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Old 02-23-2004, 02:52 PM
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Take it from somebody who has both...

The S2000 is faster, hands down. I would say the only thing the 8 has on the S2k would be the launch but with the IRS setup the way it is, you get stupid wheel hop. If they would fix that then the 8 would launch stock for stock (The S2000 Pressure Plate is very weak and not able to launch at peak horsepower without spinning the clutch) But then again with a better pressure plate the S2000 would have a much better launch then the 8 ever could.

So in short, The S2000 is faster, I'll have 1/4 and 1/8th mile results when the tracks open back up.

But as far as feel goes, the 00-03 S2000s are alot more of a sports car feel and I have no doubt in my mind, although I bet the numbers are close, on the Skidpad the S2k would hold up better also. The RX8 is more of a smooth daily driver car.

Don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about because I'm saying this from first hand experiance.


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Thanks for the data...

What I do not understand, is why people want to compare a two seater and a four seater....

Both have there place... as I have said in the past, the best comparison for the RX-8 is most likely the BMW 325.
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Honistly, I'd put the RX8 in a class of its own... Its just such an out there unique car. Until we get some good hard stats on the thing I wouldn't even bother to try to compare it.
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Agreed....

By the way, while the engine is put in a class to compete with the 2.5 to 3.0 liter entries... I just trounces the BMW 325, 330, and comes in dead tied t the M3 according to the BBC Top Gear site.

Brits are really funny when they compare the 8 with the 350Z...
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K. Gotta add my own experience in here. I'm not much into the drag scene though it's still hella cool. I'm into the road racing. Usually there's one or two out at the track as well and I gotta be completely honest. The two are pretty evenly matched as far as handling goes mainly because the Honda wieghs less. Also, you have to figure that the driver has a lot to do with it on a road course but I've passed those same few in the straights and out braked them into the corner. It's not a quick pass mind you. The longer gears and higher redline make it happen. By the time the S2000 hits neer the end of its torque curve it's time to shift while my RPMs are still rising through the peak of the curve.

either way it's too much fun and I don't care who's in front or behind me, I'm still racing. And the S2000 guys as well as most other drivers usually ask for a ride around the track once they've seen me closing in on them through a turn from the rearview mirror. In short the S2000 and RX8 make for a pretty good battle on the course.

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THE RX8 WOULD EAT THE S2K ALIVE ON A CURV COURSE ALL DAY LONG. AND THATS THE BEST THING ABOUT THE 8
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Originally posted by IZIXRX8
THE RX8 WOULD EAT THE S2K ALIVE ON A CURV COURSE ALL DAY LONG. AND THATS THE BEST THING ABOUT THE 8
Someone has been hanging out with Smoke_weed a little too much...
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
Someone has been hanging out with Smoke_weed a little too much...
Hmmm, I just got back from the track, and WOW, there was an S2000 there on slicks.

I wasn't on slicks, or anything close to slicks, and it's a very twisty and technical track.

I don't smoke weed, so you can fill in the rest.
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I can't belive people are trying to compare the 2.

The S2K is a real sports car.

The RX-8 is a sports-SEDAN.
The RX-8 has 190 HP and is more of a girls car. My girlfriend loves hers.


ps. all the looks you get...its from people looking at a new car they have never seen...not going "wow".

350Z > girl car

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Originally posted by Dustin4u
I can't belive people are trying to compare the 2.

The S2K is a real sports car.

The RX-8 has 190 HP and is more of a girls car. My girlfriend loves hers.
Wow, that's a great post! You have any additional information to add?

Such as, your GF possibly drives an automatic?

How is the S2000 a real sports car? You mean a real sports daily driver enthusiast car? Maybe you need to define "sports car"?

Glad your GF loves hers, it's definately not the version that I drive (btw, look up the manual gearbox engine spec, lol)
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I see you edited your post:

Originally posted by Dustin4u
I can't belive people are trying to compare the 2.

The S2K is a real sports car.

The RX-8 is a sports-SEDAN.
The RX-8 has 190 HP and is more of a girls car. My girlfriend loves hers.


ps. all the looks you get...its from people looking at a new car they have never seen...not going "wow".

350Z > girl car

I still don't get what you are trying to say? Looks? Who cares, save it for the clubs. I'd go on and on about girls checking out the 8, but that's way off topic!

Can you define... in your words... sports-SEDAN. What does that mean to you?
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Actually she drives a manual.

Are you telling me, you have the only RX-8 pushing out 238 HP?
Last time i checked, Mazda lied to all of there customers and your lucky if your getting 190.

My girlfriends car is a leman. They also lied about the gas mileage. Wish she would demand to get her money back. But there's no other girlie cars she likes. Ultimately, its her car.

Again you can't compare the 2 cars. Thats just stupid. Please compare this car to a RSX..not a freaking S2K rofl.

The Rx-8 is a sporty family sedan. Not a sports car.

A sports car with less then 200HP? I don't think so. Its a girl car, just like a Miata and a Z3 BMW.
Its perfect for my girlfriend and she enjoys it.

When i drive it, i hide my head as a joke as i go by my neighbours...they all laugh because they get the joke.

Yes all the looks are people going "neat, i;ve never seen one of those".
NOT " wow awesome car".

Your friends and family telling you "oh my god, what a awesome car" there being nice. Its a girlie Saturn wannabe.

I realize you won't agree because your a old man, and you own a girl car and don't want to admit it.
There's nothing wrong with owning ,a girlie sport family sedan with less then 200 HP if you enjoy it. Thats all that couts in the long run.



I'm not going to win a arguement on a RX-8 board and i'm well aware of that. Most people here own one....every 3rd post in the general forum is about "how do i fix this and that", mind you but hey.

Go to a sports car forum like my350z.com and type in rx-8. You will see real results.
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Dustin, what exactly is your problem? Are you just here to be a jerk or what? You've proven you hate the car (just read EVERY LAST ONE of your posts) so do you have nothing better to do than post about it on here? The reason there isn't any kind of crap like that when you search "350Z" on here is because we don't tolerate that kind of crap. We try to make sure everyone posts without flinging insults at each other, and when it DOES happen, posts get closed pretty damn quick. What, exactly, are you trying to prove?
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I'm sure you've read all the 350Z letters to Nissan.

It's unfortunate many people don't know how to get the most out of the rotary, I have no problem going 70 and dropping to 3rd gear, I have no problem keeping S2000's and 350's at bay.

Looks like you need to grow up anyway Dustin and move out of your Mom's house.
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I don't know about the RX-8 being "girlie" but I do know what girls do! Girls do things like go to forums and shoot off their mouth about how much better their stuff is than someone elses. Men don't go around trying to prove they have the bigger "johnson". There is nothing for the RX-8 to prove. Pretty much all of the top magazines (whether you respect their opinion or not) do the proving for the RX-8 when compared to the likes of the 350Z and the S2K. So to individuals who don't like the RX-8 if you don't like the car leave it at that. Please do not come in here insulting the owners of this car!
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Yeah Dustin, you quote one number hp wise for the auto, then say it's a manual. I don't get it. The manual does not have the HP you quoted, LOL.

You are obviously here to troll. Get the facts straight or be gone. Enough said.


FWIW, I was thinking different car, even got a trade in for $26.5 for my sport MSRP $28. After the track day and things loosening up a little bit, I'm keeping it!!!!!

I drove my boss's new Porsche Cabby today, thinking it would impress me..... I think I'll keep the 8 at this point!
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wow what is with some 350 owners......i've been checking the my350z.com forums lately and it definitely seems that they either bitch about their own cars or tend to make fun of other's cars
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I'd have to actually say that the people on this site make fun of more cars than any other sites around. He's stating an opinion just like you all do about other cars being crap. Seems to me like every car but an 8 is crap or not good enough. There are some big times problems here. You all should come down to earth and stop fooling around. YOu are low 15 second cars to high 14 second cars that don't get good gas mileage. Plus there seems to be a good amount of problems with the reliability of the 8's i hear too from many dealers. B4 you make fun of Chevy's, nissans, etc, take a long hard look at what you got.
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Originally posted by th1rd3y3
wow what is with some 350 owners......i've been checking the my350z.com forums lately and it definitely seems that they either bitch about their own cars or tend to make fun of other's cars
I hate to say it but the RX-8 is talked about negatively in more than just the 350 forum. I went to a BMW forum at one point (don't ask me to find that forum again) and a few of those guys were bad mouthing the car (and I'm talking about 325 owners not M3). Some people really do seem to equate their car to their manhood and it's sad if you ask me.
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Originally posted by 04ls1vette
B4 you make fun of Chevy's, nissans, etc, take a long hard look at what you got.
I've got what I've always wanted...well, not fully but close. And as I've been saying for a long time...I don't think we come off at cars necessarily, but @ the comments from owners of various makes/models. That's all...people **** me off, not a car I don't own. Hope that's clear enough.
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Originally posted by 04ls1vette
I'd have to actually say that the people on this site make fun of more cars than any other sites around. He's stating an opinion just like you all do about other cars being crap. Seems to me like every car but an 8 is crap or not good enough. There are some big times problems here. You all should come down to earth and stop fooling around. YOu are low 15 second cars to high 14 second cars that don't get good gas mileage. Plus there seems to be a good amount of problems with the reliability of the 8's i hear too from many dealers. B4 you make fun of Chevy's, nissans, etc, take a long hard look at what you got.
Okay, I've seen SOME people here knocking other cars just like there are SOME at other sites knocking other cars. As far as this site being the worst, it's probably not any different than a lot of the other sites. The cars I see talked about negatively here most are probably the WRX, STI, and Evo (and I defend those cars every now and then).

As for the cars performance, we all realize the car is not the fastest but if you look at what others have to say about it you would think RX-8s are in the league of Toyota Corollas in the 1/4 mile. The car is not slow, it's just slower than some of the other performance based cars that were introduced in the past couple of years.

Now for your claim of lack of reliability. Please elaborate! I haven't heard of a whole boat load of breakdowns or anything like that. I also cannot claim that I have suffered any reliability issues with my RX-8 (that is with a little over 7000miles on it).

But other than your thoughts about the individuals in this forum what do you think of the cars?

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Originally posted by Hornet

But other than the individuals in this forum what do you think of the cars?
You want people that don't hit this forum, to answer a question you posted in the forum?

How is that possible?

Nice one with the Corrolla comment

Remember the topic here, "RX8 vs S2000". Keep it on track!!
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Originally posted by syntrix
You want people that don't hit this forum, to answer a question you posted in the forum?

How is that possible?

Nice one with the Corrolla comment

Remember the topic here, "RX8 vs S2000". Keep it on track!!
Sorry, I should have worded that better. I wanted to know what 04ls1vette's thoughts were about the cars in question instead of his thoughts about the members of this forum.

I personally like what the S2000 offers but I'm just not too keen on 2 seaters these days.

BTW, I'll try to stay on topic if possible.....
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this thread is funny. as far as performance, I have had more than a few run ins with my friends G35C, and we were neck and neck from 40-80mph.
Look at the recent test from Motorweek I think?? Had the latest 350Z RX8 comparison. The 8 won, but was .6 secs slower in the 1/4. So the car does hang in there with the more powerful cars. Most of these morons that post negative things about the 8 have spent little or no time in the car.
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My opinion is i really don't like or dislike the Rx-8. I think it's overpriced for what it is and that for the times it runs Mazda should be able to achieve better gas mileage. Not a bad looking car in all.

The fact is that people from other sites are coming here and lookign at this crap about there cars that people like THE BAller and others are saying. It just isn't true and other sites are not as bad as this. Go to a GM site and we hardly have anything negative to say about other cars besides the Ford rivarly which is in good fun. People from other sites are going on about it. Really needs to stop. If you don't have anything good to say then don't. Thats why so many people come on here talking crap.
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