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Old 11-26-2008, 03:25 PM
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The cost would greatly depend on how much power you are trying to achieve.

20k would be the close figure. This is in Canadian funds. So like 15k.

This would get you a 400rwhp reliable RX8.

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A little off topic. But here is one of our pump fuel 20b cars.

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hi rick. u still around i see? what's up?

Hey man, what's up? Yes I still around. I'm considering picking up another RX-8 but looking at my options of what I would do if I did.
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Originally Posted by ForcefedRacing
The cost would greatly depend on how much power you are trying to achieve.

20k would be the close figure. This is in Canadian funds. So like 15k.

This would get you a 400rwhp reliable RX8.

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how reliable is the question?
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Originally Posted by cheeto
how reliable is the question?
I think there are plenty of happy +400whp FDs

You start to hear about things like AI at around 450-500.
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AI?

and daily driver reliable?

thats what im talking about.
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Originally Posted by cheeto
AI?

and daily driver reliable?

thats what im talking about.
AI, yeah, artificial intelligence. the cars start to become self aware at 400-500whp.
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Originally Posted by kersh4w
AI, yeah, artificial intelligence. the cars start to become self aware at 400-500whp.
haha
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Alcohol injection. Or water.

Yes, daily driveable reliable.
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oh, ok.
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Originally Posted by ForcefedRacing
The cost would greatly depend on how much power you are trying to achieve.

20k would be the close figure. This is in Canadian funds. So like 15k.

This would get you a 400rwhp reliable RX8.

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also, this is for the REW with new turbo, intercooler, tranny, and ECU(hoperully Apexi Power FC) installed?


i can also get a REW with 5 speed tranny for $1600

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Once again, we see the Renesis was a 'Great Leap Forward' in the same fashion as Mao's Great Leap Forward!

Why not keep the Renesis for the NA crowd & bring back the REW for big, reliable turbo power? Emissions-wise, I'd be willing to give up 10WHP for a more restrictive cat that filters out the nasties better...settle for 340WHP oh, & better gas mileage too.

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Renesis is a better engine. We just have some much compression/headroom to work with at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
Renesis is a better engine. We just have some much compression/headroom to work with at the moment.
Renesis is different.........better is going to depend on what you are doing.....so far it sure isn't better boosted than the earlier engines....time will tell if we can get past the exhaust port problems in boosted engines.

NA...there is no doubt that the Renesis is better in almost all respects....
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Originally Posted by dannobre
Renesis is different.........better is going to depend on what you are doing.....so far it sure isn't better boosted than the earlier engines....time will tell if we can get past the exhaust port problems in boosted engines.

NA...there is no doubt that the Renesis is better in almost all respects....
Agreed. I think the Renesis has a few unique characteristics - such as lack of overlap that could be exploited. Right now for FI, yeah the REW is a better solution. I'm not so sure that will always be the case.
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
Agreed. I think the Renesis has a few unique characteristics - such as lack of overlap that could be exploited. Right now for FI, yeah the REW is a better solution. I'm not so sure that will always be the case.
So True. The Renesis is a step meant to be forward, but going against turbos is against everything rotary's excel at. Rotary engines are much more durable with boost compared to piston designs. RX series sports cars have always had turbo, and with all the modern advances to produce reliable, powerful turbos on a car its a serious tragedy to see the 8 without.
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Originally Posted by cheeto
also, this is for the REW with new turbo, intercooler, tranny, and ECU(hoperully Apexi Power FC) installed?


i can also get a REW with 5 speed tranny for $1600
He is using an intercepter-X, not a Power FC, hence the retention of the stock throttlebody and all the stuff that runs on the CAN system.

and whatever REW you get for $1600 has a good chance of being a j-spec on its last legs. If you care about reliability, j-spec engines need to be disassembled, spec'd out, and rebuilt with new seals at least (housings are usually in good shape). And if you use the stock FD tranny you will have to mount it and figure out what to do with the shifter. I'm telling you, $15k can be on the low side...
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Assuming that the FD 5 speed trans will not match up with the shifter location, are you still running the RX8 trans? If so how well will it hold up to the new motor/power.
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Originally Posted by arghx7
He is using an intercepter-X, not a Power FC, hence the retention of the stock throttlebody and all the stuff that runs on the CAN system.

and whatever REW you get for $1600 has a good chance of being a j-spec on its last legs. If you care about reliability, j-spec engines need to be disassembled, spec'd out, and rebuilt with new seals at least (housings are usually in good shape). And if you use the stock FD tranny you will have to mount it and figure out what to do with the shifter. I'm telling you, $15k can be on the low side...
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Assuming that the FD 5 speed trans will not match up with the shifter location, are you still running the RX8 trans? If so how well will it hold up to the new motor/power.
the 5spd tranny from FD will be a simple conversion... if you dont care about maybe half an inch off with the shifter location, or you could just make a custom driveshaft and move it back and forth whichever direction (350 for custom driveshaft, 300 for decent trans). The FD tranny will handle the power a lot better and obviously its made for the motor. i think the only trouble is the clutch line and slave cylinder locations...

They are not using an intercepter-x as the EMS, thats what USED to be on the car. now its a microtech lt-10 unit with some modified wiring BUT with all stock 8 harness.

1600 for a blown motor is not a good deal. you can get RE blocks that are blown but have all the accessories you need for like 1200-1400.

I have about 800 in all my motor work so far. I bought a shortblock for 350 and sold two rotors, two housings, and center iron for about 600 bucks, and the other longblock (stuck seals) for 800 shipped. SO i really have only 550 in a decent block and about 250 in some rebuild parts (side seals and whatnot) after i get my cryo apex seals (found a new set for 150.00) and do my port work ( on my own) then i will have about 1000 in the entire rebuild.
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Originally Posted by G3tR3DDY2GR3DDY
the 5spd tranny from FD will be a simple conversion... if you dont care about maybe half an inch off with the shifter location, or you could just make a custom driveshaft and move it back and forth whichever direction (350 for custom driveshaft, 300 for decent trans). The FD tranny will handle the power a lot better and obviously its made for the motor. i think the only trouble is the clutch line and slave cylinder locations...

They are not using an intercepter-x as the EMS, thats what USED to be on the car. now its a microtech lt-10 unit with some modified wiring BUT with all stock 8 harness.

1600 for a blown motor is not a good deal. you can get RE blocks that are blown but have all the accessories you need for like 1200-1400.

I have about 800 in all my motor work so far. I bought a shortblock for 350 and sold two rotors, two housings, and center iron for about 600 bucks, and the other longblock (stuck seals) for 800 shipped. SO i really have only 550 in a decent block and about 250 in some rebuild parts (side seals and whatnot) after i get my cryo apex seals (found a new set for 150.00) and do my port work ( on my own) then i will have about 1000 in the entire rebuild.

its not a blown motor
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point is youre gonna want/need to rebuild it anyways. Might as well buy one as a core... two of them. Still be cheaper and have extra parts. read my situation above^
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still waiting on someone to do an Ls1 in one of these, awesome work on the swap man, is this similar to what they did with the JIC Rx-8? I know they used an older 13b and were pushing 500hp or something I think.
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im sure its been done.

if my engine ever blows, i'll probably consider it pretty heavily.
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I am not seeing how you guys can get 15K for a swap. I think its much much lower. I have been looking into this for quite some time. you can buy a used rebuilt ported rew on the RX7 boards for lets say 3500. buy a blown long block for all the parts and wiring you need to complete the motor ( around 750) . Go with the Power FC for the engine management. and throw in another grand for the fuel upgrades and you will have a working REW in the car for somewhere around 6 or 7k after you figure in Misc parts you will need to buy that come along during the swap. Granted its not a high horse car but you can add and swap parts from here on out just like modding any other car. If you do the work yourself fabbing the motor mounts and do not have to do any crazy rewiring to keep the stock drive by wire and all that. It should be a much easier and cheaper swap.
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yes this is true. My swap price is much closer to that but thats because im rebuilding my own motor, i will have a streetported rebuilt longblock for about 1200 with all the parts i need to swap.

Im not sure the power FC will work with the rx8 wiring, the guys here have used a microtech lt10 to use the stock wiring and drive by wire, which is about 1100 from what he told me for the EMS and wiring changes from him. Small price to pay for ease of installation.

The use of this system ^ may be more than a power fc but will save you SO many costs on wiring, ignition, fixing abs/power function...


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