Reactionary

Can RB do it better than Richard? I guess if Richard can't crack the ECU, then it doesn't matter, does it?

rotarygod

RB isn't developing their own unit.

zoom44

its called sharing resources people not competition

Magic8

^^^ Like I said before, business isn't always a zero-sum game. You can have more than one winner.

twospoons_

I kinda figured your guys were playing with RB..

Reactionary

So you guys are saying that Richard and RB are collaborating on the axial-flow supercharger? Can those RB guys put up with Richard's personality? LOL. Just kidding, Richard.

rotarygod

Sorry Richard! It's Jim's fault the word is out. Not ours!!!

Actually RB isn't even developing it with him so don't think they are. He has just rented engine dyno time from them. That's it. Everything is being developed and built by him.

Reactionary

Yeah sure ok uh huh

twospoons_

Hmm.. did they test twin-screw?

twospoons_

I'm just amazed that he can actually build this thing and get it working.

SilverBullitt

My love is for my 8 and Racing Beat... Keep the good work guy's. We really appreciate what your doing for us. I rather wait months to get a good quality product... i learned my lesson when i purchase/returned the K&N intake... and i promise myself that i would buy ONLY Racing Beat Products for my baby 8.

Let me know what you think guy's


RB: Catback - Full Suspension Kit - AC Condenser & Oil Cooler Protective screen.
RB to come: Intake ANY UPDATE? :-) - Aluminium Flywheel - Body Kit and whatever
RB comes with, I'll buy :-).

FAN FROM CANADA Montreal... planning to visit you guy's one day in Anahein.

Simon (SilverBullitt)

rotarygod

He isn't just building this in a garage somewhere. It is part of what his company does. When you have the design knowledge that he does as well as the machining facilities, it isn't so hard to believe.

Broke_Apex_Seal

I want to clear up one thing. I think Racing Beat products are quality and well researched but I like the other side of the spectrum. Taking it to the next level like Greddy/HKS/Blitz and so on. I have purchased many parts from Racing Beat and was very happy with them and any vendor that sponsors this forum is AWESOME!

I am an extremist not too conservative.
Regards
-Ryan Harsha

Reactionary

Wow, that was quite a backpedal. Anyway, so you're more of a cocaine/meth guy instead of a pot guy is what you're saying.

Red Devil

Nothing wrong with liking more radical performance options Broke...didn't you work at PFS?

I think it's promising to see the Axial Flow listed by RB, because it gave us a glimpse that Richard is in fact progressing steadily towards a finished product.

Broke_Apex_Seal

I dont think it is a backpedal at all. People mis-understand me ALL the time. I come across as a dick but I am a nice guy.


And yes I did/do work at PFS.

dmp

John Kerry would be proud!

bureau13

Oh are you speaking of the so-called "audiophiles" who will spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on silver core speaker cables but who then turn around and absolutely refuse to submit to a blind A/B test with lamp cord based on some imaginary reason that such a test isn't valid? Yeah, those people are idiots :D
At any rate, that comment is not relevant. In the world of recorded audio, the measure of quality is how closely the recorded sound matches the original source. That's just not relevant to comments about one's preference for a particular exhaust sound.

Please show me someone who has given a positive review of the sound of ANY exhaust without actually hearing it. That would be silly. Obviously these positive reviews are based on the fact that THEY LIKE THE SOUND. Doesn't mean you will, just that they do.

jds

Reactionary

Bureau,

I also mentioned CD "performance." By what standard and reference point would you judge one CD of Bach's double violin concertos better than another performance? Same with car design, beer, wine, and yes, soy sauce. I once read an article on soy sauces and apparently there are so many nuances that soy sauce is like an art like wine.

So some of the folks who laud the Racing Beat exhaust, what are their reference points? That's an issue for me. Also, how many of them just convinced themselves it sounded great not so much because they can meticulously break down the sound and compare it to other exhausts but because it's Racing Beat and a bunch of other people like it? Do these people really like the sound?

I've listened to the exhaust clips, which is ridiculous. Not only can you not make a judgement based on sound clips but many of them have a K&N intake on. So I go to a meet once and there's like two guys with exhausts. One guy had Racing Beat and the other guy I don't know because I never found out who owned the damn car because I stood there like a jackass. The guy with the RB was nice and offered show the sound, sitting in the car and doing some pedal pushes. Um, ok great. I need to drive that car around town but of course I'm not going to ask him for that. So much for that. In the least, I need to hear all the exhausts side-by-side if I'm not going to get to drive each car. So that's the extent of my exhaust "assessment."

KWS

I'm new to the rotary world but for my 2 cents I have found that Racing Beat has tremendous customer support. They answer emails and pick up the phone. Their documentation is top drawer.

Reactionary

Well folks, looks like that does it for me. Racing Beat it is then.

Just kidding. However, the superior documentation might just be the deciding factor. Just kidding again.

bureau13

Its still subjective, although granted the local high school band version is pretty much guaranteed to be inferior to a good professional orchestra. I really think you're over-analyzing this, but that's just me. You're right about the clips though, you really can't tell anything from those. I hadn't heard too many exhausts in person myself when I made my choice, although I had heard the RB. My main concern was that (a) I like the sound, and I did, and (b) it not drone in the cabin at cruise. I had to base that off of the reviews of others, but I don't consider that to be following hype, just a realistic approach to informed buying.

jds

Gomez

Is there some agenda behind the start of this thread? Reactionary, I don't suppose you work for the competition....? Seems like you joined the forum, stepped up to the plate, and had a go at hitting a major league pitcher out of the park.

zoom44

37 posts in 2 days. 2 threads started. both threads seeming to be about elisiting "reactionary" posts from people.... other thread - https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/what-up-all-parallelogram-across-two-planes-taillights-out-there-51625/

Reactionary

Nope, I have nothing to do with the industry and I've never even modded a car I've owned. I'm just asking questions finally instead of taking things for granted. No ulterior motive at all.