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Old 08-27-2009, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bse50
Really? You know i'm a 'tard when talking about FI
Impossible or hard fit? I can order Garret parts with huge discounts so i might give it a shot instead of going with the 3071...
Impossible without major modifications down there, it's so tight as it is, I can't explain
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The 3071 compressor housing goes between the exhaust runners on the manifold.
the '76 won't fit in that space.
You can't move the turbo up or out because it will contact the floor of the car.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The 3071 compressor housing goes between the exhaust runners on the manifold.
the '76 won't fit in that space.
You can't move the turbo up or out because it will contact the floor of the car.
I guess if you really wanted to, couldn't you machine the compact 2871 housing to fit the 76mm compressor? This is hypothetically speaking of course.
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Originally Posted by blackenedwings
I haven't hit more than 120 so far with the 3071R but it was pulling hard as hell still. It takes a lot of getting used to from stock but the car is literally perfect with a turbo imo. I love everything about it.
Me too man, me too
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Originally Posted by Frosty288
I guess if you really wanted to, couldn't you machine the compact 2871 housing to fit the 76mm compressor? This is hypothetically speaking of course.
If you have the money and the time, you can probably do anything.
That said, I already lose money on the upgrades and people think its too expensive...

I have spoken with Tony at UMS about this very thing and he thinks its possible. I'll probably do it on my own car at some point to get to that elusive 500 HP mark.
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That will be an interesting project Jeff. I have no money to finance this and test on my engine right now but i have 23liters of my own brew beer coming to support you!
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The elusive 500 hp make would be really cool to see and I'm sure isn't impossible to hit. Of course I'm still waiting for someone to prove they've hit the elusive 400 hp mark first. Describing what it "feels" like doesn't count.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
The elusive 500 hp make would be really cool to see and I'm sure isn't impossible to hit. Of course I'm still waiting for someone to prove they've hit the elusive 400 hp mark first. Describing what it "feels" like doesn't count.
Chris from Esmeril posted a 400+rwhp dyno almost a year ago
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Really? Cool. Is he the only person who has done it? The real question is, was it on pump gas?
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Jeff, if you hit 500hp you know I'll steal the keys to your car the next time you're in CA.
(even if just for a quick spin)
Old 08-27-2009, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Really? Cool. Is he the only person who has done it? The real question is, was it on pump gas?
If I remember correctly it was 414whp and 304 wtq at 16psi on 93 pump gas
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I remember similar numbers too, the dyno pull was not optimal though, i still prefer how the greddy-based upgrade performs.
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I thought you stopped offering the upgrades? I went your route cause i thought it was a great deal for both the machine work and the cost of a garrett 3071 plus the little bits that complete it all. Why I am so patient even though I nag every now and then for a status update

Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
If you have the money and the time, you can probably do anything.
That said, I already lose money on the upgrades and people think its too expensive...

I have spoken with Tony at UMS about this very thing and he thinks its possible. I'll probably do it on my own car at some point to get to that elusive 500 HP mark.
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The MM upgrade does take a while, but I've personally found it was worth it. Then again I had him out here in person for the initial tuning. The 3071R upgrade is definitely a good choice though, I don't think you will be unhappy.
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Originally Posted by bse50
I remember similar numbers too, the dyno pull was not optimal though, i still prefer how the greddy-based upgrade performs.
The boost controller wasn't setup properly on the dyno according to Chris, causing boost to spike the power to spike. They also stopped running at 7,000rpm so they could have made more power
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
If you have the money and the time, you can probably do anything.
That said, I already lose money on the upgrades and people think its too expensive...

I have spoken with Tony at UMS about this very thing and he thinks its possible. I'll probably do it on my own car at some point to get to that elusive 500 HP mark.
r u still offering this upgrade? well, if some people think it's expensive, i don't think so.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I'll probably do it on my own car at some point to get to that elusive 500 HP mark.
the 3076 wont make 500 and the 3071 wont make 400 .

Next question
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Originally Posted by chickenwafer
The boost controller wasn't setup properly on the dyno according to Chris, causing boost to spike the power to spike. They also stopped running at 7,000rpm so they could have made more power
Will tell you an italian saying "Con i "se" e con i "ma" la storia non si fa". Which roughly translates to: with "ifs" and "Buts" you don't make history".
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the 3076 wont make 500 and the 3071 wont make 400 .

Next question
dunno about the 500 on the x76 but the 71 can definitely go up to 400.
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Originally Posted by bse50
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dunno about the 500 on the x76 but the 71 can definitely go up to 400.
I don't believe that it will . Until MM posts some proof i think it is all hot air (very hot air ) .
The flow map for the 3071 does not support that assertion - not even close .
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I thought it did, by looking at that flowchart.
By the way you're talking about a stock 3071 turbine i believe. Sorry for the yoda talking but i'm a bit drunk
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500whp?
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It will make over 400 in a piston car but not a rotary .
MM should never have told me how to read a compressor map LOL
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Originally Posted by Brettus
It will make over 400 in a piston car but not a rotary .
Damnit! Really?
I better go ask my dyno operator for a refund, cuz he lied to me.
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better idea - just post it up .
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Oh well.... I'm still waiting to see dyno results from esmeril making "500hp"


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