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Old 12-30-2010, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Jeff works as hard as he is going to, be as amenable as he ever has, and continue being the same person he always has. Some will appreciate him, some will not.

I am one person who does and I don't give a **** what anyone thinks of me for it.
QFT !!!

+1 on the appreciation "side" of things
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this thread has reached epic proportions, it has brought this site's founder out of the shadows!

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Originally Posted by dannobre
You needed to post this for what reason? So people would know that you are pissed/wronged/dunno??

PM means private...why tell US? Especially in Bold
At the time he was viewing this thread (according to his public profile) so I wanted to alert him to check his pm box. Not everyone checks their pm's constantly.

And like I am continuously saying on here..if you are a vendor..or acting like one...keep your nose out of others in similar situations.....

I comes across as self-serving and biased
I am not a registered vendor on this forum. I do not advertise anything here. I do not sell anything here. I do not compete with MM in any of his business ventures, I have no self interest to serve by calling him out. Please explain how you think I will benefit from doing so.
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
At the time he was viewing this thread (according to his public profile) so I wanted to alert him to check his pm box. Not everyone checks their pm's constantly.



I am not a registered vendor on this forum. I do not advertise anything here. I do not sell anything here. I do not compete with MM in any of his business ventures, I have no self interest to serve by calling him out. Please explain how you think I will benefit from doing so.

WOW....

He is a MOD...I bet he checks his PM's

As to the other...well I'm going to leave that for everyone to make there own opinion
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Originally Posted by ninjajim4
see here again, is the same contradiction. on one hand you're posting about "time dilatation" and how responsive you actually are and then on the other here you are again with the soup **** routine. let's pick a lane.
I don't see the contradiction.
You follow the directions, you get your product.
You don't follow the directions, you get the "Soup ****" treatment.


Originally Posted by ninjajim4
if i see guys here posting MM bad guy threads that they got a $99 refund and a note from you saying they're too stupid for your services and have a nice day, i think we'd all have a good laugh together
I've actually done that several times. I generally let the customer have a second chance at getting it right.
Old 12-30-2010, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
WOW....

He is a MOD...I bet he checks his PM's
Odd then, that I have received no reply yet.

As to the other...well I'm going to leave that for everyone to make there own opinion
I posed a serious and legitimate question to you. It's cool if you don't want to answer it.
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dude, I like ya. But even I think you're becoming pretty childish
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
Odd then, that I have received no reply yet.



I posed a serious and legitimate question to you. It's cool if you don't want to answer it.

You seriously want an answer to that......

Do you sell RX-7 and RX-8 related stuff...rebuilds and other services?

Would you benefit if your name got out there in a potentially positive way? By being a forum advocate for the downtrodden MM Tuning customers?

What are your other "forum" relationships like?

Do you want me to expound on this any more....I thought that I would leave it simple...and not bash on you personally...but hey...You opened it and you never know what will get stuck in there now

Why don't you leave the Jeff bashing to his customers
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
Odd then, that I have received no reply yet.
It's been what...90 minutes or so since you sent your PM? (basing this off Dan's reply time since your original post is gone)

I think we need to manage some expectations here.
Is it reasonable to expect a reply in less then an hour? 90 minutes? A day?
Can we assume that maybe Al has other things to do whether those things are forum related or not?

I think we often forget that the moderators / Admins here are non paid volunteers and sometimes they aren't always around, sometimes they won't get back to you as quickly as you'd like, sometimes they might even ignore you for a day or two if they don't feel like responding right away. After all, we don't pay them nearly enough to have to sit at their keyboard all day and be at our every beck and call.

Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
I am not a registered vendor on this forum. I do not advertise anything here. I do not sell anything here.
c'mon RR, we all know better then that. You offer an engine rebuilding service. While you might not publicly promote your services via FS threads (and I don't blame you because Vendor fees are not cheap around here), there are enough subtle hints so as to draw business your way.
"Engine Builder" user title: I'm sure that gets people's attention.

Even your sticky thread (which is excellent btw) has clues as to services you offer so please don't preach that you don't sell anything on here because I'm sure if someone saw your thread and came to you, you probably wouldn't turn them away.


Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
This also assists customers of mine who wish to send in their engine block for rebuild. Although I do offer a "longblock" service whereby customers can send their complete engine (as shown below), the general industry standard for non-mazda rebuild shops is for the customer to supply or exchange a bare shortblock, which is what you will end up with at the end of this writeup.
There is something definitely implied there, I'll let you guys figure that one out.
Old 12-30-2010, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
You seriously want an answer to that......

Do you sell RX-7 and RX-8 related stuff...rebuilds and other services?
Engines and mechanical work. No new parts. No aftermarket/performance parts. No tuning services. Mine and MM's fields do not overlap whatsoever as nearly as I can tell.

Would you benefit if your name got out there in a potentially positive way? By being a forum advocate for the downtrodden MM Tuning customers?
No, because I do not offer a single service that MM does.

What are your other "forum" relationships like?
In terms of rotary related forums, I am an active member of no others at this point in time. It appears this one is heading in the same direction.

Do you want me to expound on this any more....I thought that I would leave it simple...and not bash on you personally...but hey...You opened it and you never know what will get stuck in there now

Why don't you leave the Jeff bashing to his customers
Do your worst.
Old 12-30-2010, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
It's been what...90 minutes or so since you sent your PM? (basing this off Dan's reply time since your original post is gone)

I think we need to manage some expectations here.
Is it reasonable to expect a reply in less then an hour? 90 minutes? A day?
Can we assume that maybe Al has other things to do whether those things are forum related or not?

I think we often forget that the moderators / Admins here are non paid volunteers and sometimes they aren't always around, sometimes they won't get back to you as quickly as you'd like, sometimes they might even ignore you for a day or two if they don't feel like responding right away. After all, we don't pay them nearly enough to have to sit at their keyboard all day and be at our every beck and call.
Look, I don't give a rat's *** about the PM. Dan is the one who started that conversation (for no apparent reason other than to stir the pot, as best I can tell). I think we're arguing over minutia here, so I'll just drop this part.


c'mon RR, we all know better then that. You offer an engine rebuilding service. While you might not publicly promote your services via FS threads (and I don't blame you because Vendor fees are not cheap around here), there are enough subtle hints so as to draw business your way.
"Engine Builder" user title: I'm sure that gets people's attention.

Even your sticky thread (which is excellent btw) has clues as to services you offer so please don't preach that you don't sell anything on here because I'm sure if someone saw your thread and came to you, you probably wouldn't turn them away.

There is something definitely implied there, I'll let you guys figure that one out.
All of which has exactly squat to do with the subject of this thread and his business. There is no overlap. You could just as easily accuse a coke vendor of serving his own interests by posting in a thread about MM.

Seriously, maybe I'm dense today, but I'm not following you guys' logic here. Let's say you're right, and follow the chain of events:

1) MM does tuning transaction with his customer
2) MM's customer posts negative thread
3) I post in MM's thread
4) I am known to offer a non-competing service through other channels
5) MM's current and future potential customers read my posts, sees that I have nothing to do with tuning services or custom performance parts.
6) ????
7) price of rice in China rises 0.4%
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Originally Posted by dannobre
Would you benefit if your name got out there in a potentially positive way? By being a forum advocate for the downtrodden MM Tuning customers?
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
No, because I do not offer a single service that MM does.
wow, really? ya think playing the poor folk advocate/champion poses no benefit to you and spreading word of your business character, just because you dont have the same business as MM?

guess I've misjudged you for a while
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wow, really? ya think playing the poor folk advocate/champion poses no benefit to you and spreading word of your business character, just because you dont have the same business as MM?
That is what I think.

So you actually believe that by posting here, MM's disgruntled current and potential future customers may say "well, f*** that, I'm not going to get my car tuned by MM after all. But, come to think of it, I think I will have RR build me an engine instead"?

Really?

Logic...how does it work?

guess I've misjudged you for a while
Look man, I'm not really looking to make enemies, but I don't get where you're acting like you know me, have assessed my character in the past, and are now in a position to determine that I've "let you down" as it were. We've never met or even talked in a non-text medium. I don't understand why you're acting like I'm your best friend who is dating your ex-gf or something. I'm not in the habit of portraying myself to be something I'm not, or building up people's expectations of me. If they do that on their own, it's something I can't help. I guess I just don't understand where you're coming from, but nevertheless if I've somehow failed to live up to your personal expectations of me I apologize.
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This definitely deserves a big TeamRX8........WOW
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expectations, let me down, enemies, etc... not at all. just what I said, nothing more or less.

Social engineering, intentional or not, you appear to practice it heavily. I won't prod anymore, you answered my questions fairly and politely.(which fwiw is more than some are capable of when questioned )
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GIVE IT UP WILL YOU...Please.

As I see it RR can post what he likes (withing reason), HE went to the trouble of detailing a VERY GOOD Rebuild thread which is stickied, and so what if in time that "May" give him some business, it also brings much needed traffic to this forum .

He has also help MANY guys here with REAL repair advise at no charge, in fact much more constructive advise than the many seat warmers we see.

Or those that appear to "think" this is an 'exclusive forum' for their Gang or Club, frankly I am fed up with seeing it.

IMO there are too many chiefs and not enough Indians, we NEED more Indians!!

Peace!
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
I do not advertise anything here. I do not sell anything here.
While you certainly seem to do everything you can to dissuade people from using your services when you make posts like this:
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
There are chamfers cut into the side of the rotors which must align with the exhaust ports to facilitate exhaust gases exiting the engine. Reversing the rotors means these chamfers will not align any more.
Then following up with a post like this:
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
You can adapt an opposite rotor to work by adding the missing bevels on the correct spot to line up with the exhaust ports.
Or just confidence-inspiring stuff like this:
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
I have not actually measured clearance on the engines I have torn down, half the time the side seals fall out of the rotor before you can even get it out of the engine anyway. The ones I have checked by hand, feel about 5-10 thousandths to me.
But one needn't look too far to see that you do advertise your services on this site regularly and with intent to appear as an official vendor.
Besides the drop-tag under your avatar claiming to be an "engine builder" there is also your profile:
About RotaryResurrection
Biography
engine builder
Location
Morristown, Tn (east of Knoxville)
Interests
work, work, work
Occupation
rotary engine building
And the numerous price quotes like:
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
Best case scenario price for a shortblock rebuild if all your major components are reuseable is $1400. Plus shipping both ways if applicable. ...

If the car is brought to me like this one and I do the remove/teardown/assembly/install then this adds $1000 to the cost of the engine block rebuild itself, whatever that winds up being.
and
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
As for cost, I got all of the parts necessary for the swap for around $2500-2800. The engine could have been run as-is, but I of course chose to go through it being that I am a builder and I never trust used engines in my own cars. As such I will not really include rebuild/refresh time and cost.

IF someone were to bring all the parts to me and ask me to do the work for them (the swap alone, not a rebuild) then I would charge them around a grand to do it.
Or just general quotes about your business:
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
I do have a manual-to-auto conversion package for sale cheap, if anyone is interested...
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
when people like me can build and warranty an engine with photo documentation of what is inside for less than 1/3 the price, why would you buy one like this that has undetermined origins and has sat for an undetermined amount of time?
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
I recently rebuilt an engine for a customer
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
I normally average 44-50 engines per year which breaks down to right at 1 per week, accounting for 2-3 vacation weeks and holidays. We are now in the 6th week of the year and I have done 2 engines thus far.
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
The only thing keeping me afloat since October has been small part sales on ebay stores which has done well beyond my expectations, thankfully.
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
I spent probably 4-6 grand this year on renesis core engines and internal parts to stock my shelf in anticipation of the coming need for replacement parts.
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
I can already do the job for half of mazda's cost to begin with
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
Most of my work is actually not local...in fact excluding the one "distributor" that I use to sell my engines through (who is local to me), I do 90% of my work for customers outside the state of TN.
I could go on, but it would be gratuitous at this point and I leave that sort of crap to you.

So, the point you seem to be missing is - as a vendor, even if it is only a perception, you have no leeway to come into a "bad-guy" thread about me and say anything at all, ever.

(BTW - I love how you perceive your being forcibly ejected from various forums as said forums going "down the drain". lol)

EDIT - LOL!! So now you suddenly drop the title under your avatar and change your profile (less than two hours after I posted this)? Why? Just so you can bitch in these threads? You really think that isn't stupendously obvious?

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Come on ASH.....

There are a lot of people that contribute to this forum out of the goodness of their heart....You are one of them..........

That doesn't mean that if you said something that is of questionable fibre that you shouldn't expect others to call you on it.

I definitely get triggered by this issue...and it isn't the first time that I have brought it up on this forum in regards to the same issue, just different players.

I am definitely done.........back to the regularly scheduled programming

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Paul summed it up I believe. We all run our businesses as we see fit. As a consumer, do your research, know the risks,and make an educated decision and live with it.

This is a public forum and I believe we can/should all voice our opinions without getting personal. I have been guilty of getting upset and being a nasty judgmental person myself on and off the forum and I regret that, so I TRY to think before I post/talk and let **** go when something I read pisses me off. Sometimes we just have to agree to disagree.

This forum is a great place with a wealth of information. You just have to take the good with the bad.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I don't see the contradiction.
You follow the directions, you get your product.
You don't follow the directions, you get the "Soup ****" treatment.
see this is where i disagree. THIS is the soup **** treatment:

Originally Posted by ninjajim4
the soup **** sends em packing, he doesn't charge em for the soup.
you seem to engage in something in between, neither putting your pride before your money or vice versa, which again, i don't think is the best or most admirable way to go about things. when i've said something to that effect, you've in turn disregarded it and said instead i have no idea HOW you do business (and i'm a troll), despite you generally stating you don't really give a s**t about dumb people who can't follow the directions (which i don't have a problem with, either).

but ultimately, this is the truth of things:

Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Paul summed it up I believe. We all run our businesses as we see fit. As a consumer, do your research, know the risks,and make an educated decision and live with it.

This is a public forum and I believe we can/should all voice our opinions without getting personal. I have been guilty of getting upset and being a nasty judgmental person myself on and off the forum and I regret that, so I TRY to think before I post/talk and let **** go when something I read pisses me off. Sometimes we just have to agree to disagree.

This forum is a great place with a wealth of information. You just have to take the good with the bad.
wholeheartedly agree.

happy new year, gang
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Originally Posted by ninjajim4
you seem to engage in something in between, neither putting your pride before your money or vice versa, which again, i don't think is the best or most admirable way to go about things. when i've said something to that effect, you've in turn disregarded it and said instead i have no idea HOW you do business (and i'm a troll), despite you generally stating you don't really give a s**t about dumb people who can't follow the directions (which i don't have a problem with, either).
OK - I guess this is the problem: I have absolutely NO idea what you just said there.

Let me clarify what I THINK your points are and you can go from there.

1) I do give a sh*t about "dumb" people who can't follow directions. If I didn't care, I wouldn't give them a path to getting it right. Understand that I don't think the people that get it wrong are dumb. Maybe that is where the misunderstanding is. I think the people that get it wrong are either lazy or so sure of themselves that they feel that following the directions is beneath them.
Oddly, the "dumb" people are the ones that tend to get it right.
2) Pride and money? I'm not really sure where all that fits into it since there is very little money involved (certainly not enough to actually do it for business/profit reasons and, only if "pride" is a synonym for "obligation" - both long and short-term - does "pride" come into the equation.
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Jeff, can you please update me on the status of my refund. You claimed the Accessport is on its way back to Cobb on the 13th of November 2010. Its 2011, where is my refund? Please stop ignoring my emails, I try my best not to post on forum to get your attention but this seems to be the only way to reach you. Please respond.
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Originally Posted by yiksing
Jeff, can you please update me on the status of my refund. You claimed the Accessport is on its way back to Cobb on the 13th of November 2010. Its 2011, where is my refund? Please stop ignoring my emails, I try my best not to post on forum to get your attention but this seems to be the only way to reach you. Please respond.
I haven't ignored any of your e-mails.
You were sent a response in the middle of November explaining that you cannot receive a refund through any other means than the manner that you purchased the item. If you pay through Google, I can't refund the money to you any other way than through Google (for several reasons, not limited to seller protections and cost).
That was the last I heard from you. Cobb processed the refund to me on December 8th. That is as far as I can go until I get the right information from you.

You need to send a refund request through the purchase system by submitting through your purchase receipt.
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you cannot receive a refund through any other means than the manner that you purchased the item. If you pay through Google, I can't refund the money to you any other way than through Google (for several reasons, not limited to seller protections and cost).


You need to send a refund request through the purchase system by submitting through your purchase receipt.
Is this option available to ALL customers with outstanding orders?
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Is this option available to ALL customers with outstanding orders?
Nope. No refunds or exchanges.
Cobb arranged this one on their own with this customer directly because his ROM wasn't supported, even though they claimed it was.

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