That's what I thought.

 

so you dont build engines and all you do is bolt on parts?and you sit at home and write on the forum, guessing with over 23000 post.

 

You guess wrong noob. Unlike you, my successes and failures in RX-8 building are well documented. If it's on or in an RX-8 I have worked on it.

 

i see

 

So what base map will you start with on his tune? What will you do to create a VE table for his boosted application? He is running the BHR kit IIRC, will you guess on the dwell settings? How about timing math?

 

heres an idea....don't use cobb...im sure glad all those racing teams out there running renesis blocks use cobb...wait they don't...if i documented all of my work i wouldn't be able to do about half of it... ive swapped hundreds of renesis engines, built several, as well as rx-7s from 12As to 20b projects, only the special ones get doc. only reason im one here today is for javier20B and work is slow...no renesis engines to swap. ...
as far as tuning do little math and you can have a starting map...your right its not easy...but its fun...
oh yeah not many failure from javier 20B...none in the 5 years ive known him

 

Tuning turbo RX-8's is easy that's why there are only two successful RX-8 tuners out there.

 

Im guesing the program works so well that they blew his motor. Oh yeah one of the 2 pro tunners

 

Okay expert, well then tell me what stand alone you would use on a daily driven street legal RX-8?



Why are you avoiding answering my questions? If you are a tuner you should be able to answer them easily.

 

Esmeril Racing - Microtech for Mazda RX-8
here is one its plug and play

 

::wispers:: tell me all your secrets.

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOL You are fired, use the adaptronic if you wont use the cobb.

The OP poped an apex seal because he wasn't finished his tuning with MM, he went WOT then blew his **** up.

That seal most likely damaged the turbo and the engine. This isn't a tuning issue this is operator error and will cost at least $6000 to fix.

MM is a very documented and accomplished tuner you are an idiot if you think that is not the case.

 

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Yeah, go ahead and use that one, it works great. Thanks for proving my point.

 

never said anything about MM.... i do agree it was op error... but if it was dyno tuned instead of email tuned it would have been fine

 

holly **** 6 grand. thats a lot of money for an engine rebuild.

 

No but your buddy did. I am still waiting on your ECU recommendation.

 

For a rookie rebuild from you, yes. For Darrel Drummond rebuild with ceramic apex seals you will need twice that at least.

 

I would still like to hear your answers to my tuning questions.

 

not taking sides with anyone here but.... IRT this comment, I can say that if he received his tune and performed his driving cycles in accordance with the instructions given, he would not have blown his engine:

"ON BOOSTED APPLICATIONS – IF YOU OBSERVE EQUIVALENCE RATIOS (AFR) ABOVE 12.0 AT MANIFOLD PRESSURES OVER 3 PSI OR HEAR AUDIBLE RATTLE OR KNOCK, IMMEDIATELY RELEASE THE GAS PEDAL AND DO NOT ATTEMPT ANOTHER WOT PASS"

The OP's post indicates that he went into WOT numerous times...could have been the tune or a number of other issues...

 

$1k for flying your almighty *** out there.

$3,000 for an engine rebuild, will need at least one new housing, rotor, etc. I'd say $3k is the minimum for not seeing the engine torn apart.

$1,xxx for a new turbo, unless you want to go cheap and get a new turbine off ebay then send it balanced. so the minimum would be $300

$300 ish for tuning? Not sure how much to value yourself.

$500 for unseen random crap.

I forgot to include shipping and other fees.... Not sure what they will be.

Also I am not sure what you are charging to remove and install all this crap for him.

If he gets out under $6,000 US I'll be surprised.

 

i guess we have sticker shock since we do ourself and since its a passion we often do it for free

 

Man you two (mfishe and javier20b) talk a lot of **** but don't answer any questions.

 

So you are flying to Germany on your own dime, rebuilding an engine/turbo and doing all the tuning for free?

 

Yes yes this was noted when I downloaded the ATR software. And that is why I will be showing him the program first to see if he can work with it... and if we needed guidance on a base map I would hope I could reach out to the '4 or 5 tuners' on the forum Kane, Brettus, 9K, etc. and get some help you know since this is a RX8 forum.............. but I have confident Javier20b can rebuilt my engine and have me back on the road. As far as tuning, if it comes down to it another $150 will be in MM's pocket and its back to loading the base map.... and waiting. :-/

 

so much awesome in this thread.