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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
248whp = 240whp....differences of 8 peak hp could be the result of atmospheric conditions, spark plugs...may factors. I've seen (not with my rx8, but a previous boosted car) 7hp from simply changing old (3 weeks old) spark plugs for new plugs, on back-to-back dynos.
Also, the stock car hp differences are all over place I think the car that got 240 whp started at 174 whp. My car had 179 whp, and some stock dynos I have seen are at 185 whp. Tough to get a consistent baseline for this car. Not to mention many different kinds of dynos. These should be seen as approximate not exact examples of hp gain from the turbo releases.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fanman
Also, the stock car hp differences are all over place I think the car that got 240 whp started at 174 whp. My car had 179 whp, and some stock dynos I have seen are at 185 whp. Tough to get a consistent baseline for this car. Not to mention many different kinds of dynos. These should be seen as approximate not exact examples of hp gain from the turbo releases.
Exactly - People forget that a dyno is a snapshot in time of what a car produces, Id Est, a dyno run shows what 'that' car produced, on 'that' day, under 'those' conditions, on 'that' dyno. I don't care HOW much validity people put in 'Corrected' dyno numbers, nothing can replicate. FlyinMiata claims corrected HP for their turbo/sc kits...why? they are at 5000 feet or more in altitude. Frankly, most people I know dyno a bit less - even corrected.

(shrug).

People shouldn't put too much stock in what a particular dyno session tells them.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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FYI, RX8garage.net now has the least expensive price that I have seen. With "Gold" pricing it is $2928. $1 less than www.city-speed.com.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
Exactly - People forget that a dyno is a snapshot in time of what a car produces, Id Est, a dyno run shows what 'that' car produced, on 'that' day, under 'those' conditions, on 'that' dyno. I don't care HOW much validity people put in 'Corrected' dyno numbers, nothing can replicate. FlyinMiata claims corrected HP for their turbo/sc kits...why? they are at 5000 feet or more in altitude. Frankly, most people I know dyno a bit less - even corrected.

(shrug).

People shouldn't put too much stock in what a particular dyno session tells them.
I agree with that. For the most accurate results you should use uncorrected. Many people don't live at sea level on a 60 degree low humidity day. Uncorrected numbers tell you what your car is putting out right now, right here. That's what matters. Corrected numbers are good for bench racing. I might as well say that my car would have much more power if our atmosphere was as dense as Jupiter's and therefore I'm going to correct for it. I'm not there though so it doesn't matter.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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...close but I can only imagine.

:p :p :p
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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all i know right now is that number...248. and i only mentioned it to provide some consistency in what we're seeing here. 248 might as well be 240 or 238 or 251 or whatever.

the pull was done on a dynojet, id guess in the mid 70's ambient. ill know more on thursday when i go take a look at it :D

(ps - lets not turn this into another dyno X rates higher than dyno Y battle)
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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OK so it's lighter. Maybe I should have said Venus instead.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fanman
FYI, RX8garage.net now has the least expensive price that I have seen. With "Gold" pricing it is $2928. $1 less than www.city-speed.com.
Ordered mine from him this weekend. It should be on it's way here.
Add me to the "boosted list".
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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ordered mine from chuck at rotary extreme for 2800
said he is selling out his tubos "at cost"
maybe, but feel i got the best price i could find.
wonder what prices will be like in a year when all the people are boosted?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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Damn, that's a great price. Chuck is a real good guy. Usual prices I see are somewhere between $2900+ to $3300. Make sure that all the pieces are there. My mechanic wound up fabbing me one of the pipes because it was missing. In talking with some of the 350Z guys they miss parts too. The build quality is top notch, the assembly (of all the parts into the boxes) has turned out to be spotty.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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hey fred...
youve bee awefully quiet about YOUR turbo...how's it going?
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rudy8
hey fred...
youve bee awefully quiet about YOUR turbo...how's it going?
Who me?
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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Who me?
No that's for me RG. Actaully I was expecting it back last week, but a few things went wrong here & there.

1) The kit was missing one piece of the piping. So they had to fab one up for me.

2) Thre is no provision in the kit for a BOV, so they had to make one. Only
problem is when they did that they drove it up & down the street & it stalled.
Found out the BOV was letting the gases go too fast so the maf sensor freaked
out. My mechanic just made the hole smaller.

3) The IC brackets were too thin so the IC was flopping back & forth. My
mechanic (and I agree with him) thought this might damage the IC if it rubbed
against bumper the wrong way, so he fashioned a couple steel brackets that
now hold my IC on very securely.

Should be picking up the car tomorrow (fingers crossed). Probably putting the rims & tires on a bit later (still trying to figure out what to do with the TPMS, nobody wants to tough those.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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wow, the wonderful world of aftermarket...hope it goes better!
btw, fred, i ordered my turbo and is shipping tommorow.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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i get mine tomorrow
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rudy8
wow, the wonderful world of aftermarket...hope it goes better!
btw, fred, i ordered my turbo and is shipping tommorow.
Good luck Rudy. You may want to open your box & make sure all the parts are there. Chuck over at Rotary Extreme is a real good guy. Unfortunately you won't be able to use your RE intake anymore. Welcome to the turbo club (you to ttt) & I hope you are posting dyno #'s too. Let us know how the install goes. Are you getting a BOV. Greddy has 3 types, the Type S, new Type RS, & big Type R.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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So once your turbo is installed does the mechanic that puts it in now become your life long partner for any problems you may have? Mazda wont touch the car anymore right?
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 01:11 AM
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Is it a possiblity that Greddy could come out with an upgraded turbo (a bigger one) to put on this kit to increase the hp? Seems as though the compition has claims to higher hp gains... Just curious before I make my decision which FI to go with.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 01:54 AM
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I don't think anybody has had the turbo kit on long enough to know whether or not their dealership will have a problem with the car. I agree with you thet they probably will. I have pretty much given up any notion of warranty work on my car the minute I bought the turbo kit.

I don't really see Greddy coming out with an upgraded turbo for this kit. Just the fact that this kit comes with a pretty small IC (probably good for a couple more lbs. of boost or about 300 whp max), and no additional fuel injectors I can't see an upgrade kit unless it includes additional parts (upgraded fuel injectors/fuel system in addition to the turbo). The weak point of this car is the fuel system. The turbo is said to be good for up to 400 hp.

Honestly after getting this kit I did not realize the extra expenses involved with putting on the turbo kit. The labor, the gauges, the guage pod, etc. Even at $2900 for the kit, it has wound up costing me a pretty penny. I just can't imagine if the kit was $5000-$6000 then throw in all this stuff.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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Cool

thanks for the heads up fred.
i talked with chuck last night and he said he will check it before it goes out today, but he did not sound commited. i can only hope for the best. fabbing parys while your 8 is all broken up and waiting sorrowfully for you to come to the rescue can really be a heartbreaking experience for both parties!
he also sold the last one at that price and im hoping its in tac
im no going to be able to put it on until weather warms...my freind the gearhead is afraid of the cold (violins please!)
warranty no, more fun and money spent yes.
any opinions on best bov? i was looking at a hybrid valve from a couple of companies. also, the s type from greddy seems popular.
also, there is some discussion on the best place to mount it...what did you do fred?

also, good luck ttt!

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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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Well everyone. After a hell of a time tring to get the base map from GReddy, they finally sent it to me. I'll post a download link here as soon as I can upload it to my website. Just look for it there in the downloads section. Check around 1pm EST.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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On behalf of all other GReddy tubo owners -- THANK YOU!!!! :D
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Okay guys, got it uploaded. You may download it here at this link:

www.turborx8.net/downloads/US_TK_RX8_12_30_04(new)_.GSC

**EDIT** You will have to cut/paste the link for it to work **EDIT**


DISCLAIMER: I accept no responsibility for this map. It is "as is" from GReddy. Any problems with it should be directed to GReddy. Thanks.

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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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It says it needs some sort of molecular biology software to open a .GSC file
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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It says it needs some sort of molecular biology software to open a .GSC file
You need the Greddy Support Tool.
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