I just dynoed 240 rear wheel HP! Bye,Bye, 14.3 seconds
08-23-2004, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mpt_yellowRX8
Yeah Xyntax, wasn't your car the one on tuner transformation? Did you get it dynoed or did you pull it all out before you had the chance to see what it could do?
Oh no no no, that wasn't mine. It was someone else who lurks around this board but rarely posts. Look it up, I forgot his screenname.
08-23-2004, 03:19 PM
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as 8 owners we all should be used to this type of suspense and waiting
just to name a few
1. ssr/speed force turbo project
2. turbo or SC from factory mazda
3. axial flow SC from Richard Paul (very interested about this)
4. sunflower mazda
the list goes on...........
just to name a few
1. ssr/speed force turbo project
2. turbo or SC from factory mazda
3. axial flow SC from Richard Paul (very interested about this)
4. sunflower mazda
the list goes on...........
08-23-2004, 03:39 PM
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Go Texas Longhorns!
Assuming this graph is real, I figured Nitrous would still give you a better mid range than that, I guess it depends when you use it. with little to no improvement in the low/mid range, I guess FI is out as well. So then it would have to be the ECU, or the ability to rev beyond 9K.
my back fo the envelope calcs say that at 9800RPM, 128lb TQ would get you to 239WHP.....just food for thought.
I always wanted a 10K RPM car....but I'm pretty skeptical like most others, I have to be I'm in banking.
my back fo the envelope calcs say that at 9800RPM, 128lb TQ would get you to 239WHP.....just food for thought.
I always wanted a 10K RPM car....but I'm pretty skeptical like most others, I have to be I'm in banking.
08-23-2004, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by brillo
Assuming this graph is real, I figured Nitrous would still give you a better mid range than that, I guess it depends when you use it. with little to no improvement in the low/mid range, I guess FI is out as well. So then it would have to be the ECU, or the ability to rev beyond 9K.
my back fo the envelope calcs say that at 9800RPM, 128lb TQ would get you to 239WHP.....just food for thought.
I always wanted a 10K RPM car....but I'm pretty skeptical like most others, I have to be I'm in banking.
my back fo the envelope calcs say that at 9800RPM, 128lb TQ would get you to 239WHP.....just food for thought.
I always wanted a 10K RPM car....but I'm pretty skeptical like most others, I have to be I'm in banking.
08-23-2004, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8-TX
It looks to me like spraying around 6K rpm..don't you think?
08-23-2004, 04:17 PM
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I'm confused at this problem of hooking up - comparing your dyno to my 196 rwhp run its pretty much the same until the big jump at the very end... bottom end really isn't effected at all
i'm not sure why this mod would make it harder to launch unless you were doing 9000 rpm clutch dumps or maybe you just overheated the tires with the burnouts (some street tires get greasy when hot - not sure what the RE40's do)
i'm not sure why this mod would make it harder to launch unless you were doing 9000 rpm clutch dumps or maybe you just overheated the tires with the burnouts (some street tires get greasy when hot - not sure what the RE40's do)
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Judge Ito,
I really look forward to learning what you modified on your car to get these results. I have a ton of respect for you and your knowlege of rotaries from your posts here and on other Rotary forums. My Father owns a heavily modified RX-2 and posts as "MrMasda" on the RX-7 forum, and when I told him you had an RX-8 project, he lit up. I believe it's your RX-3 that he's always raving about.
*(Everyone who is giving this guy **** needs to realize that he backs up his talk with results. Check out his other cars.)*
Please ignore the younger members here that want instant results, such as Turbo kits for a 6 month old car. The difference between here and the Miata forum or RX-7 forum is amazing....
It's a complex car, people, and I don't think any of you out there are willing to risk blowing a motor.
Keep up the good work, Ito. Long time Rotary owners such as myself look forward to finding the power my GSL-SE had to go along with the looks and handling of this RX-8.
I really look forward to learning what you modified on your car to get these results. I have a ton of respect for you and your knowlege of rotaries from your posts here and on other Rotary forums. My Father owns a heavily modified RX-2 and posts as "MrMasda" on the RX-7 forum, and when I told him you had an RX-8 project, he lit up. I believe it's your RX-3 that he's always raving about.
*(Everyone who is giving this guy **** needs to realize that he backs up his talk with results. Check out his other cars.)*
Please ignore the younger members here that want instant results, such as Turbo kits for a 6 month old car. The difference between here and the Miata forum or RX-7 forum is amazing....
It's a complex car, people, and I don't think any of you out there are willing to risk blowing a motor.Keep up the good work, Ito. Long time Rotary owners such as myself look forward to finding the power my GSL-SE had to go along with the looks and handling of this RX-8.
08-23-2004, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by brillo
Assuming this graph is real, I figured Nitrous would still give you a better mid range than that, I guess it depends when you use it. with little to no improvement in the low/mid range, I guess FI is out as well. So then it would have to be the ECU, or the ability to rev beyond 9K.
my back fo the envelope calcs say that at 9800RPM, 128lb TQ would get you to 239WHP.....just food for thought.
I always wanted a 10K RPM car....but I'm pretty skeptical like most others, I have to be I'm in banking.
my back fo the envelope calcs say that at 9800RPM, 128lb TQ would get you to 239WHP.....just food for thought.
I always wanted a 10K RPM car....but I'm pretty skeptical like most others, I have to be I'm in banking.
08-23-2004, 04:47 PM
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This thread is a load of poop.
As soon as you stated:
And then followed up with :
you lost any kind of credibility, regardless of how truthful you may be.
That was just stupid.
Additionally, the dyno plot is as useless as the drag pics. Please post something that can actually be read with some context.
If spin without hop is your traction issue, you have some weird tire/surface problem and/or your dyno plot is lying.
As soon as you stated:
Originally Posted by Judge Ito
(The Rx8 is still bone stock...
Originally Posted by Judge Ito
car looks and is in bone stock form but a modification has been made..
That was just stupid.
Additionally, the dyno plot is as useless as the drag pics. Please post something that can actually be read with some context.
If spin without hop is your traction issue, you have some weird tire/surface problem and/or your dyno plot is lying.
08-23-2004, 04:54 PM
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if your not 1st your last
mothers performance is where all local rotor heads in the area dyno there car.so cut the b.s crap about fake dyno sheet.
guys you really should chill
ito is not a kid, he's a grown man. i believe he did hit that dyno # and he may exceed that.
give the man a chance
go read a rx tuner magazine.chill out.
hey for what it matters i believe him and keep the secret ito if its one thing i know
mazda doesnt like your previous approach at your car.and they read this forum.
and old friend kelly
guys you really should chill
ito is not a kid, he's a grown man. i believe he did hit that dyno # and he may exceed that.
give the man a chance
go read a rx tuner magazine.chill out.
hey for what it matters i believe him and keep the secret ito if its one thing i know
mazda doesnt like your previous approach at your car.and they read this forum.
and old friend kelly
08-23-2004, 05:13 PM
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Hmmmm. Ito says he isn't trying to sell anything, and has reasons to withhold informtion.
Fine.
He also says he is just trying to demonstrate the potential of the Renesis. So, let's assume he is spraying nitrous, and is pulling 240 RWHP. That's a 33% increase over stock. There are those on this board who have said the Renesis would never support that level of power increase, but usually in reference to a boosted app. So, is Ito just trying to show us that serious power gains are possible?
While a 33% peak power gain isn't the end-all of engine tuning, if a well sorted out supercharger could yeild 33% increase in torque from 3,000 rpm to redline, now that would be something to talk about. So maybe Ito is just doing as he says - just trying to point out that big gains are possible, and that there is hope for the boosted methods.
George
p.s. Didn't Charles say that he couldn't run Nitrous at the track due to the need of a scattershield and drivesahft loop? Perhaps that is why Ito isn't talking.
Fine.
He also says he is just trying to demonstrate the potential of the Renesis. So, let's assume he is spraying nitrous, and is pulling 240 RWHP. That's a 33% increase over stock. There are those on this board who have said the Renesis would never support that level of power increase, but usually in reference to a boosted app. So, is Ito just trying to show us that serious power gains are possible?
While a 33% peak power gain isn't the end-all of engine tuning, if a well sorted out supercharger could yeild 33% increase in torque from 3,000 rpm to redline, now that would be something to talk about. So maybe Ito is just doing as he says - just trying to point out that big gains are possible, and that there is hope for the boosted methods.
George
p.s. Didn't Charles say that he couldn't run Nitrous at the track due to the need of a scattershield and drivesahft loop? Perhaps that is why Ito isn't talking.
08-23-2004, 05:25 PM
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DAMM,DAMM
RIGHT ON THE FOREHEAD FOR THOSE JUST TALKING SH*T AND NOT SUPPORTING THEIR FELOWS ROTOR HEAD, GO AHEAD ITO NOW DO 300 WHP AND 100 SHOT OF NYTROS, SO, THEY CAN TALK SHI*T WITH A REASON, THAT'S WHY I NEVER SAY OR COMENT ANYTHING IN THE FORUM, CO'Z IS FULL OF HATERS..
p.s. Didn't Charles say that he couldn't run Nitrous at the track due to the need of a scattershield and drivesahft loop? Perhaps that is why Ito isn't talking
MAYBE THAT'S A REASON, LEARN HOW TO LISTEN READ AND SHUT THE FU*K UP..
EVIL
KEEP THE GOOD WORK, ITO,
PS. TRUST ME THE GUYS THAT ARE TALKING SH*T IN HERE IS CO'Z THEY DON'T KNOW YOU.....
RIGHT ON THE FOREHEAD FOR THOSE JUST TALKING SH*T AND NOT SUPPORTING THEIR FELOWS ROTOR HEAD, GO AHEAD ITO NOW DO 300 WHP AND 100 SHOT OF NYTROS, SO, THEY CAN TALK SHI*T WITH A REASON, THAT'S WHY I NEVER SAY OR COMENT ANYTHING IN THE FORUM, CO'Z IS FULL OF HATERS..
p.s. Didn't Charles say that he couldn't run Nitrous at the track due to the need of a scattershield and drivesahft loop? Perhaps that is why Ito isn't talking
MAYBE THAT'S A REASON, LEARN HOW TO LISTEN READ AND SHUT THE FU*K UP..
EVIL
KEEP THE GOOD WORK, ITO,
PS. TRUST ME THE GUYS THAT ARE TALKING SH*T IN HERE IS CO'Z THEY DON'T KNOW YOU.....
08-23-2004, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Judge Ito
car looks and is in bone stock form but a modification has been made..
I have more to loose here then anybody else. There is more going on behind the scene that puts me in a sitiuation that I will not discuss the mod that has been done. The car made the power and it will make more power as I go along. I'm showing the potential this renesis engine has, I'm not trying to sell a product..
I have more to loose here then anybody else. There is more going on behind the scene that puts me in a sitiuation that I will not discuss the mod that has been done. The car made the power and it will make more power as I go along. I'm showing the potential this renesis engine has, I'm not trying to sell a product..
08-23-2004, 07:09 PM
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OneEvilRx8, simmahdannah...
I'd still put my bet that Ito is spraying. He's probably putting up a really good hidden setup. For whatever reason he's in secrecy, I think he's making the right decision. If anyone ever accuses him of doing whatever to his RX-8, at least it never came from his mouth but rumors from the very excited fans at RX8club.com :D
Time will tell what he could do with his Rx-8. From one RX-8 owner/driver to another, don't stop til it's finished Ito!
I'd still put my bet that Ito is spraying. He's probably putting up a really good hidden setup. For whatever reason he's in secrecy, I think he's making the right decision. If anyone ever accuses him of doing whatever to his RX-8, at least it never came from his mouth but rumors from the very excited fans at RX8club.com :D
Time will tell what he could do with his Rx-8. From one RX-8 owner/driver to another, don't stop til it's finished Ito!
08-23-2004, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Ito: Please don't think I don't respect you and what you do. I do. You are one of the smartest people around when it comes to rotaries. My pet peeve is secrets. That's what I don't like. It isn't anything personal.
08-23-2004, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeH
Hmmmm. Ito says he isn't trying to sell anything, and has reasons to withhold informtion.
Fine.
He also says he is just trying to demonstrate the potential of the Renesis. So, let's assume he is spraying nitrous, and is pulling 240 RWHP. That's a 33% increase over stock. There are those on this board who have said the Renesis would never support that level of power increase, but usually in reference to a boosted app. So, is Ito just trying to show us that serious power gains are possible?
While a 33% peak power gain isn't the end-all of engine tuning, if a well sorted out supercharger could yeild 33% increase in torque from 3,000 rpm to redline, now that would be something to talk about. So maybe Ito is just doing as he says - just trying to point out that big gains are possible, and that there is hope for the boosted methods.
George
p.s. Didn't Charles say that he couldn't run Nitrous at the track due to the need of a scattershield and drivesahft loop? Perhaps that is why Ito isn't talking.
Fine.
He also says he is just trying to demonstrate the potential of the Renesis. So, let's assume he is spraying nitrous, and is pulling 240 RWHP. That's a 33% increase over stock. There are those on this board who have said the Renesis would never support that level of power increase, but usually in reference to a boosted app. So, is Ito just trying to show us that serious power gains are possible?
While a 33% peak power gain isn't the end-all of engine tuning, if a well sorted out supercharger could yeild 33% increase in torque from 3,000 rpm to redline, now that would be something to talk about. So maybe Ito is just doing as he says - just trying to point out that big gains are possible, and that there is hope for the boosted methods.
George
p.s. Didn't Charles say that he couldn't run Nitrous at the track due to the need of a scattershield and drivesahft loop? Perhaps that is why Ito isn't talking.
I will keep testing and tunning and extracting more power from the bone stock renesis engine. For the serious rotary engine lovers I'll keep this forum updated..
08-23-2004, 07:30 PM
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By the way I have build the fastest Non turbo...non supercharged bridgeport 13B engine in the quarter mile in America.. 9.0 @143 miles per hour..... I forgot to mention I love N/A's
08-23-2004, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by brillo
Assuming this graph is real, I figured Nitrous would still give you a better mid range than that, I guess it depends when you use it. with little to no improvement in the low/mid range, I guess FI is out as well. So then it would have to be the ECU, or the ability to rev beyond 9K.
my back fo the envelope calcs say that at 9800RPM, 128lb TQ would get you to 239WHP.....just food for thought.
I always wanted a 10K RPM car....but I'm pretty skeptical like most others, I have to be I'm in banking.
my back fo the envelope calcs say that at 9800RPM, 128lb TQ would get you to 239WHP.....just food for thought.
I always wanted a 10K RPM car....but I'm pretty skeptical like most others, I have to be I'm in banking.
08-23-2004, 07:34 PM
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Go Texas Longhorns!
well, you could clear some of this up if you could confirm or deny your sprayin, if your claiming your not sprayin and no FI, and your results are real, you man be able to have your own cult here 
08-23-2004, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
This thread is a load of poop.
As soon as you stated:
And then followed up with :
you lost any kind of credibility, regardless of how truthful you may be.
That was just stupid.
Additionally, the dyno plot is as useless as the drag pics. Please post something that can actually be read with some context.
If spin without hop is your traction issue, you have some weird tire/surface problem and/or your dyno plot is lying.
As soon as you stated:
And then followed up with :
you lost any kind of credibility, regardless of how truthful you may be.
That was just stupid.
Additionally, the dyno plot is as useless as the drag pics. Please post something that can actually be read with some context.
If spin without hop is your traction issue, you have some weird tire/surface problem and/or your dyno plot is lying.
People Mazda America has a police surfing your net.. Yes Mazda Police....
08-23-2004, 07:45 PM
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I'm thinking Motec ... and bypassing the factory ECU ... just for the track, of course ... since we're all gonna have fun speculating ... while the Judge just has fun ;-)
