What are the reasons that Racing Beat is so respected?
02-03-2005, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
I would have thought that after 7 pages of responses that it should be clear right now how and why everyone feels the way they do about Racing Beat whether it be good or not. Changing the question about something they do isn't going to change the way people feel about them. This thread was answered long ago and should have run out of gas at the same time.
02-04-2005, 12:28 AM
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Someone else will have to go in to bat for RB products, as I said I don't have any.
I don't suppose you could reasonably expect the members of the RX-8 forum to give a toss about the Eclipse, Mustang etc!!!! If members here criticise those cars it can hardly be taken seriously. Making the assumption those criticising haven't owned one (they are RX-8 owners after all) their criticism is based on personal opinion. The 350Z is ugly, etc (which is true, BTW.) The reason there was vigorous debate around your posts and not theirs, is that while your "critical questions" stuck it up a company, their products, their personnel and their reputation, those guys are only bagging a product. Hard to defend if you've had no personal experience with RB products or the company (since you've never modified a car).
Gomez.
I don't suppose you could reasonably expect the members of the RX-8 forum to give a toss about the Eclipse, Mustang etc!!!! If members here criticise those cars it can hardly be taken seriously. Making the assumption those criticising haven't owned one (they are RX-8 owners after all) their criticism is based on personal opinion. The 350Z is ugly, etc (which is true, BTW.) The reason there was vigorous debate around your posts and not theirs, is that while your "critical questions" stuck it up a company, their products, their personnel and their reputation, those guys are only bagging a product. Hard to defend if you've had no personal experience with RB products or the company (since you've never modified a car).
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02-04-2005, 02:08 AM
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Easy to defend because I didn't bag personnel as I explained above. In fact, I didn't even diss their product. I brought up things that people, not just me, have asked and thought about. I want a proper evaluation of the products independently of other factors. In the car debates, it's directly attacking specific cars, which is actually just fine. What I'm saying is I didn't even do that here, but if I did, what's the big deal considering you all accept that behavior in the car debates? But again, I didn't even do that. Therefore, I conclude as I did in the previous post that something else is at work here. Something deeply emotional that involves the urge to defend a company's honor whether or not it's actually being attacked. One hypothesis might be the ol' "we versus they" phenomenon.
02-04-2005, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Reactionary
You mention you didn't open your mouth then but yet you open your mouth here. Could it be because of the difference in the "numbers situation"? You mention you were outnumbered in London. Could it be that I'm outnumbered here? I definitely agree with you, especially in my situation here, that isolated consensus doesn't equate to validity. World history knows it happens as "group think" has led to the Holocaust and other atrocities.
Murix, please don't make this a "mano a mano" thing, as I strongly suspect you're making it a personal battle of wits/intelligence/wisdom rather than staying focused only on what I have said.
Murix, please don't make this a "mano a mano" thing, as I strongly suspect you're making it a personal battle of wits/intelligence/wisdom rather than staying focused only on what I have said.
I made a statement from the top of my head. Try not to read into it.
General comment that you just like to discuss a lot for the sake of discussion. This really was a dead thread a long time ago.
Cheers.
02-04-2005, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by murix
You really do have some strange perceptions. I think you are taking this way too serious.
I made a statement from the top of my head. Try not to read into it.
General comment that you just like to discuss a lot for the sake of discussion. This really was a dead thread a long time ago.
Cheers.
I made a statement from the top of my head. Try not to read into it.
General comment that you just like to discuss a lot for the sake of discussion. This really was a dead thread a long time ago.
Cheers.
This post of yours here is actually a combination of a backpedal combined with a reverse psychology maneuver. Right? Maybe you could practice your own suggestion? Seriously. Really.
Your behavior reminds me of a part in the Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas where Gertrude Stein is speaking in front of a Harvard or Oxfor or Cambridge (damn I forgot) audience where 2 people are repeatedly jumping up to make comments to skewer Stein. At a certain moment, one of the two jumps up and asks Stein how it is possible for two things to be the same yet different. Without hesitation, Stein remarks that it is the same as the questioner and the other fellow, that both continue to bob up and down yet certainly neither would say they are the same as each other.
Zingers are zingers. What can I do about it? Maybe if you didn't get personal, then I wouldn't have to type a zinger. Really, let's end the personal stuff.
02-04-2005, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Reactionary
Easy to defend because I didn't bag personnel as I explained above.
Gomez. (Over and Out....)
02-04-2005, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Reactionary
I'm strange but you're not? Now that's strange. Should you reread your posts? I mean you made some plain weird comments, including one about me being intelligent like a young boy growing up. Your comments are simply not from the top of your head. Anyone here, whether they are a supporter of Racing Beat or not, can plainly tell that your posts come from your ego. Your posts, including this one, inarguably are personal attacks on my personaliy, my intelligence/wisdom, and my character.
This post of yours here is actually a combination of a backpedal combined with a reverse psychology maneuver. Right? Maybe you could practice your own suggestion? Seriously. Really.
Your behavior reminds me of a part in the Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas where Gertrude Stein is speaking in front of a Harvard or Oxfor or Cambridge (damn I forgot) audience where 2 people are repeatedly jumping up to make comments to skewer Stein. At a certain moment, one of the two jumps up and asks Stein how it is possible for two things to be the same yet different. Without hesitation, Stein remarks that it is the same as the questioner and the other fellow, that both continue to bob up and down yet certainly neither would say they are the same as each other.
Zingers are zingers. What can I do about it? Maybe if you didn't get personal, then I wouldn't have to type a zinger. Really, let's end the personal stuff.
This post of yours here is actually a combination of a backpedal combined with a reverse psychology maneuver. Right? Maybe you could practice your own suggestion? Seriously. Really.
Your behavior reminds me of a part in the Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas where Gertrude Stein is speaking in front of a Harvard or Oxfor or Cambridge (damn I forgot) audience where 2 people are repeatedly jumping up to make comments to skewer Stein. At a certain moment, one of the two jumps up and asks Stein how it is possible for two things to be the same yet different. Without hesitation, Stein remarks that it is the same as the questioner and the other fellow, that both continue to bob up and down yet certainly neither would say they are the same as each other.
Zingers are zingers. What can I do about it? Maybe if you didn't get personal, then I wouldn't have to type a zinger. Really, let's end the personal stuff.
You talk a lot.
02-04-2005, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Reactionary
The statement on the website is like he's the Iron Chef.
ok you have now officially REALLY stepped in it. DO NOT DISRESPECT THE IRON CHEFS BOY! the have knives and are very good with them.- :D now if you want to dis bobby flay than im your man
02-04-2005, 11:07 AM
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Isn't it amazing that we all complain about misleading gains being cited and dishonest business practices on part of some aftermarket companies but one of the most honest and trustworthy companies is the one generating all the controversy?
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02-04-2005, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Isn't it amazing that we all complain about misleading gains being cited and dishonest business practices on part of some aftermarket companies but one of the most honest and trustworthy companies is the one generating all the controversy?
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02-04-2005, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
ok you have now officially REALLY stepped in it. DO NOT DISRESPECT THE IRON CHEFS BOY! the have knives and are very good with them.- :D now if you want to dis bobby flay than im your man
02-09-2005, 06:53 PM
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My $.02...read their website. www.racingbeat.com If that didn't answer all your questions/concerns about the company then read the website again...slowly. If you still don't trust them or like them then close your browser and you don't ever have to go there again.
02-10-2005, 06:55 PM
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I've tried to avoid posting on this subject because I think that it's worn out its usefulness, but I had an itch that I just had to scratch.
Reactionary....you come across as an intellectual, or as I perceive you.....more of a pseudo-intellectual trying to pose philosophical questions so that members of this forum can be impressed by your quest for critical analysis and information.
Is my perception correct?....I don't know because I don't claim to know you. You seem to have the perception that everyone has a vested interest in Racing Beat or is eager to jump on the bandwagon and kiss their ***.
It's really not that complicated or philosophical (i.e. if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around does it make any noise?)
I work in the healthcare industry (specifically the dialysis industry). We use 100's of products manufactured by different companies on our patients. Although our choice of products is based on different factors, I can tell you that we only use products that are safe and reliable and give us the outcome that we are expecting every time.
My point being that people support Racing Beat because they have used their products and are satisfied with the results. That would be like me asking a physician...why do you use brand A catheter over brand B catheter? They would turn around and say because I've gotten good results with catheter A. Does that mean that catheter A is necessarily better than catheter B......no, just that that particular physician has had good success with catheter A and is going to trust it when it comes to the life of his/her patient.
People make choices on products and then are either satisfied or not satisfied. You use the products that satisfy you and disregard the others.
Why do we have to make a "Consumer Reports detailed critical side by side indepth product analysis" every time we buy a modification part for our car? Not saying that you can't or shouldn't, but it always comes down to actually making a choice and seeing if you are going to be satisfied with that choice. If you are satisfied, you keep buying the product, if not you buy something else.
It's that simple.......no philosophy 101 needed here
Reactionary....you come across as an intellectual, or as I perceive you.....more of a pseudo-intellectual trying to pose philosophical questions so that members of this forum can be impressed by your quest for critical analysis and information.
Is my perception correct?....I don't know because I don't claim to know you. You seem to have the perception that everyone has a vested interest in Racing Beat or is eager to jump on the bandwagon and kiss their ***.
It's really not that complicated or philosophical (i.e. if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around does it make any noise?)
I work in the healthcare industry (specifically the dialysis industry). We use 100's of products manufactured by different companies on our patients. Although our choice of products is based on different factors, I can tell you that we only use products that are safe and reliable and give us the outcome that we are expecting every time.
My point being that people support Racing Beat because they have used their products and are satisfied with the results. That would be like me asking a physician...why do you use brand A catheter over brand B catheter? They would turn around and say because I've gotten good results with catheter A. Does that mean that catheter A is necessarily better than catheter B......no, just that that particular physician has had good success with catheter A and is going to trust it when it comes to the life of his/her patient.
People make choices on products and then are either satisfied or not satisfied. You use the products that satisfy you and disregard the others.
Why do we have to make a "Consumer Reports detailed critical side by side indepth product analysis" every time we buy a modification part for our car? Not saying that you can't or shouldn't, but it always comes down to actually making a choice and seeing if you are going to be satisfied with that choice. If you are satisfied, you keep buying the product, if not you buy something else.
It's that simple.......no philosophy 101 needed here
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02-10-2005, 10:20 PM
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I havn't ordered anything from RB, but I hear their service is really good and their products are as well. I know the cat-back for the RX-8 sure sounds better than any other aftermarket, even though they weight 4-5 pounds heavier than stock. I went with the Greddy system though just because I plan on getting the Greddy Tubo when I have the cash. If not, I sure as hell would have gotten a Racing Beat cat-back.