best motoring vol. 7: rx8 vs g35 vs s2000 vs wrx vs rsx
06-30-2003, 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
This link shows S2Ks with street tires whooping up on a couple Z06s that had Hoosiers on them.
http://www.waiautox.org/2003/03wai2class.pdf
Just goes to show, driver and how well the car is setup for the track makes a huge huge difference. Yet another example of why you shouldn't put my faith in numbers racing.
This link shows S2Ks with street tires whooping up on a couple Z06s that had Hoosiers on them.
http://www.waiautox.org/2003/03wai2class.pdf
Just goes to show, driver and how well the car is setup for the track makes a huge huge difference. Yet another example of why you shouldn't put my faith in numbers racing.
06-30-2003, 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
I find that last link very odd. I used to race 125 cc shifter karts and there is no way in hell any Solo2 car should keep up with let alone beat one around a track. I used to turn laps 5 secs faster than a local instructor in his Modded M3 at a local race track. Are you sure it wasn't Schumacher in that Miata, and that Camaro... someone needs to give that guy to a racing contract.
I'd be curious to see that track layout and track conditions, or maybe the 125 CC shifter guys are just bad drivers. The cream of the crop in karting does not race solo2, so that may explain it.
I find that last link very odd. I used to race 125 cc shifter karts and there is no way in hell any Solo2 car should keep up with let alone beat one around a track. I used to turn laps 5 secs faster than a local instructor in his Modded M3 at a local race track. Are you sure it wasn't Schumacher in that Miata, and that Camaro... someone needs to give that guy to a racing contract.
I'd be curious to see that track layout and track conditions, or maybe the 125 CC shifter guys are just bad drivers. The cream of the crop in karting does not race solo2, so that may explain it.
As for the Camaro, well, Denny has been pedalling that thing for years, and he regularly trophies at Nationals. In fact, our Texas Spokes club has many regular trophy-getters and several national champions in our midst - everyone from 2nd to 8th outright that day is a national champ or trophier.
06-30-2003, 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by Winning
Well, I have an Sti. I know it doesn't look that fantastic, but it can kick any VQ skyline, 350Z and Neon's ***!!!! Twisties, straight line, mountain you name it!!! It is also less expensive than G35C or 350Z, in standard form unless the new GTR come out, you all can forget seeing my tail lights in mountain passes.
I am still getting my RX8 because I love the package. Even if the G35C or even 350Z is cheaper than the RX8, will I get it instead of the RX8? No way, I personally think the G35C is sooo ugly, fat and does not look as lean and sit as nice as the RX8. While the 350Z design does not have character at all, you can see a lot of Porsche and Audi TT influence in the design. And to make it worse, the same VQ engine with maxima, so expect awful exhaust note.
I love the GT-Rs 32, 33, and 34 just hope that R35 does not use the same flatform as the skyline coupe and 350Zand more powerful VQ engine . If it does, it does not deserve the GTR badge anymore!! On the other hand, if the two door RX8 use the same platform and more powerful renesis engine, it deserve the RX7 badge. Everyone agree with this?
You all have to remember that the RX8 that we are getting at the moment is sort of the beginning of the RX8 line and renesis rotary!! we don't have much choice. Expect more and better variation to come like Mazdaspeed and RX7. Then we all have more choices for different needs.
Like I said the bottom line is if I like the RX8, you can say whatever you want I don't care. If you like you G35coupe, and everyone else in this forum is getting the RX8, so what!!!! It is your money, and different people has different taste!!! Enjoy your Best Motoring track victory in your own forum, please!! And even better since you'all have your skyline coupe already, enjoy your car instead of wasting so much time in the RX8 forum!!! Just pity us that we still have not receive our RX8 yet. So if you still cannot resist to tell us about your Best Motoring stuff, please wait until sometimes next month. Because most of us will enjoy our RX8 and most likely will not be here for a while!!!
Well, I have an Sti. I know it doesn't look that fantastic, but it can kick any VQ skyline, 350Z and Neon's ***!!!! Twisties, straight line, mountain you name it!!! It is also less expensive than G35C or 350Z, in standard form unless the new GTR come out, you all can forget seeing my tail lights in mountain passes.
I am still getting my RX8 because I love the package. Even if the G35C or even 350Z is cheaper than the RX8, will I get it instead of the RX8? No way, I personally think the G35C is sooo ugly, fat and does not look as lean and sit as nice as the RX8. While the 350Z design does not have character at all, you can see a lot of Porsche and Audi TT influence in the design. And to make it worse, the same VQ engine with maxima, so expect awful exhaust note.
I love the GT-Rs 32, 33, and 34 just hope that R35 does not use the same flatform as the skyline coupe and 350Zand more powerful VQ engine . If it does, it does not deserve the GTR badge anymore!! On the other hand, if the two door RX8 use the same platform and more powerful renesis engine, it deserve the RX7 badge. Everyone agree with this?
You all have to remember that the RX8 that we are getting at the moment is sort of the beginning of the RX8 line and renesis rotary!! we don't have much choice. Expect more and better variation to come like Mazdaspeed and RX7. Then we all have more choices for different needs.
Like I said the bottom line is if I like the RX8, you can say whatever you want I don't care. If you like you G35coupe, and everyone else in this forum is getting the RX8, so what!!!! It is your money, and different people has different taste!!! Enjoy your Best Motoring track victory in your own forum, please!! And even better since you'all have your skyline coupe already, enjoy your car instead of wasting so much time in the RX8 forum!!! Just pity us that we still have not receive our RX8 yet. So if you still cannot resist to tell us about your Best Motoring stuff, please wait until sometimes next month. Because most of us will enjoy our RX8 and most likely will not be here for a while!!!
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07-08-2003, 12:05 AM
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i just want to say winning is a totally uneducated and completely retarded fanboy.
if you guys spent time reading what he wrote you'd realize he 1. cant speak english and 2. doesnt have a clue what the **** hes talking about.
"all magazines bash the s2000 because its electronic handling sucks" - winning, automotive expert
if you guys spent time reading what he wrote you'd realize he 1. cant speak english and 2. doesnt have a clue what the **** hes talking about.
"all magazines bash the s2000 because its electronic handling sucks" - winning, automotive expert
07-08-2003, 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
6.) The G35 is an impressive car, I call foul if you don't feel this way and love cars
6.) The G35 is an impressive car, I call foul if you don't feel this way and love cars
Get ready to call foul on me then, because I'm not impressed by it one bit. My wife bought one of the first 6 speed coupes to hit the road, though I tried my damnedest to talk her out of it, and it took me all of an hour to see it's the Jennifer Lopez of the car world; big assed, and WAY overrated.
I hate it so much that Ive started doing things against it, for my own amusement. Stuff like leaving a handprint on it after it's been detailed. Or parking both my cars in the garage so she'll have to park in the driveway.
Anyway, if you think it's "impressive," great. But, some of us see through its shiny newness and realize it's not exactly the greatest thing since latex, like some make it out to be.
07-08-2003, 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by IIIseries
I hate it so much that Ive started doing things against it, for my own amusement. Stuff like leaving a handprint on it after it's been detailed. Or parking both my cars in the garage so she'll have to park in the driveway.
I hate it so much that Ive started doing things against it, for my own amusement. Stuff like leaving a handprint on it after it's been detailed. Or parking both my cars in the garage so she'll have to park in the driveway.
07-13-2003, 08:42 PM
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Hmmm does anyone else get the feeling IIIseries might have some issues that run a little deeper than not liking the G35 :p
What exactly don't you like about the car? Does it make your Beemer jealous? And what's wrong with Jennifer Lopez?!?!
What exactly don't you like about the car? Does it make your Beemer jealous? And what's wrong with Jennifer Lopez?!?!
07-13-2003, 11:33 PM
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Jesus, 16 pages and climbing to #1 viewed topic spot on this forum..... btw: I think IIIseries is kind of bitter that his wife got the car without his expert conset. :p That's gotta suck. I think I'd burst a artery if my wife buys a Mazda.
07-16-2003, 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
Hmmm does anyone else get the feeling IIIseries might have some issues that run a little deeper than not liking the G35 :p
What exactly don't you like about the car? Does it make your Beemer jealous? And what's wrong with Jennifer Lopez?!?!
Hmmm does anyone else get the feeling IIIseries might have some issues that run a little deeper than not liking the G35 :p
What exactly don't you like about the car? Does it make your Beemer jealous? And what's wrong with Jennifer Lopez?!?!
That was rhetorical, so dont waste your time answering. Besides, reading about that thing bores me.
I dont own a "Beemer" so that would be a negative. If you meant "Bimmer" then that would be a negative as well. First off, comparing the two is comparing apples to [rotten] tomatoes and 2, I know which one is the better car.
What's wrong with Jenny from the block? If you have to ask, you wouldnt get it. But hey, if you're impressed by a plain looking, fat ***, no talent ho that this country adores (for some stupid reason), that's on you.
07-16-2003, 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by Skyline Maniac
Jesus, 16 pages and climbing to #1 viewed topic spot on this forum..... btw: I think IIIseries is kind of bitter that his wife got the car without his expert conset. :p That's gotta suck. I think I'd burst a artery if my wife buys a Mazda.
Jesus, 16 pages and climbing to #1 viewed topic spot on this forum..... btw: I think IIIseries is kind of bitter that his wife got the car without his expert conset. :p That's gotta suck. I think I'd burst a artery if my wife buys a Mazda.
Oh, and just because I have taste and she lost hers temporarily when she ordered it, doesnt mean Im "bitter."
07-19-2003, 07:19 PM
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Two words IIIseries, ANGER MANAGEMENT! I've driven both cars and I would take the G35 in a heartbeat. I see 20 3 series to every G35, I like being a little different and also preferred the performance of the G35. Not to mention the upkeep concerns and the attitude that seems to go along with so many BMW owners, I just don't want to be a part of that crowd. When I looked at some used 330s when I was testing the market for cars the dealers attitude alone were enough to make me not want to buy the car. They are NOT the most incredible cars in the world. Though I do like and respect them enough to have considered owning one.
07-19-2003, 08:16 PM
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Good for you. I guess we all have preferences.
Personally, they could discount the G to $20k (which, coincidentally is all it-like all the other second rate Japanese "luxury" cars-feels worth) and I still wouldnt even consider owning one.
Personally, they could discount the G to $20k (which, coincidentally is all it-like all the other second rate Japanese "luxury" cars-feels worth) and I still wouldnt even consider owning one.
07-20-2003, 01:24 PM
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To be fair, most BMW drivers are very nice people. Go to a local BMWSCC event and you'll meet some of the best drivers and nicest people around. Unfortunately there are always people like III here that misrepresent the clan.
07-25-2003, 01:31 AM
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Originally posted by IIIseries
I dont own a "Beemer" so that would be a negative. If you meant "Bimmer" then that would be a negative as well.
I dont own a "Beemer" so that would be a negative. If you meant "Bimmer" then that would be a negative as well.
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Eh~ check page 12.... never mind. I'll cut and paste again.
Name------------RX8 Skyline 350Z S2000 WRX Integra R
Weight (lbs)---2889 3374 3197 2778 2999 2602
Engine-------13B-MSP VQ35DE VQ35DE F20C EJ20 K20A
Displacement--654×2 3498 3498 1997 1994 1998
Max Power-------250 280 280 250 250 220
Max Torque------159 268 268 160 246 152
PW Ratio-------5.24 5.46 5.18 5.04 5.44 5.36
Tire----POTENZA RE040 RE040 RE040 RS-02 RE011 RE040
Price (USD)---23913 29478 31304 29826 21330 22522
The WRX is the new version regular WRX with 250hp, not US spec.
Name------------RX8 Skyline 350Z S2000 WRX Integra R
Weight (lbs)---2889 3374 3197 2778 2999 2602
Engine-------13B-MSP VQ35DE VQ35DE F20C EJ20 K20A
Displacement--654×2 3498 3498 1997 1994 1998
Max Power-------250 280 280 250 250 220
Max Torque------159 268 268 160 246 152
PW Ratio-------5.24 5.46 5.18 5.04 5.44 5.36
Tire----POTENZA RE040 RE040 RE040 RS-02 RE011 RE040
Price (USD)---23913 29478 31304 29826 21330 22522
The WRX is the new version regular WRX with 250hp, not US spec.
