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Old 01-25-2012, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe RX-8
err, rather in this thread.


you're right; that was easy, huh?
Old 01-26-2012, 08:22 PM
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I bought some Conti DW's for the street/rain

I can't wait to try them out.


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Old 01-26-2012, 10:06 PM
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Any reason you chose the Contis over the Pilot Super Sports?

I just bought a set of the later, for my rain/street tires. As you say, looking forward to seeing how they perform.
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Originally Posted by GeorgeH
Any reason you chose the Contis over the Pilot Super Sports?

Any reason why you didn't?
Old 01-27-2012, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeH
Any reason you chose the Contis over the Pilot Super Sports?

I just bought a set of the later, for my rain/street tires. As you say, looking forward to seeing how they perform.
The main reason was price, and people said they work great in the. Wet.


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The Michelins are ~$100/tire more expensive.
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Yes to both of the above.

I decided to give the Super Sports a try as Tire Rack has them significantly outperforming the DWs in the wet (0.5 sec on a 30 second course). Given how many points are decided in cool, wet conditions here in Oregon & Washington, I decided to spend the extra cash and see how it turns out.

Also, I dislike a soft sidewall on the street, but that's just a subjective preference.

But yes the DWs are a known quantity and do great in the wet. Cheap too.
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supposedly they are worth it ...
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Originally Posted by murph1379
lol pot, meet kettle?



So Brian, what's actually different about these shocks from the Motons? They're plenty expensive, but like Moton before them, their website is completely lacking on any details about how they're different from any of the competition.

I find shopping for dampers a very frustrating experience. Every other $5k+ product spends a lot of marketing time telling consumers why they're better than the other guy, with lots of details. Damper manufacturers just put "we're betterer!" on their website and hope people come to them with big wads of cash? wtf?
I see the MCS as a continuation of their previous Moton line, being the next iteration of their proven product line. I see the new company as a positive thing, allowing them to retool the line with a few improvements from their years of supporting the shocks. I ordered in November and was their 13th set built, and they appear to be selling quite well. I would talk to Motion Control if you want more technical details. Talked to Lex for over an hour when we picked them up, and I am sure he could answer any questions that you may have.

We autocrossed them last weekend and it was a blast. Car feels so much more confidence inspiring in that it doesnt get as upset with rough pavement and settles quicker over bumps. Steering feels sharper with the added front compression vs the Koni.

Should have a second OS Giken diff coming soon. Jeff had detuned the one in our car by deactiviting the outside disc when he set it up, and I want to compare it with a stock configuration OS Giken. Anyone on here play with tuning these things up?

Put some Pilot Super Sport tires on my wife's Genesis a couple of months ago, and like them a lot for DD tires. Have not autocrossed them though. Not a fan of not being able to flip them, and also not having 255/40-17.
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It is the same setup as the FD3 unit intended for the factory power output range. So if your Renesis output is up to snuff you shouldn't have to touch it IMO. If not, it will probably push on corner exit. You certainly don't adjust it by deactivating discs. Sounds like someone doesn't really understand how the OSG works and/or know what they are doing.
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I am getting the car ready for this season.

So far since I bought the car, I bought some Goodridge SS brake lines, AP U/D Pulley, 17X9 RPF1 35 offset, Conti DW's, Hankook RS-3's, Dunlop Star spec's, Hawk HPS, Rota Grids(for the street), Ohlins DFV, Swift springs,.....

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Sounds like a pretty good investment
I saw your other set of RPF1s in the FS section...very tempted
I'm on 18X9.5 RPF1s now but, I'd rather run 17X9s despite being SC'd
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What spring rates did you go with Eric? I'm trying to get my hands on a lightly used set of Ohlins revalved for 11k / 6k springs. Unfortunately, we only have one event before the MD Pro, so I'm reluctant to make such a drastic change (along with changing to a different tire this year) before the start of the season.
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Originally Posted by Simmons-Racing
I am getting the car ready for this season.
Nice! I'll be watching this closely. Very curious to hear the ownership review of the ohlins.
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MD Pro registration is open and filling up fast:
http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.c...0B214BD7E9658A
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looks like the Texas Sun Belt Tour will have it's usual low turnout

https://www.motorsportreg.com/index....4144E3F5B4AACF


zelse has Ohlins, you can just ask him, I don't see how it made sense to swap out the Bilstein PSS9s for them, but that's just me

of course I would have just been me and swapped them out with Koni 2812s


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Zelse and Eric both have custom valving and stiffer springs. I think kster has Ohlins with the factory valving and spring rates...
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
looks like the Texas Sun Belt Tour will have it's usual low turnout

https://www.motorsportreg.com/index....4144E3F5B4AACF


zelse has Ohlins, you can just ask him, I don't see how it made sense to swap out the Bilstein PSS9s for them, but that's just me

of course I would have just been me and swapped them out with Koni 2812s


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there is a big difference between the Bilsteens and Ohlins. I had the same set on my STR Miata and they worked really well. Plus they are 16.4 lbs lighter than the Bilsteins.

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Signed up for the DC Pro
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Signed up for the DC Pro
Sweet, it should be Fun. I wonder how bad the grip will be that early in the year?


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Didn't they just repave the lot?
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Originally Posted by TopGear8
Didn't they just repave the lot?
it was a couple years ago
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Originally Posted by Simmons-Racing
there is a big difference between the Bilsteens and Ohlins. I had the same set on my STR Miata and they worked really well. Plus they are 16.4 lbs lighter than the Bilsteins.

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You will be surprised how different two sets of the same shocks that are identical except for having different valving can feel ...

but the weight, there is that.
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I just closed the deal on the Ohlins. I'll have them installed in time for MD, but with only one local event to try them out. My JIC FLT-TAR's will be going up for sale as soon as I can get them off the car and cleaned up for pictures.


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