Pettit Racing’s Forced Induction System
07-21-2007, 08:24 AM
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Dan, I have always made the clear distinction between Jeff's tone and my own even though he and I see eye-to-eye on a lot of stuff. I just present myself differently on-line than he does. In real life he is the gentleman and I am the *****. Just kidding.
As for tones otherwise, and this may be a mistake on my part, it just seems like there are a lot of people trying to gain reputation of their own by either being harshly critical or blindly supportive of certain companies and personalities. Using myself as an example because it is the only polite thing to do; I can handle harsh criticism. Hell, that's why I chose Paradox as my company's name. All my life I have been told whatever it was I was doing couldn't be done. Yet, I did it. I haven't cured cancer but I was told that nitrous would wreck my engine. The thing that makes me cautious is the blind support. To know that there are people out there who would defend me against criticism makes me FEEL good but it is not always proper because sometimes those criticisms are well-founded. The point in my grouping Cam, Jeff, et al, together was because those gatherings have actually taken place and that is where problems are solved. Not here. Jeff and I have worked together to solve certain issues with Phil's car but he and I have never worked on it together. Nor do we really discuss it much. Don't need to because we share a vision as to how Phil's car should look and perform. I worry about Phil's car more than Phil, himself, does and he'll tell ya that. I am pretty picky about who I trust outside of my own presence on projects like this, too. I am rambling here but whatever. At least we're not fighting.
As for tones otherwise, and this may be a mistake on my part, it just seems like there are a lot of people trying to gain reputation of their own by either being harshly critical or blindly supportive of certain companies and personalities. Using myself as an example because it is the only polite thing to do; I can handle harsh criticism. Hell, that's why I chose Paradox as my company's name. All my life I have been told whatever it was I was doing couldn't be done. Yet, I did it. I haven't cured cancer but I was told that nitrous would wreck my engine. The thing that makes me cautious is the blind support. To know that there are people out there who would defend me against criticism makes me FEEL good but it is not always proper because sometimes those criticisms are well-founded. The point in my grouping Cam, Jeff, et al, together was because those gatherings have actually taken place and that is where problems are solved. Not here. Jeff and I have worked together to solve certain issues with Phil's car but he and I have never worked on it together. Nor do we really discuss it much. Don't need to because we share a vision as to how Phil's car should look and perform. I worry about Phil's car more than Phil, himself, does and he'll tell ya that. I am pretty picky about who I trust outside of my own presence on projects like this, too. I am rambling here but whatever. At least we're not fighting.I have nothing to gain and would rather not be the lack-luster guy being Pettit's mouth-piece poster boy.
I do know that there is a whole lot of work going on behind the Magical Curtains of Pettit. And these are not like the Curtains of OZ if you get my point.
I do not have an engineering degree and I am not all that much of a wrench turner either at that. The 8 is my 1st rotary so I make no claims to be a guru or even that much more than an apprentice to it. In alot of ways my ignorance is what saves me from talking about stuff that I really do not know much about. I hate to be wrong but will man up and admit or apologize if I am. Military Brat, I was. Taught to Own my ****, and I do.
Now I am Rambling!
I do not want to make enemies out of this and I do Respect YOU and JEFF and your observations. Civil debate just works better! I do own a bar and I do Drink! Like yesterday I posted under the influence, re-read and decided it was a bit useless to step into that litter-box!
Thanks for helping to tone this down!
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07-21-2007, 10:28 AM
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haha, although I helped design the SC, and am a vendor for it, I still prefer turbos.
But hey, thats just my deal, SC's are nice, but im designing my own turbo kit...just preference I suppose
But hey, thats just my deal, SC's are nice, but im designing my own turbo kit...just preference I suppose
07-21-2007, 11:35 AM
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07-21-2007, 07:21 PM
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Out of lurking, into the field of fire.
I gotta tell ya, this has got to be the most inane threads I've ever read in a forum such as this. I've been watching the Pettit SC development eagerly; I say bring it on, lets make this thing work. Maybe someone can enlighten me about Mazda Maniac's raison d'etre, because short of professing his love of young lesbianism (I, myself, am just a lesbian trapped in a man's body), pretty much all I see is a skill for pissing on a parade. If I'm wrong, somebody set me straight so I don't labor under that misconception for too long.
At any rate, I'm hungry for some real info on this system, and as soon as Pettit has a flash fix for the ECU, I'm in. Shinka, I love your car; do me a favor and shoot some video of a high speed drive-by so we can all hear those screws whine...
I gotta tell ya, this has got to be the most inane threads I've ever read in a forum such as this. I've been watching the Pettit SC development eagerly; I say bring it on, lets make this thing work. Maybe someone can enlighten me about Mazda Maniac's raison d'etre, because short of professing his love of young lesbianism (I, myself, am just a lesbian trapped in a man's body), pretty much all I see is a skill for pissing on a parade. If I'm wrong, somebody set me straight so I don't labor under that misconception for too long.
At any rate, I'm hungry for some real info on this system, and as soon as Pettit has a flash fix for the ECU, I'm in. Shinka, I love your car; do me a favor and shoot some video of a high speed drive-by so we can all hear those screws whine...
07-21-2007, 07:38 PM
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Well I have a question which I'm sure Phil would like answered. Has Pettit been able to with Int-X eliminate the Auto's 124mph speed limiter? I remember a few months back hearing how Moon was looking into it but with all the bitching and other tech spec's being tossed around I dont remember seeing any updates about this.
07-21-2007, 11:07 PM
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I know im not Cam or Ray but i might have a couple of answers for you...just really due to logistics etc and being the first commercial install..
1. CEL - is caused by the X...that would be a scott question....and i believe he has already been working on that...not sure when that will be corrected....but the reflash which a couple of people are working on will correct the issue...no need for the x at that point.
2. the TCS disable is a result of the MAF sensor
3. I spoke to Cam just yesterday regarding another matter and he informed me that all kits coming out now will have the MAF sensor plugged in...
when the MAF sensor is not hooked up, the TCS is disabled...
originally when i got my car back the TCS was disabled...now that the MAF is hooked up I am back online...
dont know a thing about the Stage III....but the 8PSI pulley should be available soon....i hope!!...
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07-22-2007, 11:49 AM
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Maybe I'm not experienced enough with this all this internetspeak to understand what a fanboy is, but if calling people on their crap makes me a "fanboy" then sign me up. I am a NY Ranger fan, that's about it. As far as the Pettit kit is concerned, I'm just the bloody consumer. I bought the kit, I'm pretty happy with it, but that's me. If people want to question things about it, that's totally healthy, and I appreciate it. There are some questions that need to be asked, and all of us consumers benefit from these questions. There's no need to be rude.
07-22-2007, 06:02 PM
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Well I have a question which I'm sure Phil would like answered. Has Pettit been able to with Int-X eliminate the Auto's 124mph speed limiter? I remember a few months back hearing how Moon was looking into it but with all the bitching and other tech spec's being tossed around I dont remember seeing any updates about this.
07-22-2007, 06:25 PM
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There have been and still are problems with the kit, but you will not find a bad word from me about the kit. I realized that when I ordered it that it was the first shipped (so I was told) and that there could be problems. Problems aside I am really enjoying the end result. Ray is the best, when others would have just walked he stuck thru it and made it run. Ray and Jeff are perfectionists and Jeff feels that every mod should just improve stock. He's not a fan of super chargers but not against them ether or why would he be working on mine? Jeff continues to be concerned about the tune and hose hook-ups. Ray PMs every couple of days to check on it's operation. Moon was helpful during the install as well in fact everyone associated with Pettit, Mazport and Paradox have been supportive and EXTREMELY helpful. Jeff has a few more refinements on pesky little things that will not go away, Ray is installing a new Radiator (of his design) and 7stock here we come.
07-22-2007, 09:51 PM
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i really don't understand why MM is getting a bad rap here. He's asked questions, that's it.
Maybe he's like me in thinking that, at least for the end user, this kit should have no bugs at all, ya know, like it came from the factory with the sc. I know I wouldn't want to go on their advertising, get my hopes all built up in anticipation of a perfectly RELIABLE and FINELY TUNED SC with perfect pre-set maps, go excitedly order the kit, and take it to be installed only to be devastated by irresolvable cel's and confusing amounts of parts or counterintuitive assembly instructions.
That "what the hell did i just do to my car" feeling isn't one that goes down any easier for costing 7k.
of course, props to pettit for even getting one out the door. maybe it should be dubbed a beta release. now we report back. and they release a finished product later.
Maybe he's like me in thinking that, at least for the end user, this kit should have no bugs at all, ya know, like it came from the factory with the sc. I know I wouldn't want to go on their advertising, get my hopes all built up in anticipation of a perfectly RELIABLE and FINELY TUNED SC with perfect pre-set maps, go excitedly order the kit, and take it to be installed only to be devastated by irresolvable cel's and confusing amounts of parts or counterintuitive assembly instructions.
That "what the hell did i just do to my car" feeling isn't one that goes down any easier for costing 7k.
of course, props to pettit for even getting one out the door. maybe it should be dubbed a beta release. now we report back. and they release a finished product later.
07-22-2007, 10:17 PM
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A fellow forum member finished their install of the SC very early this morning. Hopefully he'll post some pictures of his install sometime this week. I was lucky enough to hear him rev it over the phone, and with his exhaust/mid-pipe setup it sounded pretty damned impressive.
07-22-2007, 10:24 PM
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Well I will be heading to the Pettit Shop tomorrow morning at 6:30am I live two hours away. I was on US27 a very lonely,long and straight highway I got up to 152mph. I cam up to some traffic so I slowed down. Something did not smell right when I got home. I checked my fluids they were all fine except the S/C. There was no oil. I had just checked the oil the morining before and it was fine. I let the car cool when I added oil it leaks. So I am driving it up to the shop tomorrow. Stopping every 30min. to check and add oil to the S/C. Hopefully it is not anything major. Prior to this 140mph was the topspeed and no problems. Well wish me luck.
07-22-2007, 10:33 PM
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Well I will be heading to the Pettit Shop tomorrow morning at 6:30am I live two hours away. I was on US27 a very lonely,long and straight highway I got up to 152mph. I cam up to some traffic so I slowed down. Something did not smell right when I got home. I checked my fluids they were all fine except the S/C. There was no oil. I had just checked the oil the morining before and it was fine. I let the car cool when I added oil it leaks. So I am driving it up to the shop tomorrow. Stopping every 30min. to check and add oil to the S/C. Hopefully it is not anything major. Prior to this 140mph was the topspeed and no problems. Well wish me luck.
07-23-2007, 07:00 AM
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07-23-2007, 07:03 AM
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i really don't understand why MM is getting a bad rap here. He's asked questions, that's it.
Maybe he's like me in thinking that, at least for the end user, this kit should have no bugs at all, ya know, like it came from the factory with the sc. I know I wouldn't want to go on their advertising, get my hopes all built up in anticipation of a perfectly RELIABLE and FINELY TUNED SC with perfect pre-set maps, go excitedly order the kit, and take it to be installed only to be devastated by irresolvable cel's and confusing amounts of parts or counterintuitive assembly instructions.
That "what the hell did i just do to my car" feeling isn't one that goes down any easier for costing 7k.
of course, props to pettit for even getting one out the door. maybe it should be dubbed a beta release. now we report back. and they release a finished product later.
Maybe he's like me in thinking that, at least for the end user, this kit should have no bugs at all, ya know, like it came from the factory with the sc. I know I wouldn't want to go on their advertising, get my hopes all built up in anticipation of a perfectly RELIABLE and FINELY TUNED SC with perfect pre-set maps, go excitedly order the kit, and take it to be installed only to be devastated by irresolvable cel's and confusing amounts of parts or counterintuitive assembly instructions.
That "what the hell did i just do to my car" feeling isn't one that goes down any easier for costing 7k.
of course, props to pettit for even getting one out the door. maybe it should be dubbed a beta release. now we report back. and they release a finished product later.
if you read all of his posts....he hasnt just asked questions...hes actually blasted pettit and people...especially in the other thread that was closed..thats not appropriate behavior...constructive criticism is one thing...he went way beyond..
just my 2cents..
07-23-2007, 07:32 AM
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I'm sure you know this; if an FHP had caught you, you would probably have gone directly to jail - do not pass go - do not collect $200. Be careful man, we wouldn't want that SC to go to waste, assuming it's not already wasted.