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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary_Redliner
Brettus what is the name of the log viewer that you are using ? I would like to plot some graphs and post them.
as mr pimp says ... Virtual dyno is free . I used Mazdaedit though.

Word of warning .
To get meaningful back to back virtual dynos you need :

A straight , flat (bump free) , safe , 1km section of road .
No tail or headwind.
You need the IATs to be within a few degrees .
You need the EGTs at the beginning of the run to be within 20-30 degrees .
You need to know the weight - don't change it between runs.

Best gear to do it in is 3rd for a turbo car
2nd might work ok for an NA .

If any of those things are askew ..... trying to compare runs is a total waste of time and will lead you to draw erroneous conclusions.

Also : anything other than a smooth curve (similar to a real dyno) can pretty much be ignored as a dud run . Anomalies abound when using this software and it can be really hard to get decent logs.

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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 08:47 PM
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Just fitted a 'weapon R' intake .............................well .................... the maf tube off one .
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 10:29 PM
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is it larger than stock? if so did you measure and can you share the ID?
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 10:40 PM
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is it larger than stock? if so did you measure and can you share the ID?
That was my hope ................ but no . Interesting how it reads differently than my old one all the same . reading lower down low but much the same up top.

It's 84.2mm ID (edit)

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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Interesting how it reads differently than my old one all the same . reading lower down low but much the same up top.
possibly the difference the actual placement of the sensor inside the tube. possibly one sits further down than the other? Just throwing out ideas.


I'm just sitting here waiting on you to decide to up the maf and shoot for 20psi
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:13 PM
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possibly the difference the actual placement of the sensor inside the tube. possibly one sits further down than the other? Just throwing out ideas.


I'm just sitting here waiting on you to decide to up the maf and shoot for 20psi
haha ... you really want me to blow my sh*t up don't you !?

Was really hoping i would get enough headroom for safety in winter on my current setup - that's all. The weapon has a central tube within the maf . Looks like it might have an affect on how the maf reads.

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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:45 PM
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LMAO blow it up?!?!?! Never would wish that on anyone. I just wanna be the little devil on your shoulder telling you it's ok to push for a little more...
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 10:48 AM
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yeah that was a kimmick thing to create a more power feeling when put on an N/A

I made drawings of maf adapter piece, you could have a machine shop make it and weld it to any size diameter tube you want.

I did this for my first build, I happen to have a second one waiting for a 3.75 or 4in intake tube. I was also thinking that maybe I could designe a entire unit for a 3d printer to make it out of abs plastic......

a long time ago I had a thread about it, guageing interest, I was gonna have 10 made but I only had maybe 1 person interested
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tec...ousing-212910/

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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FazdaRX_8
yeah that was a kimmick thing to create a more power feeling when put on an N/A

I made drawings of maf adapter piece, you could have a machine shop make it and weld it to any size diameter tube you want.

I did this for my first build, I happen to have a second one waiting for a 3.75 or 4in intake tube. I was also thinking that maybe I could designe a entire unit for a 3d printer to make it out of abs plastic......

a long time ago I had a thread about it, guageing interest, I was gonna have 10 made but I only had maybe 1 person interested
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tec...ousing-212910/
I remember that ..... might get more interest these days .

Had a bad time yesterday with the setup after i cleaned the air filter . Went really rich.
Had me stumped for a while .
Till I disassembled the intake and found the tube that extends the intake (so the filter can sit outside the engine bay) , was on a slight angle to the maf tube . Hammered home to me how damn sensitive maf sensors are!

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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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LMAO blow it up?!?!?! Never would wish that on anyone. I just wanna be the little devil on your shoulder telling you it's ok to push for a little more...
already got one of those .... I need the other guy on the other shoulder telling me to take it easy .
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 07:37 PM
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So ..... I think I finally figured out why my spoolup is not as good as it should be ....

12blade turbine with a clip vs BNR 11 blade


Load Vs RPM for 3 differently setup Greddy turbos



My 12 blade clipped turbine (sorry about the crap pic.)


BNR 11 blade with clip

(borrowed pic from 9ks' thread)
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 08:28 PM
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Turbine blades look flat?
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 09:18 PM
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Turbine blades look flat?
Yeah ..... not only are there more blades and much more daylight through the clipped turbine , but the design looks inferior as well .

It obviously works great for the lighter 57trim wheeel but with the 60-1 wheel it seems the extra torque require to spin it up does not suit the turbine .
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 09:52 PM
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so are you going to get a precision turbo? I bet it blows all three of those out of the water
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FazdaRX_8
so are you going to get a precision turbo? I bet it blows all three of those out of the water
Already done that comparison
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 10:02 PM
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what precision will fir down there?

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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 10:03 PM
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fit*

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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by yomomspimp06
what precision will fir down there?

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A kit is available from a (banned) vendor that puts a 6266 down there ............
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 08:25 AM
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oh yea...I saw the sticker price and wrote it off. To take full advantage of that setup i feel like a larger maf is warranted. POWA!!!
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by yomomspimp06
oh yea...I saw the sticker price and wrote it off. To take full advantage of that setup i feel like a larger maf is warranted. POWA!!!
You would want a bigger maf to go past 350whp ....... but the maf would be the least of your worries .
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
but the maf would be the least of your worries .
...Care to elaborate? beyond the usual upgrades for boost i would assume meth and making sure you have solid fuel pressure would 2 other main areas for concern
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by yomomspimp06
...Care to elaborate? beyond the usual upgrades for boost i would assume meth and making sure you have solid fuel pressure would 2 other main areas for concern
Off the top of my head ....................

Fuel system
Injectors
Water Cooling system
Oil cooling
Coils
exhaust
Gearbox
Axles
Wheels and Tyres
Diff mounts
Engine mounts
Engine (dowels and apexs)
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 03:56 PM
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this is my first set up turbo..and that big turbo can fit down there, I believe that you can have some ideas what t ype of turbo you can put down there..the pic is just a reference for you guys
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 04:53 PM
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I'm still against fitting big turbos to the renesis ............... If you aren't going to go the whole hog and push for 400whp and do all the mods necessary to support that , a turbo "capable" of that is a really dumb choice. IMO


Mind you , the Precision setup i mentioned above might just change my views on that ..........

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