition Solutions currently and are filling the waiting orders as fast as humanly possible.

We would like to thank those who have purchased this product and are at the cutting edge of development as we continue to create performance products for the RX8. We have increased our staff in an effort to speed up production as well. Thank you for your patience and continued support.

If you have any questions regarding technical support or you order you can email us at sales@mazsport.net.
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I have a question. How long are these coils supposed to last and if one goes out is it another $600 again?
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This kit is not only an definate upgrade(who all has actually seen a spark test on the oem ignition--its orange/yellow/blue!), it is absoulutely beautiful in its design. I am glad i have them mounted out front as my fi kit allows this.
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Originally Posted by Vasichko
I have a question. How long are these coils supposed to last and if one goes out is it another $600 again?
I would imagine that they would offer the coils by themselves for replacement.

Longevity of the coils is a good question. Have any failed yet?

Another question I have is of the Microtech igniter. Will it wear out like the coils?
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Originally Posted by mysql101
Because it's more completely igniting the fuel.

When upgrading the ignition system, this is a common side effect especially under boost/heavy load at high rpm, because the car was tuned to run with a weak spark.

Usually it's leaner by 0.1 - 0.5 AFR, if your old ignition system was really bad, you might be up to 1 AFR leaner.
which is why i'd like to know if for NA purposes where the gains shown are coming from... better ignition, or just higher AFR's which the ecu will adjust for over time
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Originally Posted by mysql101
I would assume a bit of both.

You might be able to better judge if you find out how much time passed between the ignition system being installed, till it was dynoed.
That is a good point Jason.

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Okay does this apply to Int-X applications?
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^ there you just have to retune it yourself because its incapable of learning as it has no feedback to use


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