RX8 is going to have to go.. Si, or GTi..
It's a Cavalier
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From: Austin, TX
a New 30mpg car for the mix to think about.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/28/o...-bows-at-sema/
PRESS RELEASES:
2008 CHEVROLET COBALT SS FAST FACTS
* Engineered and developed by GM Performance Division
* 2.0L Ecotec turbocharged and intercooled engine with 260 horsepower (194 kW)
* GM Powertrain Sweden five-speed transmission with short-throw shifter
* Nürburgring-tuned FE5 Sport suspension delivers 0.9 g grip
* Brembo fixed-caliper front discs and vented rear disc brakes
* SS-specific appearance with unique fascias and rear spoiler – including available high wing
* 18-inch high-polished forged aluminum wheels and Y-rated performance tires
* SS-specific interior with new sport seats, A-pillar boost gauge and more
* On sale: second quarter of 2008
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/28/o...-bows-at-sema/
PRESS RELEASES:
2008 CHEVROLET COBALT SS FAST FACTS
* Engineered and developed by GM Performance Division
* 2.0L Ecotec turbocharged and intercooled engine with 260 horsepower (194 kW)
* GM Powertrain Sweden five-speed transmission with short-throw shifter
* Nürburgring-tuned FE5 Sport suspension delivers 0.9 g grip
* Brembo fixed-caliper front discs and vented rear disc brakes
* SS-specific appearance with unique fascias and rear spoiler – including available high wing
* 18-inch high-polished forged aluminum wheels and Y-rated performance tires
* SS-specific interior with new sport seats, A-pillar boost gauge and more
* On sale: second quarter of 2008
Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
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Joined: Feb 2002
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From: Los Angeles, CA
did you calculate how much you stand to lose on the trade of the rx-8, plus the additional cost of the new vehicle, verses what you'll save on gas? How long till the swap breaks even?
Too many people look at just what the fuel bill is, not realizing it will take them years in the replacement vehicle for the swap to break even.
Too many people look at just what the fuel bill is, not realizing it will take them years in the replacement vehicle for the swap to break even.
Doppelgänger
Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Florida
my bad.
OK then, my recommendation is to get this as the replacement vehicle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D827IxEJVS4
OK then, my recommendation is to get this as the replacement vehicle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D827IxEJVS4
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From: Connecticut
Don't trust a dealership. They're there to make money, that is all.
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From: calgary
a New 30mpg car for the mix to think about.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/28/o...-bows-at-sema/
PRESS RELEASES:
2008 CHEVROLET COBALT SS FAST FACTS
* Engineered and developed by GM Performance Division
* 2.0L Ecotec turbocharged and intercooled engine with 260 horsepower (194 kW)
* GM Powertrain Sweden five-speed transmission with short-throw shifter
* Nürburgring-tuned FE5 Sport suspension delivers 0.9 g grip
* Brembo fixed-caliper front discs and vented rear disc brakes
* SS-specific appearance with unique fascias and rear spoiler – including available high wing
* 18-inch high-polished forged aluminum wheels and Y-rated performance tires
* SS-specific interior with new sport seats, A-pillar boost gauge and more
* On sale: second quarter of 2008
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/28/o...-bows-at-sema/
PRESS RELEASES:
2008 CHEVROLET COBALT SS FAST FACTS
* Engineered and developed by GM Performance Division
* 2.0L Ecotec turbocharged and intercooled engine with 260 horsepower (194 kW)
* GM Powertrain Sweden five-speed transmission with short-throw shifter
* Nürburgring-tuned FE5 Sport suspension delivers 0.9 g grip
* Brembo fixed-caliper front discs and vented rear disc brakes
* SS-specific appearance with unique fascias and rear spoiler – including available high wing
* 18-inch high-polished forged aluminum wheels and Y-rated performance tires
* SS-specific interior with new sport seats, A-pillar boost gauge and more
* On sale: second quarter of 2008
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From: Connecticut
The new engine output is impressive....the Cobalt SS was a bit faster than the RX8 in a str8 line before, should be a lot faster now. Around a track? Not so much.
That EcoTec engine is impressive! The Cobalt SS may have a cheap interior and may be ugly, but for 26 mpg it is definitely one to put on the list.
That EcoTec engine is impressive! The Cobalt SS may have a cheap interior and may be ugly, but for 26 mpg it is definitely one to put on the list.
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Posts: 278
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From: Canberra, Australia
jesus this is a lame comment.
I'll throw up for consideration a Mini Cooper S or Honda Integra Type-R as brilliant cars. If you have the b@lls to bag them, go for it. Your'e gonna look like a kn0b. RWD is not THE be all and end all of driving.
I'll throw up for consideration a Mini Cooper S or Honda Integra Type-R as brilliant cars. If you have the b@lls to bag them, go for it. Your'e gonna look like a kn0b. RWD is not THE be all and end all of driving.
T-29 years and counting
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some clever people have given you some good advice mjones - take it .
Think about this for a second . How long will it be before you would have paid off the 8 and have no more payments to make . At that time how much longer will you need to make payments on a new car . Think of the money you will be saving THEN . Might pay for a few tanks of gas - yes ?
Think about this for a second . How long will it be before you would have paid off the 8 and have no more payments to make . At that time how much longer will you need to make payments on a new car . Think of the money you will be saving THEN . Might pay for a few tanks of gas - yes ?
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From: Norway
If it's all about the money it would make more sense to refinance the payment on the 8 to be less each month and longer payments, since that's how the dealer would screw you over on a new car anyway, only not decreasing the payment 
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Say with your trade-in, down payment, and everything else, you are only paying $10,000 for your new 29mpg 'gas sipper' (btw, 29mpg is not very fuel efficient) for your 60 month loan (including interest).
19mpg over 29mpg = 66% of original fuel use.
66% of $500 monthly fuel cost = $328 monthly fuel bill.
Monthly savings: $172.
Months to 'make-up' $10,000 loan from trading in: 58 months.
So, almost five years before you break even.
Paying off your current car with 19mpg > trading in for a new one for 29mpg.
While gas prices make filling-up painful, it would be stupid for me to trade in my RX-8 just because of the price of gas, especially since most vehicles only get another 10-15 mpg on the highway.
I'm thinking, as a result of gas prices, there should be some major developments in the next few years as far as car engine technology goes. I'm going to wait to see what becomes available from that (mmm... Tesla Roadster), because 29mpg isn't worth it.
19mpg over 29mpg = 66% of original fuel use.
66% of $500 monthly fuel cost = $328 monthly fuel bill.
Monthly savings: $172.
Months to 'make-up' $10,000 loan from trading in: 58 months.
So, almost five years before you break even.
Paying off your current car with 19mpg > trading in for a new one for 29mpg.
While gas prices make filling-up painful, it would be stupid for me to trade in my RX-8 just because of the price of gas, especially since most vehicles only get another 10-15 mpg on the highway.
I'm thinking, as a result of gas prices, there should be some major developments in the next few years as far as car engine technology goes. I'm going to wait to see what becomes available from that (mmm... Tesla Roadster), because 29mpg isn't worth it.
a New 30mpg car for the mix to think about.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/28/o...-bows-at-sema/
PRESS RELEASES:
2008 CHEVROLET COBALT SS FAST FACTS
* Engineered and developed by GM Performance Division
* 2.0L Ecotec turbocharged and intercooled engine with 260 horsepower (194 kW)
* GM Powertrain Sweden five-speed transmission with short-throw shifter
* Nürburgring-tuned FE5 Sport suspension delivers 0.9 g grip
* Brembo fixed-caliper front discs and vented rear disc brakes
* SS-specific appearance with unique fascias and rear spoiler – including available high wing
* 18-inch high-polished forged aluminum wheels and Y-rated performance tires
* SS-specific interior with new sport seats, A-pillar boost gauge and more
* On sale: second quarter of 2008
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/28/o...-bows-at-sema/
PRESS RELEASES:
2008 CHEVROLET COBALT SS FAST FACTS
* Engineered and developed by GM Performance Division
* 2.0L Ecotec turbocharged and intercooled engine with 260 horsepower (194 kW)
* GM Powertrain Sweden five-speed transmission with short-throw shifter
* Nürburgring-tuned FE5 Sport suspension delivers 0.9 g grip
* Brembo fixed-caliper front discs and vented rear disc brakes
* SS-specific appearance with unique fascias and rear spoiler – including available high wing
* 18-inch high-polished forged aluminum wheels and Y-rated performance tires
* SS-specific interior with new sport seats, A-pillar boost gauge and more
* On sale: second quarter of 2008
