Looking forward to the solution!

 

Just out of curiosity, is the fix for FI problem a software mod or harware?

 

I cant wait to get the fix so I can reinstall them on my car. It runs good already with the OEM ones so it should do great with the BHR ones.

 

Though mine work just fine I'm interested to hear what the issue is. I'm curious if it has something to do with my car not starting on the 1st crank when warm. I also have an AP...so I will stay tuned!

Thanks for being up front about the issue, BHR. I hope this doesn't hurt the business.

 

Neither.

As I mentioned in my first post regarding "Gamma-testing"; one of the interesting things I have learned recently was just how many people installed the BHR Ignition System in the veiled hopes that it would "cure" or "help" solve problems that were completely unrelated to the ignition system. Low compression, weak batteries, slow starter speed, etc. are not symptoms that can be alleviated with a "hotter" or better spark no matter WHICH ignition system one is installing. Whereas installing a nitrous system on a weak performing engine will still result in a weak performing engine, installing an H.O. ignition system is not going to result in anything other than a weak engine with a really cool ignition system on it.

In several cases (and this concept happens with almost every product we vendors sell and the main reason vendors in this industry become jaded, when they do), those who KNEW their engines were not in the best of condition still sent me panicked PMs insisting that the coils were flawed, damaged, or inoperable and it was somehow the fault of the coil kit that their problems were not alleviated. Of course, the pre-existing conditions were never mentioned to me until several troubleshooting attempts on my part, many PMs back-and-forth, and many sleepless nights with concern for my customers' situations and BHR's reputation. I understand that the object about which we consumers know the least, in this case electrical components, is usually the one we are first to blame when things go awry. Electrical stuff is still a mystery to 99% of people in the world. Using re-flash tools and tuning software runs a pretty close second.

 

Is this a confession, of sorts, and are you still on the subject of the coils?

 

wow,

ray, again first class customer service! and getting ahead of the issue..

keep up the excellent service!

beers

 

Wow, just incredible!

Scribed for some interesting stuff.

Can't believe this stuff is going to get even AWESOMER! Ppl can expect a 50horsepower increase right?

 

You can expect whatever you like.

 

I expect a 150 shot to immediately be attainable

 

It already is. Your engine wouldn't like it, though.

 

Then give me your engine lol

 

Come to AZ and you can drive the car all you want while you are here.

 

that would probably be the best loaner car in az..

 

Ray,
So no nitrous until I get the fix?

 

Nope. MM's would be. Mine is a garbage truck by comparison.

 

Nitrous will be fine but I would suggest you wait.

 

Ray, will this delay the shipment of the coils which were going out this Monday and should we hold off on installing them when we get them? I'm still currently NA, but plan to be boosted by next month.

 

No, but keep an eye on your PM boxes.

 

In having the issues arise with the coil kit and investigating the situation we discovered the following;

1) N/A applications that are NOT using some sort of re-flash/EMS device are completely fine with the BHR kit as is.
2) Those who have a re-flash/EMS device (even while N/A) will be able to see some small additional gains and we will address this with each of you.
3) The seriously boosted engines (such as 7 PSI, manifold, or more) need this fix and should either exercise restraint or re-install the OEM coils until we contact you.
4) Nitrous users are in both groups 1 and 2 above.
5) GReddy Turbo Kit users are in group 2.

Many thanks to those who alerted us to this issue in the first place, most notably Nuke0907 and 05rex8.

I am probably going to get yelled at or several questions from people so PLEASE READ THE ABOVE CAREFULLY before you deluge me with PMs asking, "Which category am I in?"

 

Sweet deal. Glad BHR has found the answer. You got a huge pair of brass ones to step forward and say you made a mistake. I respect that, especially when you've got a fix for it too. Good work Charles.

This isn't a case of coil dwell timing again is it?

 

Several people have expressed this same sentiment via posts and PMs, Socket, and though I appreciate the support and empathy, the reason I have not responded to such sentiments is because I don't think I am doing anything more than what is right and proper. As such, I am somewhat uncomfortable with the idea that I deserve any kind of praise on this particular matter because this is what we vendors are SUPPOSED to do. If anyone will be deserving praise it will be the rest of the BHR team (MazdaManiac, Easy_E1, Flashwing, and Hund) as THEY are the ones who will probably be helping me and they don't deserve to have this matter added to their list of stuff to do. I fucked-up and it is totally on me to fix it all.

The dwell characteristics are a bit different between the LS2 and Yukon coils. Even so, we still feel the Yukon coils are "The Bomb" when all things are considered. If I thought another coil was a superior choice (and I had some really cool ideas on what to do) I would have instituted changes by now and recalled each and every BHR Ignition System in the process. When the dwell is adjusted properly the Yukon coils are every bit as powerful as we have always said and we will stand behind these Bad Boys, 100%.

 

QFT. Any person or company that is willing to admit to and fix previous mistakes gains respect in all levels in my book.

EVERYONE, makes mistakes. Those who learn from them are wise, and those who take responsibility for them are honored. You my friend, are both.

 

/\ Good, was wondering if there was going to be a shipment issue...

You can't calll it a total "****-UP", as it does work, and works well and it won't blow your engine, so that's a plus side.

Oh and good job on taking responsibility man... proves you have some pretty big ***** to own up.