Got my new turbo tune, and now my car sounds like a Subaru (w/ video)
01-31-2013, 10:15 AM
#53
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You guess wrong noob. Unlike you, my successes and failures in RX-8 building are well documented. If it's on or in an RX-8 I have worked on it.
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01-31-2013, 10:40 AM
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So what base map will you start with on his tune? What will you do to create a VE table for his boosted application? He is running the BHR kit IIRC, will you guess on the dwell settings? How about timing math?
01-31-2013, 10:43 AM
#56
heres an idea....don't use cobb...im sure glad all those racing teams out there running renesis blocks use cobb...wait they don't...if i documented all of my work i wouldn't be able to do about half of it... ive swapped hundreds of renesis engines, built several, as well as rx-7s from 12As to 20b projects, only the special ones get doc. only reason im one here today is for javier20B and work is slow...no renesis engines to swap. 
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as far as tuning do little math and you can have a starting map...your right its not easy...but its fun...
oh yeah not many failure from javier 20B...none in the 5 years ive known him
...as far as tuning do little math and you can have a starting map...your right its not easy...but its fun...
oh yeah not many failure from javier 20B...none in the 5 years ive known him
01-31-2013, 10:51 AM
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heres an idea....don't use cobb...im sure glad all those racing teams out there running renesis blocks use cobb...wait they don't...if i documented all of my work i wouldn't be able to do about half of it... ive swapped hundreds of renesis engines, built several, as well as rx-7s from 12As to 20b projects, only the special ones get doc. only reason im one here today is for javier20B and work is slow...no renesis engines to swap. ...
as far as tuning do little math and you can have a starting map...your right its not easy...but its fun...
oh yeah not many failure from javier 20B...none in the 5 years ive known him
...as far as tuning do little math and you can have a starting map...your right its not easy...but its fun...
oh yeah not many failure from javier 20B...none in the 5 years ive known him
Okay expert, well then tell me what stand alone you would use on a daily driven street legal RX-8?
Why are you avoiding answering my questions? If you are a tuner you should be able to answer them easily.
01-31-2013, 10:54 AM
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Esmeril Racing - Microtech for Mazda RX-8
here is one its plug and play
here is one its plug and play
01-31-2013, 10:59 AM
#62
Esmeril Racing - Microtech for Mazda RX-8
here is one its plug and play
here is one its plug and play
The OP poped an apex seal because he wasn't finished his tuning with MM, he went WOT then blew his **** up.
That seal most likely damaged the turbo and the engine. This isn't a tuning issue this is operator error and will cost at least $6000 to fix.
MM is a very documented and accomplished tuner you are an idiot if you think that is not the case.
01-31-2013, 11:00 AM
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Esmeril Racing - Microtech for Mazda RX-8
here is one its plug and play
here is one its plug and play
, , , , , Yeah, go ahead and use that one, it works great. Thanks for proving my point.
01-31-2013, 11:10 AM
#69
"ON BOOSTED APPLICATIONS – IF YOU OBSERVE EQUIVALENCE RATIOS (AFR) ABOVE 12.0 AT MANIFOLD PRESSURES OVER 3 PSI OR HEAR AUDIBLE RATTLE OR KNOCK, IMMEDIATELY RELEASE THE GAS PEDAL AND DO NOT ATTEMPT ANOTHER WOT PASS"
The OP's post indicates that he went into WOT numerous times...could have been the tune or a number of other issues...
01-31-2013, 11:12 AM
#70
$3,000 for an engine rebuild, will need at least one new housing, rotor, etc. I'd say $3k is the minimum for not seeing the engine torn apart.
$1,xxx for a new turbo, unless you want to go cheap and get a new turbine off ebay then send it balanced. so the minimum would be $300
$300 ish for tuning? Not sure how much to value yourself.
$500 for unseen random crap.
I forgot to include shipping and other fees.... Not sure what they will be.
Also I am not sure what you are charging to remove and install all this crap for him.
If he gets out under $6,000 US I'll be surprised.
01-31-2013, 11:19 AM
#74
Why do you think there are only four or five competent Cobb tuners that have successfully tuned a turbo RX-8? If it was so easy every rotary tuner in the country would be doing it. Many have tried and failed miserably. What map will he start with to build off of? Not MM's map because it is locked. How will he create the VE table, etc., etc, etc.
