9krpmrx8

iTrader: (46)

Wow, 3 whole Renesis engine builds.... And what does building a Renesis have to do with tuning one?

Javier20b

It's all the same dude

TeamRX8

iTrader: (25)

yeah if you think so then one zoom-zoom-boom coming right up

9krpmrx8

iTrader: (46)

Yeah okay. You actually sound exactly like most of the other RX-7 "tuners" I have met. Ignorance is bliss. Good luck OP, you will need it. This guy is clueless.

Javier20b

Since you have so much expiriance to talk. That's what I love about this thread, people have their car built by someone els and all the sudden they become rotary gurus. Got to love it.

mfishe12

Javier 20b is a pretty awesome dude with rotarys!... rx7 guys don't tune renny's because they are interior to a 7 block....other than high comp rotors, the multiport and MOP hold it back.

darthrotary

I have known Javier for years, seen him rebuild several motors, seen him tune as well. The guy knows what he is doing and what he is talking about.

mfishe12

To start talking trash about a guy before you have even talked to him or seen his work is ignorant!
like it would be ignorant of me to assume that becuase of your attitude you came from a Honda or Hyundai group before
tuning is all the same for the most part. learing a differnet interface or software is the easy part. as long as you can maintain good AFRs and get your timing maps right your car will run fine for along time.
as far as cobb tuners go. they are fine for basic bolt ons. if you go forced induction you need to have a dyno tune not an email tune.. seen plenty of blown up STIs, speed 3s, turbo 8's blown up because they ran lean or had too much advance while they were waiting for an email to show up with their new tune.
"Oh sorry your car blew up, the Data log you sent me didn't show that 1.546 LAMDA at full boost at 8700 rpm" says the remote tuner. Im sure that he is a good tuner, but you can't account for all driving conditions.
and lastly....I am soo tired of some RX-8 owners on their high horse! come off it and join us in the wonderful world of all things rotary!...

cornholio135

iTrader: (2)

geesh calm down...

mfishe12

04-11 Rx8 Atkins Cryogenically Treated Apex...

and here ya go stronger apex seals

bse50

Except that they're known not to seal well and costed some members here a new rebuild right after finshing the first one with them...

mfishe12

Renesis Seals

oh and more stronger seals

bse50

You don't need strong seals. You need seals that seal while not being harsh on the housings.

Javier20b

Goopy 2mm Rx-8 Apex Seals - Turblown Engineering

Here is another apex seal stronger than stock.

mfishe12

I've used them with very good luck!... but you hvae to make sure that your housing is flat... due to the MOP injectors not actually spaying the apex seal (04-08) the housing cups. it won't matter what seal you use..as soon a carbon gets inbetween the housing and the seal its all over and since the multi-side port doesn't allow the carbon to escape through the exhaust. it just keeps getting worse. pre mixing is a must with the renisis.

Javier20b

And another

RA Super Seals

mfishe12

ha ha

mfishe12

any way....Rotary Redliner
you are in good hands!

Javier20b

I’m guessing this must be their engine building experience. LMFAO

mfishe12

ha ha ha the rotor was placed in wrong...even after he looked at it gear down foo!

Javier20b

Hey Myles is that your voice. hahahahahaah

mfishe12

ha ha yeah ...i was forced to to a video for work....i hate being recorded

mfishe12

i sound like im talking to 3rd graders ha ha

9krpmrx8

iTrader: (46)

I am not a high horse and I am not bashing the guy and I don't need to meet him. I am just posting my opinion based on what I have read in his posts. His comments alone tell me that he doesn't really have a clue how to tune a turbo Renesis. You can't just decide to become a Cobb tuner one day to the next because you have some experience tuning and RX-7 on a universal Haltech. And if you think learning to tune with a Cobb via ATR then you are clueless as well. Why do you think there are only four or five competent Cobb tuners that have successfully tuned a turbo RX-8? If it was so easy every rotary tuner in the country would be doing it. Many have tried and failed miserably. What map will he start with to build off of? Not MM's map because it is locked. How will he create the VE table, etc., etc, etc.

But if you guys believe in his tuning abilities then great, knock yourself out. I will still post my opinion regardless because as of yet I haven't seen javier20b post anything that indicates he is a competent tuner or builder.


Are you implying my car was built by someone else? I am no guru by any means but I do tune my car on my own, and everything on/in it from the engine to the turbo kit, the suspension, the custom oil coolers and cooling setup, has all been installed by me with the help of my SARX friends. And I have also had a hand in just as many Renesis rebuilds as you and done almost a dozen Renesis engine swaps.

That said, some things should just be left to those with extensive experience. Just because someone can rebuild an engine doesn't always mean they should. But hey if Rotary Redliner wants someone who has never tuned a turbo Renesis before to tune his RX-8 then so be it, it's his car and his money. Sometimes we take risks and that is fine as long as we fully understand the risks. But it sounds to me like the OP has some blind loyalty to you without any real understanding of what you are capable of doing in terms of Cobb tuning.

Javier20b

You sound like a GM assembly technician. So you assemble cars. Ok got it.