RX 8 vs. S2000 ???
12-14-2003, 07:53 PM
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For a guy with a WRX, you sure spend alot of time on the RX8 Forum with over 1100 posts, I guess living in Milwaukee there is nothing else to do!!!! I understand!!! Don't worry I'm not mad at you, if I lived there I would either be on the internet or drink wine till oblivion!!! and i guess you do both!!
12-14-2003, 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by tommy12g
For a guy with a WRX, you sure spend alot of time on the RX8 Forum with over 1100 posts, I guess living in Milwaukee there is nothing else to do!!!! I understand!!! Don't worry I'm not mad at you, if I lived there I would either be on the internet or drink wine till oblivion!!! and i guess you do both!!
For a guy with a WRX, you sure spend alot of time on the RX8 Forum with over 1100 posts, I guess living in Milwaukee there is nothing else to do!!!! I understand!!! Don't worry I'm not mad at you, if I lived there I would either be on the internet or drink wine till oblivion!!! and i guess you do both!!
12-14-2003, 08:20 PM
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Granted the EVO is faster than the RX8, but thats it? its a cheap looking car with none of the extras that the RX8 has end of discussion...
12-14-2003, 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by tommy12g
Granted the EVO is faster than the RX8, but thats it? its a cheap looking car with none of the extras that the RX8 has end of discussion...
Granted the EVO is faster than the RX8, but thats it? its a cheap looking car with none of the extras that the RX8 has end of discussion...
12-14-2003, 08:34 PM
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"They share alot more then the shell.Interior of an evo looks like my 01 taurus company car.Mazda coulda made a fast **** box but they didnt thank god.I for one would rather mod up a nicer car to get the speed i want.Im not knocking evo or sti's to each his own i coulda bought either of them.Only other car that i think can compare to a rx-8 is a g35c which i almost bought,but the 8's styling won in the end.Msrp to msrp ill take the 4500 difference and get about 40 more hp with mods and get the best of both worlds"
Could not have been stated any clearer....I too see the coupe and the 8 as the only two in their class for what they provide and chose the 8 becasue it did not look like any other car and the money saved will translate directly into hp down the road...
One other thing, what is up with other type car owners hanging here?? Someone explain please....
"They share alot more then the shell.Interior of an evo looks like my 01 taurus company car.Mazda coulda made a fast **** box but they didnt thank god.I for one would rather mod up a nicer car to get the speed i want.Im not knocking evo or sti's to each his own i coulda bought either of them.Only other car that i think can compare to a rx-8 is a g35c which i almost bought,but the 8's styling won in the end.Msrp to msrp ill take the 4500 difference and get about 40 more hp with mods and get the best of both worlds"
Could not have been stated any clearer....I too see the coupe and the 8 as the only two in their class for what they provide and chose the 8 becasue it did not look like any other car and the money saved will translate directly into hp down the road...
One other thing, what is up with other type car owners hanging here?? Someone explain please....
12-14-2003, 08:37 PM
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Wut da F Y'all lookin' @!
Originally posted by tommy12g
Granted the EVO is faster than the RX8, but thats it? its a cheap looking car with none of the extras that the RX8 has end of discussion...
Granted the EVO is faster than the RX8, but thats it? its a cheap looking car with none of the extras that the RX8 has end of discussion...
12-15-2003, 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by revhappy
Extras? These are supposed to be sports/sporty cars? Maybe, you should have got an Escalade and enjoyed all the pimping features!
Extras? These are supposed to be sports/sporty cars? Maybe, you should have got an Escalade and enjoyed all the pimping features!
12-16-2003, 10:28 PM
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The only car I might have bias against is those darn Mustangs (although I might find myself being strangely drawn to a Cobra every now and then).
Just want to say that I've beating an S2000. I guess it all depends on the driver. Next race... a WRX
12-17-2003, 08:14 AM
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me an my best friend just had a race in his '03 s2000 , the s starts to pull from the 8 when it hit vtec. we race fom 5-120mph and he got me by almost one car length. later we exchange cars, and the results are the same. conclusion: the s is a slightly faster car than our 8. i had 6120 mi on the 8, he had 7800 mi on his s. cant wait to install cz ecu adaptor in my 8, i m sure this time when he hit vtec, the 8 wil be pulling.
12-17-2003, 04:34 PM
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n e of yall herd of the rs version of the evo coming out? no wing and black door handles, but same engine and price sticker to go at 28,000. but going back to the original topic i would have to go with the s2000 if it were stock to stock.
12-17-2003, 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Intrigue 8
n e of yall herd of the rs version of the evo coming out? no wing and black door handles, but same engine and price sticker to go at 28,000. but going back to the original topic i would have to go with the s2000 if it were stock to stock.
n e of yall herd of the rs version of the evo coming out? no wing and black door handles, but same engine and price sticker to go at 28,000. but going back to the original topic i would have to go with the s2000 if it were stock to stock.
12-17-2003, 09:44 PM
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I, JUST WANTED TO ADD MY 2 CENTS TO THIS TOPIC OF THE COMPARING OF THE CARS. I OWN A RX8 AND I HAVE RAN IT AGAINST THE EVO ON I35 IN KELLIN TX, AFTER WE GOT UP TO 130 MPH I WAS ABOUT TWO CARS AHEAD AND ONCE I HIT 155 THE EVO WAS STILL TRYING TO PASS ME BUT COULD NOT, SO I WOULD SAY THAT THE RX8 ON THE RUN WELL BEAT THE EVO, IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO PUSH IT TO IT'S LIMITS.
THIS IS ONLY TO STATE WHICH CAR TO ME IS FASTER NOT A KILL!
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THIS IS ONLY TO STATE WHICH CAR TO ME IS FASTER NOT A KILL!
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12-17-2003, 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by gam
I, JUST WANTED TO ADD MY 2 CENTS TO THIS TOPIC OF THE COMPARING OF THE CARS. I OWN A RX8 AND I HAVE RAN IT AGAINST THE EVO ON I35 IN KELLIN TX, AFTER WE GOT UP TO 130 MPH I WAS ABOUT TWO CARS AHEAD AND ONCE I HIT 155 THE EVO WAS STILL TRYING TO PASS ME BUT COULD NOT, SO I WOULD SAY THAT THE RX8 ON THE RUN WELL BEAT THE EVO, IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO PUSH IT TO IT'S LIMITS.
THIS IS ONLY TO STATE WHICH CAR TO ME IS FASTER NOT A KILL!
GAMRX804
I, JUST WANTED TO ADD MY 2 CENTS TO THIS TOPIC OF THE COMPARING OF THE CARS. I OWN A RX8 AND I HAVE RAN IT AGAINST THE EVO ON I35 IN KELLIN TX, AFTER WE GOT UP TO 130 MPH I WAS ABOUT TWO CARS AHEAD AND ONCE I HIT 155 THE EVO WAS STILL TRYING TO PASS ME BUT COULD NOT, SO I WOULD SAY THAT THE RX8 ON THE RUN WELL BEAT THE EVO, IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO PUSH IT TO IT'S LIMITS.
THIS IS ONLY TO STATE WHICH CAR TO ME IS FASTER NOT A KILL!
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12-18-2003, 07:30 PM
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That wouldn't shock me completely as the EVO is geared for acceleration at lower speeds plus AWD is always a hinderance in high speed races. Of course, I don't condone street racing at 155 MPH!
Point is you folks continue to compare the stock first year version of RX8 with customixed Imprezza and Lancer vehicles.... You want to compare AWD with RWD, turbo to non-turbo, and more... I am glad you like your vehicles.... I like mine too and I will be very interested comparing a turbo-charged AWD RX8 when the factory builds one.
12-18-2003, 10:23 PM
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i've been lookin at this thread for a while and had to register just for this...
1. someone quoted the S2000 as being a 2.2 litre engine....thats .2 litres too much my friend
2. the evo has the plastic interior etc because it isn't meant to be a luxury car etc(we've established that) but to make the car lighter....who pays attention to those details when driving...not me
3. the evos are not lancers....try taking a lancer yourself and build it to an evo...you may get it to look like an evo...sound like an evo..but not be half the beast and evo is...don't believe me?...see ppl who have tried....
4. the RX8 is a great car...mazda did a good job in makin a comeback into the market...but what category does the car fall under?...the full charges makes it cost about the same as an evo in the 30,000 range....the engine specs etc puts it in the S2000 and RSX etc range. i don't really think mazda will ever release a turbo version of the RX8...just a more powerfull naturally aspirated 8...do u know how difficult it is gettin the rotary engine to meet emission under boost?...thats what killed the RX7 in the first place...mitsu and subaru are the only companies engines that survived through that crisis...all other companies had to call off the turboed vehicles (nissan, toyota, mazda)
5. Comeon...comparing you beating an S2000 on the street doesn't count....there are no standard conditions, no matter how good you say you are neither you or your opponent are not that skilled of drivers to even properly show the power potention of the two cars
6. for the gearing of evos....yeah they have close ratio transmissions...a friend of mine owns an evolution V...if you can follow him on the roads we got hear and keep up with those fast cornering speeds on his stock evo...then waw u got a fast car.... we put it up in stock for m against an FC RX7 running around 15 Pounds of boost...(don't have a RWHP figure) you know what happened?...off the line the were neck and neck...by 3rd gear the evo was 3 car lenghts ahead.....the evo topped out at 157MPH wheas the RX7 was doin 140 with a lot more to go...but the race was over by then
1. someone quoted the S2000 as being a 2.2 litre engine....thats .2 litres too much my friend
2. the evo has the plastic interior etc because it isn't meant to be a luxury car etc(we've established that) but to make the car lighter....who pays attention to those details when driving...not me
3. the evos are not lancers....try taking a lancer yourself and build it to an evo...you may get it to look like an evo...sound like an evo..but not be half the beast and evo is...don't believe me?...see ppl who have tried....
4. the RX8 is a great car...mazda did a good job in makin a comeback into the market...but what category does the car fall under?...the full charges makes it cost about the same as an evo in the 30,000 range....the engine specs etc puts it in the S2000 and RSX etc range. i don't really think mazda will ever release a turbo version of the RX8...just a more powerfull naturally aspirated 8...do u know how difficult it is gettin the rotary engine to meet emission under boost?...thats what killed the RX7 in the first place...mitsu and subaru are the only companies engines that survived through that crisis...all other companies had to call off the turboed vehicles (nissan, toyota, mazda)
5. Comeon...comparing you beating an S2000 on the street doesn't count....there are no standard conditions, no matter how good you say you are neither you or your opponent are not that skilled of drivers to even properly show the power potention of the two cars
6. for the gearing of evos....yeah they have close ratio transmissions...a friend of mine owns an evolution V...if you can follow him on the roads we got hear and keep up with those fast cornering speeds on his stock evo...then waw u got a fast car.... we put it up in stock for m against an FC RX7 running around 15 Pounds of boost...(don't have a RWHP figure) you know what happened?...off the line the were neck and neck...by 3rd gear the evo was 3 car lenghts ahead.....the evo topped out at 157MPH wheas the RX7 was doin 140 with a lot more to go...but the race was over by then
12-18-2003, 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by Twin 8s!
Please advise.... at what speed do you condone street racing?
Please advise.... at what speed do you condone street racing?
Originally posted by Twin 8s!
Point is you folks continue to compare the stock first year version of RX8 with customixed Imprezza and Lancer vehicles.... You want to compare AWD with RWD, turbo to non-turbo, and more... I am glad you like your vehicles.... I like mine too and I will be very interested comparing a turbo-charged AWD RX8 when the factory builds one.
Point is you folks continue to compare the stock first year version of RX8 with customixed Imprezza and Lancer vehicles.... You want to compare AWD with RWD, turbo to non-turbo, and more... I am glad you like your vehicles.... I like mine too and I will be very interested comparing a turbo-charged AWD RX8 when the factory builds one.
US EVO - 271 HP, No Active Yaw Control (AYC) or Active Center Differential (ACD)
Standard EVO - Outside of the US - 280 HP - AYC and ACD
FQ300 - 300 HP, AYC and ACD
FQ330 - 330 HP, AYC and ACD
EVO Extreme ~ 340 HP, AYC and ACD
EVO RS Sprint - ~ 340 HP, NO AYC, Has ACD - Lighter, Stripped Down Racing Model
As for the RX8, its going to be hard pressed for them to release a high-powered turbo model with the fuel economy and emissions the Renesis has in NA terms. Perhaps, if the issues are worked maybe it could happen.
12-19-2003, 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by Twin 8s!
Please advise.... at what speed do you condone street racing?
Point is you folks continue to compare the stock first year version of RX8 with customixed Imprezza and Lancer vehicles.... You want to compare AWD with RWD, turbo to non-turbo, and more... I am glad you like your vehicles.... I like mine too and I will be very interested comparing a turbo-charged AWD RX8 when the factory builds one.
Please advise.... at what speed do you condone street racing?
Point is you folks continue to compare the stock first year version of RX8 with customixed Imprezza and Lancer vehicles.... You want to compare AWD with RWD, turbo to non-turbo, and more... I am glad you like your vehicles.... I like mine too and I will be very interested comparing a turbo-charged AWD RX8 when the factory builds one.
But accept the fact that the EVO is at a higher level of performance than the RX8. I don't think any of the EVO owners, myself included, will argue with you about which car looks better or which has nicer materials inside.
I've never understood why people think that a turbocharged car should not be compared with a N/A car. It seems like this "card" is only played by the loser. Covette, SupraTT, 300ZX TT...so you can only compare the Supra to the 300zx?
Back on topic. the S2000 should win all day long. As mentioned before the S2000 runs low 14's...the RX8 runs low 15's. The difference is about 1 second. So imagine a S2000 traveling at 97 mph past you....you count 1 second and then the RX8 flys by...that's close to 10 car lengths. The acceleration may not seem very different between the two and that's because both have a flat, low torque curve but trust me...the S2000 is much faster.
S2000:
2800 lbs
240 hp
0.086 hp/# (bigger is better)
RX8:
3029 lbs
238 hp
0.078 hp/#
12-19-2003, 11:49 AM
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the S2000 is NOT much faster ! read my post on top, S2000 is just little faster than the 8. S2000 pull really hard when it hits vtec while the 8 stop pulling due to mazda running it too rich up top to safe the CAT . when cz mods installed in the 8, i m sure the 8 will give the s2000 a tough time.