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BHR Ignition Kit Doesn't Work!!

Old Apr 21, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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^you got my pm Ray...correct?
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Yep.
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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"All PMs replied".

I just never said how soon......
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Many thanks to those who alerted us to this issue in the first place, most notably Nuke0907 and 05rex8.
Charles,

i just found this thread. i haven't packed up my coils yet. so you are saying there is a possible fix now?

i will be willing to try your coils again if you'd like. i do have an AP now and i'm doing a turbo setup soon, so i could really use these.
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Nope.
Man of few words

Nope I'm wrong .... Or nope...that's all we need to know
Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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So here's another question.....what is the available dwell time at 9000 RPM on a rotary engine?

Seems like its quite a bit less than 5ms anyway.....

Jeff...I know your math is a lot better than mine
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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/\ 6.67 ms
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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That assumes no spark duration and possible " quiet time" between the end of spark and start of recharge...

Should still get near 5ms I suppose
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
That assumes no spark duration and possible " quiet time" between the end of spark and start of recharge...

Should still get near 5ms I suppose
BUT your past the torque peak... so not as huge of an issue.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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a little bit scared at the beginning but..................hope BHR find a solution soon
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mack82
a little bit scared at the beginning but..................hope BHR find a solution soon
I thought that there was/is a solution and that BHR had announced it. NA cars are not effected. FI cars will need a tweak to the dwell. MM where are you
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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With regard to MM; Atlas has been forced to shrug. Take that as a bellweather.

As regards the rest of your questions; 5 ms, works like a charm, we've run the numbers and tested them on several cars at the track. If you burn a coil HR has a warranty on them. We asked ourselves the same things weeks ago when we all set about devising a "solution" and it is working fine. No need for any further drama.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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Hey Charles, not to rush or anything. But do you have a time frame on when us F/I guys will get our fix so we can reinstall?
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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In about 7-10 days but there are no guarantees except to say that this is my #1 issue to deal with right now.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Ok Charles, thank you!
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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Allow me to also say that we will be starting with the F/I guys and working our way through the list.

If you are not using MM's "Calibration" service, set your dwell to 5 mS and if you have concerns about coil dwell at higher RPMs you can trim the dwell a bit above about 7,200 RPMs.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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If your dwell is set higher than the time remaining to charge...doesn't it just stop charging at that point and fire?.....ie If there is only 4.5ms...it would run OK

If the dwell is set too short that would be where the problem would come in with the coil not charging enough....
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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The amount of dwell commanded and the point in "time" at which the coil fires are two different things.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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I just learned about this and it's no surprise to see BHR backing up their products the way they do it : their repution speaks for itself.

I may have missed something in this thread : does the 'fix' applies as well to stock/OEM settings? (category 2?)
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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WOW!!! well hopefully next year i will be able to drive to arizona and have jeff tune my car/ instlal my turbo kit =] by then i hope this issue is long gone forgotten!! i trust my baby in you alls hands.

thanks for staying behind your product charles! again another valiant act from a great team! mine have been running great..
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by gtommy
I may have missed something in this thread : does the 'fix' applies as well to stock/OEM settings? (category 2?)
1) If you are N/A without any reflash or other EMS, you will be fine. Of those who had issues my PM survey indicated that the vast majority of them ended up having plug wire problems (that I have since resolved) or got new engines from Mazda. If you are in this category but have nitrous, you'll still be fine.

2) If you are N/A and have a reflash or other way of adjusting the dwell, set it to 5 mS and you are likely to see small improvments. If you are in this category and are using nitrous you, too, will see improvements. If you are using the MM "Calibration Service" we will be sending you an updated map at our expense.

3) The F/I guys NEED to set the dwell at 5 mS and those using the MM "Calibration Service" will be getting the updated maps, first.

Have I forgotten any group?
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
......by then i hope this issue is long gone forgotten!!
In the next couple weeks people will probably be reporting the gains they experience and, after THAT, we can move on to the next scandal/drama/product release/whatever.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Come on CRH, this oversight happened when MM brought the girls over to help assemble kits, didn't it!

And the vision of Flashwing's car as a mule fits perfectly!

The ignition upgrade looks perfect with this support.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
1) If you are N/A without any reflash or other EMS, you will be fine. Of those who had issues my PM survey indicated that the vast majority of them ended up having plug wire problems (that I have since resolved) or got new engines from Mazda. If you are in this category but have nitrous, you'll still be fine.
How is a plug wire problem translated : no engine start? misfire at low rpm? what are the symptoms basically

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