Flashwing

The adjustments are not unknown, have the dwell tuned for 5ms. Done.

Phil's 8

iTrader: (3)

I think we are kicking a dead horse but here it is the way I see it. BHR did not sell you a BMW. He sold you a part to the "BMW". He sent you a set of instructions on how to install the part. He then added an instruction that required you to make an adjustment. Since he did not make or sell you the ECU to the BMW how is he responsible for doing the adjustment? He is giving you the setting. I could only agree with you if BHR did not provide the "fix". In your case MM is telling you or your tuner exactly what to do.

robrecht

How much would it typically cost for a tuner to make these unanticipated tweaks, unanticipated because the coils were marketed as plug 'n' play? Kane isn't asking for money, just the sharing of knowledge to help make this unanticipated adjustment.

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

Of all the people complaining, griping, bitching, moaning, and people who aren't even BHR Ignition System customers who have been helped by me, and the rest of the BHR team on this matter and others, blah, blah , blah, nobody......... and I mean NOBODY, bothered to PM me asking WTF was going on since the day I posted this ******* thread. I have spent a couple hours on the phone talking with Kane about this situation and others so it's not as if I haven't been dealing with this directly and personally. HOURS. Only yesterday did r0tor and RK contact me directly, as well.

Meanwhile, MM is doing exactly as I have asked of him and we have been posting up the information needed for the rest of you. Those of you who have decided to use EMSs or software with which BHR is not familiar.... how the **** are we supposed to know how the Hymee, Harrison, or any other reflash software communicates with the factory PCM? Why is it such a God-damned problem to call Mark, Dan, or whomever and ask them "Hey, what values do I need to have on the dwell tables in order to get 5 mS delivered to the coil?" Why is THIS such a ******* problem for you guys?

On top of that, I have offered to resolve the problem with anyone who feels cheated. Remember, Mazda has dropped ***** far worse than this and none of us has returned our RX-8s to the dealer.

As such, not one person has the right to bitch, moan, complain. And those who have built their own kit have no actual purpose in posting here with any HINT of negative attitude.

Don't be surprised when I either ask the mods to clean and lock this thread or I flat-out delete this ************.

Don't like my attitude? I really don't give a **** anymore.

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

Kane has gotten far better treatment and information from me than he is alluding to, and he KNOWS it. So has everyone else and the only reason anyone is posting up here anymore is because we LUUUUUUVs our drama around here. I am done with this ****.

rotary.enthusiast

Wow, this thread has really devolved.

Ray, I think the major issue is this: people who bought the coils for an FI application thinking that their dwell settings would not have to be changed now have to figure out how to do so. There are a lot of people out there using the stock PCM with some type of flashing tool at this point, and the units in the PCM's dwell map are unknown to most of them. The real agitator is that somebody affiliated with BHR seems to understand what these units are, but is reluctant to divulge it.

Anybody who doesn't fall into the above category just likes to bitch, and should shut up.

baysj

iTrader: (1)

That is what I was trying to say. I didnt mean to be confusing or sound like I was attacking BHR. You did alot better then my BMW analogy

Flashwing

Ok, I have a very very very simple question:

Of the actual BHR customers who own this kit...how many people in this read are having actual ignition problems?

staticlag

Any customers of BHR should PM/email/call Charles with questions/concerns/gripes.