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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
77 deg and 4.03V
Originally Posted by Nemesis8
It was also 8131 RPM and I came off throttle - still had room to climb so to speak. 3rd gear coming tonight, if I can get my car put back together somewhat. I have the interior gutted at the moment.

something for you to judge against ...
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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wow - now that is interesting - thanks.

btw Cobb Texas fixed my AP today. It turns out my dongle circuit board shorted. Odd that would happen. So, I had them upgrade it to the new version that does not require the dongle.
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
wow - now that is interesting - thanks.

btw Cobb Texas fixed my AP today. It turns out my dongle circuit board shorted. Odd that would happen. So, I had them upgrade it to the new version that does not require the dongle.
I hate it when my dongle stops working...
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 09:38 PM
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Yea, no kidding.

At least it didn't quit right in the middle of a flash and brick my ECU.
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Yea, no kidding.

At least it didn't quit right in the middle of a flash and brick my ECU.
At least the Cobb has a working recover function and will allow you to fix it..unlike another programmer that DID brick mine with no way to recover it
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 10:45 PM
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Mine quit right in the middle of flashing... It was not a fun experience.

luckily after resetting the battery I was able to connect to it again un-marry it and re-flash it. Mind you I was in the middle of no where doing the last leg of a run on the Texas-8 lol.
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 12:09 AM
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Dongle or not, it's all the same really. If the connection gets jiggled or whatever else you will have to unmarry and start all over again regardless. My OBD2 port connections are super flakey. One of these days I need to unpin and tweak them all to get a more solid connection. It's really aggravating to keep loosing the connection while logging.
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Old Aug 6, 2012 | 10:27 AM
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guess I'll check back in another 3 - 6 months ....
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Old Aug 6, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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Hang on, I just got my AP back today. Cobb has it set for pickup and FedEx missed the pickup. They called and apologized. So, on Tuesday I will run the new 2/3 log as far as I can in RPM and MPH. I just got back after a drive cycle to make sure it was working, and yes, the new version without the dongle, is by far superior on it's connection to the port and worked.
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Old Aug 6, 2012 | 09:54 PM
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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ok, wow me ....
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
ok, wow me ....
I'm sure it is #1 on his list of things to do
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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I have to go run the log again, as the dunce that I am, I forgot to reset the data log parameters tonight on my run.

233.41 G/S @ 8209 RPM @ 62.14 MPH @ 73.4F with 12.64 AFR in 2nd
233.89 G/S @ 8067 RPM @ 84.51 MPH @ 69.8F with 12.49 AFR in 3rd

Did not get MAF Voltage
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
I have to go run the log again, as the dunce that I am, I forgot to reset the data log parameters tonight on my run.

233.41 G/S @ 8209 RPM @ 62.14 MPH @ 73.4F with 12.64 AFR in 2nd
233.89 G/S @ 8067 RPM @ 84.51 MPH @ 69.8F with 12.49 AFR in 3rd

Did not get MAF Voltage
Thats pretty much what I get but I am running way richer.

Might want to ditch the RB intake and go back to stock... Just my $.02 but what do I know.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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^ You used the RB porting templates, correct?
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
^ You used the RB porting templates, correct?
Yes sir.

On the fresh build I was moving about 249 hit 255 around 9500.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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it would be about 4.06V on the OE MAF calibration map

you can make the g/s numbers read anything you want, ultimately they don't provide any useful info
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
it would be about 4.06V on the OE MAF calibration map

you can make the g/s numbers read anything you want, ultimately they don't provide any useful info
If you didn't manipulate the calibration the G/S would read the same? Its just a translation of volts, similar to temperature from a sensor.

You could either read it in G/S or volts it wouldn't matter. Its like saying Yes or Si, they mean the same thing just different languages.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shadycrew31
If you didn't manipulate the calibration the G/S would read the same? Its just a translation of volts, similar to temperature from a sensor.

You could either read it in G/S or volts it wouldn't matter. Its like saying Yes or Si, they mean the same thing just different languages.
That was the point..the MAF voltage is the raw data...and the flow # is manipulated by the MAF calibration
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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For the purposes of making a comparison .Assuming maf tube design is similar, Maf readings on an N/A engine are a lot more trustworthy than those from a turbo engine ..... Just sayin' ......
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 10:28 PM
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For the purposes of making a comparison .Assuming maf tube design is similar, Maf readings on an N/A engine are a lot more trustworthy than those from a turbo engine ..... Just sayin' ......
In a lot better part of the curve so to speak ...in a FI engine the readings get into the steep part of the curve that has less resolution
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
That was the point..the MAF voltage is the raw data...and the flow # is manipulated by the MAF calibration
Oh I thought Teams point was the G/S mean absolutely nothing and are worthless bits of data. when in fact if left unmolested they report the same data just translated differently.

Anyways no point in debating it, you all win I know nothing.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 10:39 PM
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In a lot better part of the curve so to speak ...in a FI engine the readings get into the steep part of the curve that has less resolution
True - but also : almost every FI setup i've come across has other issues relating to boost leaks or fuxed up pipework .
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by shadycrew31
Oh I thought Teams point was the G/S mean absolutely nothing and are worthless bits of data. when in fact if left unmolested they report the same data just translated differently.

Anyways no point in debating it, you all win I know nothing.
If you read between the lines there is always information there...just have to filter the delivery

As for the other thing....Dude...gotta work on the self esteem...who cares what anyone thinks
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 10:56 PM
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^ lol
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