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Old 03-06-2008, 10:26 PM
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Jeff,

What's the deal with the AP maps for people with non standard fuel injector setups?

You have a bunch of maps setup for every possible combo? Seems like a lot of work to even cover the basics.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
It was 128 ft/lbs and 184 HP. I have another that did 240 HP or so, but I will test with him at a later date.
That 184whp seems a little low O_o what were the before results?
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Originally Posted by Daemos
That 184whp seems a little low O_o what were the before results?
It's not breathing well on the top end; not sure if it's in, out, both, or bad rotor seals
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Are you kidding me, Jason? All that is Jeff at his finest. He is the quintessential "tweaker" and a sesquipedalianist, to boot.
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MM,

1).Have you done any testing with the RB intake? If so, does it wreak the same havoc on MAF calibrations as other intakes?

2).Can you also confirm that in all your maps the post-cat O2 CEL is disabled?

3).Am I correct in understanding that "end-users" can adjust their own OMP rates and idle speed from the AP without tuner software?

I am running the REV-I with Duct and the REV8 Catback on my 05. I have been waiting to see how the AP will pan out. I would like to ditch the OEM cat for Mazsports midpipe and an AP catless tune in the hopes of +20rwhp. Do you feel this is attainable?
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Bad decision # 1, staying up to read this entire thread when I'm supposed to be at work in 7 hours.

Bad decision # 2, my landlord has waited this long, he can wait a while longer, right. Hmmmm, maybe not. Itching to buy, though.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
It was 128 ft/lbs and 184 HP. I have another that did 240 HP or so, but I will test with him at a later date.
I'm not sure if Jeff was specific that the dyno pull he posted was without the accessport tuning. That is a pull using the stock flash.

Engine mods for that include K&N Typhoon II, B&B mid-pipe, Espeler Cat-back Exhaust, AP under drive pulley and lightweight alternator and water pump pulleys.

The car is on it's origional motor with 46,000 miles. Had a compression test at 41,000 with the following results:
Rotor #1: Test 1: 8.9, 9.3, 8.7 @ 296
Rotor #2: Test 1: 9.4, 9.1, 9.3 @ 291

Jeff has been working on a N/A flash which we'll be able to dyno the car with tomorrow and hopefully have some promising results to post.

Edit: Scratch that, the dyno time fell through! Next week then?

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Originally Posted by \\Konig\\
arent those numbers just about what huzer got, and his car is all stock WITH a cat?? that seems odd.
Originally Posted by Daemos
That 184whp seems a little low O_o what were the before results?
Thos ARE the before results.
We havn't installed the AP on that car yet.

You guys need to read!

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Still need your address to send a check.
Didn't you get my last e-mail? I need info from you.

Originally Posted by mysql
Jeff,

What's the deal with the AP maps for people with non standard fuel injector setups?

You have a bunch of maps setup for every possible combo? Seems like a lot of work to even cover the basics.
Not every combo, just the three or four that I know are out there.

Originally Posted by kennyfrc1

1).Have you done any testing with the RB intake? If so, does it wreak the same havoc on MAF calibrations as other intakes?
Yes. Yes.

Originally Posted by kennyfrc1
2).Can you also confirm that in all your maps the post-cat O2 CEL is disabled?
Yes.

Originally Posted by kennyfrc1
3).Am I correct in understanding that "end-users" can adjust their own OMP rates and idle speed from the AP without tuner software?
No.

Originally Posted by kennyfrc1
I am running the REV-I with Duct and the REV8 Catback on my 05. I have been waiting to see how the AP will pan out. I would like to ditch the OEM cat for Mazsports midpipe and an AP catless tune in the hopes of +20rwhp. Do you feel this is attainable?
Yes.
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Originally Posted by Flashwing

The car is on it's origional motor with 46,000 miles. Had a compression test at 41,000 with the following results:
Rotor #1: Test 1: 8.9, 9.3, 8.7 @ 296
Rotor #2: Test 1: 9.4, 9.1, 9.3 @ 291
Is this measurement i.e. 8.9, 8.3 in psi or kpa?
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Originally Posted by rotaryPilot
Is this measurement i.e. 8.9, 8.3 in psi or kpa?
Those are KPA...
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What are the revised fan turn on temps with the AP?
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Originally Posted by rotaryPilot
Is this measurement i.e. 8.9, 8.3 in psi or kpa?
None of the above.
Its kilograms per square centimeter.

8.9, 9.3, 8.7 kg/cm^2 is 872, 912, 853 kpa or 126, 132, 123 psi.
9.4, 9.1, 9.3 kg/cm^2 is 921, 892, 912 kpa or 133, 129, 132 psi.

He's got one apex seal on the front rotor that is under spec, but its not terrible at all.

Originally Posted by kennyfrc1
What are the revised fan turn on temps with the AP?
They can be whatever you want them to be.

The maps I'm shipping have the first turn-on point at 190°F and the second at 205°F. OE is 207°F and 214°F.
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are we almost there yet?
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are we almost there yet?
Still waiting.
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When do you sleep, or even find time to work on all of this. You seem to be able to respond to everyone's questions in details, extremely fast. Its like there are 3 of your running around.....hmmmm.
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Originally Posted by Moostafa29
When do you sleep, or even find time to work on all of this. You seem to be able to respond to everyone's questions in details, extremely fast. Its like there are 3 of your running around.....hmmmm.
Not three physical personalities anyway...heh
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Originally Posted by eviltwinkie
Not three physical personalities anyway...heh
Me, myself and I. Just ask Jung.

Originally Posted by Moostafa29
When do you sleep, or even find time to work on all of this. You seem to be able to respond to everyone's questions in details, extremely fast. Its like there are 3 of your running around.....hmmmm.
I don't sleep. I'll sleep when I'm dead.
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It's time to grab the torches and pitchforks
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Uh oh! Am I going to be chased up into the house on the hill?
SOOOPERDOOOPER!
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only if you're the one responsible for not shipping the APs
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Originally Posted by mysql
It's time to grab the torches and pitchforks
Not until I have my AP and my car is running well. Then you can hold your Arizona witch trials or whatever. Untill then, leave Jeff alone.
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No need for a trial. If he was a witch, we'd use ducking to verify.
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Originally Posted by mysql
It's time to grab the torches and pitchforks
wait...you mean you dont always carry them around?
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No need for a trial. If he was a witch, we'd use ducking to verify.
Is that where you have the duck quack a confession outta him?


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