Got my new turbo tune, and now my car sounds like a Subaru (w/ video)
#77
not taking sides with anyone here but.... IRT this comment, I can say that if he received his tune and performed his driving cycles in accordance with the instructions given, he would not have blown his engine:
"ON BOOSTED APPLICATIONS – IF YOU OBSERVE EQUIVALENCE RATIOS (AFR) ABOVE 12.0 AT MANIFOLD PRESSURES OVER 3 PSI OR HEAR AUDIBLE RATTLE OR KNOCK, IMMEDIATELY RELEASE THE GAS PEDAL AND DO NOT ATTEMPT ANOTHER WOT PASS"
The OP's post indicates that he went into WOT numerous times...could have been the tune or a number of other issues...
"ON BOOSTED APPLICATIONS – IF YOU OBSERVE EQUIVALENCE RATIOS (AFR) ABOVE 12.0 AT MANIFOLD PRESSURES OVER 3 PSI OR HEAR AUDIBLE RATTLE OR KNOCK, IMMEDIATELY RELEASE THE GAS PEDAL AND DO NOT ATTEMPT ANOTHER WOT PASS"
The OP's post indicates that he went into WOT numerous times...could have been the tune or a number of other issues...
#78
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Yes yes this was noted when I downloaded the ATR software. And that is why I will be showing him the program first to see if he can work with it... and if we needed guidance on a base map I would hope I could reach out to the '4 or 5 tuners' on the forum Kane, Brettus, 9K, etc. and get some help you know since this is a RX8 forum.............. but I have confident Javier20b can rebuilt my engine and have me back on the road. As far as tuning, if it comes down to it another $150 will be in MM's pocket and its back to loading the base map.... and waiting. :-/
#80
Yank My Wankel
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Esmeril Racing - Microtech for Mazda RX-8
here is one its plug and play
here is one its plug and play
The fact that this one post discredits every argument you have and can have still makes me laugh
#81
Yes yes this was noted when I downloaded the ATR software. And that is why I will be showing him the program first to see if he can work with it... and if we needed guidance on a base map I would hope I could reach out to the '4 or 5 tuners' on the forum Kane, Brettus, 9K, etc. and get some help you know since this is a RX8 forum.............. but I have confident Javier20b can rebuilt my engine and have me back on the road. As far as tuning, if it comes down to it another $150 will be in MM's pocket and its back to loading the base map.... and waiting. :-/
If he's really that good he should be able to figure out the 6 injectors' staging, the VE tables, the MAF scaling, the OMP settings, the throttle maps etc on his own...
Tuning isn't really that difficult IF you know the math behind it AND the way the stock PCM operates.
Guys like Team, MM, Kane, Kahn etc have an extensive knowledge of the system and some of them actually helped build the product you're using.
Why don't you just fly MM's *** to your place to get the job done? Get an engine from Mazmart and invest your money on MM's ticket instead of having to do it anyway, at a later date.
You could also just pm higgi or me to get a quote for a rebuilt engine and save some money on the engine\shipping to have more budget for MM's booze.
Btw the microtech is a piece of **** ecu with the resolution of a commodore 64. The race teams that didn't use a cobb had Bosch Motronic or equivalent ecus.
#82
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First thought that popped in my head was hmmm what's my wastegate doing ? Hit the gas again
you saw boost jump to 14psi and your gut told you 'lets slam the gas again' ... good work.. thumbs up
#83
I teach people in person so that owners can learn about their car and love for the rotary engine. The systems you have suggested for some reason I don’t see them in any record breaking cars. Now I do say that I’m not an expert to the people’s cars that I work on but I started building and turbo charging and using up to 500 shot of nitrous on these engines since I was 15. I’m an old man now. Learned quite a bit over the years before you where playing around with Hondas. So I will try my best to help a fellow rotary guy in need of help without him getting butt rape by everyone else.
#84
I noticed a problem, decided to hit the gas 'one more time to see' and boom.
#86
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I teach people in person so that owners can learn about their car and love for the rotary engine. The systems you have suggested for some reason I don’t see them in any record breaking cars. Now I do say that I’m not an expert to the people’s cars that I work on but I started building and turbo charging and using up to 500 shot of nitrous on these engines since I was 15. I’m an old man now. Learned quite a bit over the years before you where playing around with Hondas. So I will try my best to help a fellow rotary guy in need of help without him getting butt rape by everyone else.
you win.
#87
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Don't lump me in with Kane or Brettus. They have taught me, I am in no way on their level and I would never tune someones else's turbo RX-8 unless it was Shadycrew31 because he is aching to rebuild another engine.
#89
not trying to rub salt in your wounds, but that was not smart
#90
That's fine, I know you have a lot of knowledge man you just love to come out really A-holish sometimes... but nobody's feelings is hurt on this end from me. There are certain type of characters on every car forum and you just have to search and sift through the bs, and pick up knowledge when you can. Just wish you were more willing to guide a fellow rotor head! But who knows how many dumb questions you get.......
#91
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I teach people in person so that owners can learn about their car and love for the rotary engine. The systems you have suggested for some reason I don’t see them in any record breaking cars. Now I do say that I’m not an expert to the people’s cars that I work on but I started building and turbo charging and using up to 500 shot of nitrous on these engines since I was 15. I’m an old man now. Learned quite a bit over the years before you where playing around with Hondas. So I will try my best to help a fellow rotary guy in need of help without him getting butt rape by everyone else.
I am no youngster myself and I have a ton of experience blowing up turbocharged cars of different makes and models over the last 20 years. I have had a lot of successes with my cars over the years but I am still a noob in the scheme of things and I screw up often so I would never be so irresponsible as to make someone who doesn't know any better think I could do something that I can't. Blowing up you own **** is one thing, doing it on some one elses dime is just wrong.
But unfortunately I have seen it with rookie rotary builders time and time again.
#92
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That's fine, I know you have a lot of knowledge man you just love to come out really A-holish sometimes... but nobody's feelings is hurt on this end from me. There are certain type of characters on every car forum and you just have to search and sift through the bs, and pick up knowledge when you can. Just wish you were more willing to guide a fellow rotor head! But who knows how many dumb questions you get.......
#93
Conservative meaning, definition, English dictionary, synonym, see also ' =reliability, stability, and proper functioning.
I agree with conservative tuning for dally drivers.
I agree with conservative tuning for dally drivers.
#96
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That's fine, I know you have a lot of knowledge man you just love to come out really A-holish sometimes... but nobody's feelings is hurt on this end from me. There are certain type of characters on every car forum and you just have to search and sift through the bs, and pick up knowledge when you can. Just wish you were more willing to guide a fellow rotor head! But who knows how many dumb questions you get.......
But if you are serious and want to learn then you need to make and effort to learn all that you can. All of the info is here already. And if you don't want to learn or don't feel confident that you can (it's daunting) then just pay to get it done right the first time.
Rebuilding a Renesis is not terribly difficult honestly but tuning a turbocharged RX-8 is very involved process and takes higher level of intelligence and knowledge than the average gear head has. I consider myself a pretty intelligent person (shut up peanut gallery) and learning to tune has been very tough and I still have a ton to learn.
#97
#99
I re read the whole thread and this is what i herd....
rotary redliner: hey i blew my motor
javier20b: i can help you man its cool, i live in germany
9krpmrx8: don't trust that guy ive never meet him
blah blah tuning blah blah blah
rotary redliner: hey i blew my motor
javier20b: i can help you man its cool, i live in germany
9krpmrx8: don't trust that guy ive never meet him
blah blah tuning blah blah blah