r0tor

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its possible... do some internet searching

Spyder_doo

alright thanks

Jamie

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Can this be done whitout sending the units back to canzoomer ? rotor the cz units you are most likely reffering to were mine that jeff was kind enough to re-map for me .

Now they are here in Australia one of them is on my ride , however the ecu keeps on altering the settingson the CZ every few days , and i have to re-connect it to fool it and get it to work properly .


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michael

r0tor

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Maurice e-mailed me a file that should convert the blue to the gold version (the programming cable is needed) with a simple upload. I haven't had time to actually run it yet (figuring if i'm gonna start from scratch i might as well wait for the new flash and my high flow cat), but i did do some searching on the net and the gold and blue versions are running the same hardware but with a few tweaks to the hardware needed - apparently maurice was able to get around this with some program changes.

I'm not sure how his programming changes were made and if it works for all emanages or just his because of how its wired - the other conversion i saw required some light soldering to the board to work with the new firmware. Maurice confirmed he use to need to do some hardware mods but just recently came across doing it this way.


If the ecu is changing things on you, make sure your maps are completely blank below 5500 rpms. Also if your running the gold version you should be using the maf setting for our car instead of the old general mazda one - which means then negative values in the map learn the car out instead of positive ones.

MazdaManiac

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The Blue can be converted to Gold with just a firmware flash, though some of us have also done the small hardware upgrade that appears to be uneccesary.
All you need is the Support Tool and the cable.

BTW - the Ultimate comes with the appropriate Support Tool (used to be a seperate ($100 or so) and uses a standard USB cable now.

That is what I use, minus the gauge. My Profec reads the output for me.


So would I. I listen for ping pretty actively, but I'd rather the PCM have something to say about it.

Thanks. Where are you going?

I don't have a CZ. I have an E-Manage, though I get your point.
The AFR auto-tune feature from Hau requires seperate software and you loose the TPS input.
The Ultimate retains the TPS and boost input along with the seperate A/F input.
Plus it has a ton of programmable output features which would be really useful.

Nemesis8

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I'm moving to my new house which is only 30 miles from the Pacific Ocean :D

I understand you have the Ultimate installed and working. Does it use the same GReddy harness?

Nemesis8

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Should I burn the new bung for the LC-1 right next to the stock one? Does it matter how close it is to the CAT?

http://www.nemesis8.com/images/P1010082.JPG

adrian-1

For the most accurate readings you want to place it before the cat. I have the RP supercat also and I've included a pic of where I put the O2 bung. My LC-1 and XD-1 will arrive sometime next week. I also bought the extender plus I will make a heat sink as per Innovates instructions on their site (copper).

Copper heatsink info on this page. question #3 and 4.

Nemesis8

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Excellent, thanks for the reply. Let me know how the heat sink is done once you start your install.

Nemesis8

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Hey Jeff, did you read the post about the jumper J9 being wrong in the Ultimate manual?

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...4&postcount=10

MazdaManiac

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Yep. Same harness. If you want full injection control and some of the other additional features (knock sensor control, coolant temp sensor control, etc.), you need to add the third plug and harness.
Otherwise, it is the same two plugs with the wires in the same position.

Yeah, I never understood why Maurice liked to do the airflow MAP backwards.
I think it just rubbed off on Greddy, though they only made it so in the installation manual, not in reality. :p

I just left the jumper in the factory position, so it was never an issue.

colin204

how is the unit working out for you?

MazdaManiac

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Just like the regular E-Manage at the moment. I haven't had the time to take advantage of the new features yet. I'm in the middle of moving out of my housse, which I just sold.
Gimme a week.

larbegast

Will the emanage unit ultimate or older allow me to not have flames shoot out the back of my car with a test pipe / exhaust system?

Nemesis8

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Flames are from the unburnt fuel due to the rich OEM flash map. A properly tuned Renesis will not generate flames, so the answer is yes.

larbegast

I was wondering if anyone could recommend some specs for safe tuning my vehicle. I live in Rochester NY and there is not really anyone close by with experience on a rotary engine.

I basically don't want the added feature of flames shooting out the back of the car.

Here's a list of mods that are on my 8

Ram air scoop w/ screens, SRMotorsports MAF, B&B midpipe & Exhaust, Emanage Ultimate, Unothodox UDP's


Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks.

Spyder_doo

Just wondering if anyone has done the blue to gold conversion using the flash and if so have they ran into any problems with it?

Jamie

Spyder_doo

ok is the gold and ultimate the same thing?

dannobre

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Gold very similar to blue...Ultimate = much different :D

Spyder_doo

Ok that's what I was confused about. So you cant go from blue to ultimate with just a flash? Alright that makes more sense now. :D sorry my bad.

Jamie

MazdaManiac

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The Gold is an update to the Blue that adds a new MAP - the accelleration MAP - which is quite useful.
The Greddy turbo kit comes with the Gold E-Manage.

The Ultimate is an entirely different animal with far more inputs and outputs as well as better control over fuel, spark and A/F feedback.

dannobre

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Jeff...did you iron out the glitches on the Ultimate Yet?

MazdaManiac

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Slowly, though it is more like shortcomings in documentation than glitches.
You cannot simply copy the Blue MAPS over and have them work, so I have been retuning at every opportunity.
The wife is getting tired of having to sit with the Dell on her lap.