lourx8

What is your point on the quarter mile speed comment? What are the reliability problems you've heard from many dealers?

syntrix

This thread is done.

Read the first post:

And here's the title:

AltecLansing

actually it's really hard to compare RX8 with other cars; its simply unique. u can compare an EVO with STi, S2000 with 350Z. but RX8?? geez, will u compare a Ford pick up with RX8 just becox of the doors?

i love all of these cars (except the ford), and i prefer RX8 becox of the uniqueness. Rotary engine + 4 doors + 4 seat + nice interior design (which STi, 350z etc lacks of)+ nice handling + unique outlook + sedan/4 door coupe insurance = RX8.

ERicInCal

As a past S2000 owner, I can honestly say that the S2000 is a quicker car. I also want to inform some of the RX8 people here that there are some differences in the S2000s you might not be aware of. The older s2000 (2000-2001) are known in the community to put down about 10hp less than the 02 and 03-04 versions. so if you are making comparisons, make sure to note the years. The older ones will have plastic windows.

I just sold my 2003 S2000 3 days ago, and I decided to get an RX8. I should have it in 2 weeks. I will miss the wail of the 9000 rpm engine, but in the end I know I will enjoy the RX8 even more. Why? Becuase I want a car that does "everything". The RX8 is that car. Its not the fastest car out there, but it has good straight line performance, has a great interior, is an amazing value, and has good looks. One of the big reasons I am choosing it over the S2000 is becuase it has has seating for 4 (my dog can go with me now in the back seat!) it has tons more elbow and shoulder room than the s2000, its a lot quieter than the S2000 (almost 5000rpm at 85 miles per hour on the freeway is very TIRING), Traction Control , side air bags, a good stereo and I can recline my seat a lot more.

If I had to describe it to someone, I would say it was like my NSX, Quiet , comfortable, and spacious, great handling, etc. But has room in the back for 2 others! Like I said before, its not the FASTEST out there, but I know Im not going to be racing this car, and if I have to give up 1-1.5 seconds in the quarter mile to have the ability to carry 2 more people. I think thats a pretty good compromise.

murix

I am suprised this thread is still going!

The funny part to me is I could care less about a drag race between a S2000 and RX8. It definitely falls out of the realm of both cars in my book and I know of a lot better cars to go play with for drag racing. In a drag race, they would both lose easy to a SRT-4 which costs $20k and makes a lot more hp. So what?

Broker73

to the comment on the guy who says its overpriced??

you just showed who little you know about cars. The 8 is incredibly priced relative to other performance or touring cars. Has good performance and styling, and great handling. The G35 is 5k+ more, so is the 350Z. I use to own a BMW a few years ago that was more expensive, and was slower (325i).

I guess that is why is has won awards, and most comparisons when put up against other cars eh???

:o

Man some people have no idea?

RX8-TX

Broker, I don't know where you live. But around here the RX8 is priced very close to the 350Z. If you equip both with similar options, they come up very very close.

And the G35 Coupe is not that far...equally equiped that is.

04ls1vette

Broker: Can you post up links to awards the Rx-8 has won? Haven 't seen any and i'm curious. Thanks

RX8-TX

I can help:

1. RX8s powerplant award:
http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/ieoty.html

Boudicea

Here are a few I found...(hey look, my fiurst post!)

http://www.carpages.co.uk/mazda/mazd...echo=995689275

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/bestcars/?cnn=yes

http://www.auto-stop.net/index2.php?section=essais

http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/news/...ry.asp?ID=5650

http://www.whatcar.com/News_SpecialR...&EL_ID=3052520

http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/031210-3.htm

http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/031120-3.htm

And these aren't counting stuff like the R&T 10 Best, etc.

downshift

Lol, great first post! Good find too. Oh, and guess which car came in second on CNN/Money's Best Sports Car of 2004?

Skyline Maniac

The RX-8 is incredibly priced, if you know how to bargain with the dealership. You can get a 6MT RX-8 for under $24k easy - the cheapest you can find a 6MT G35C is at least $5k more.

tschangrx7

How can you currently get the RX-8 for under $24K? The invoice is $25,200 with no options. That brings it up to $25,500 with $300 dealer profit. I would also get the Sport Package for the Xenon lights and stability control which would bring the price up to $26,500 now that no discounts are being offered. Maybe the price will go down to $24K after discounting but not now.

Boudicea

I saw a bare bones auto for $22,500 the other day. Granted it was an auto, but it was under $25,000.

jdmlover79

s2k>g35 coupe 6spd > rx-8 > or = rsx type-s> civic si 1/4 miles only

come on guys be honest!

rx-8 is no NO NO NO match with s2k
do you wanna talk about handling?
s2k will blow rx-8 on the road track
I DO NOT HAVE S2K

rx-8 is close to rsx type-r (not type-s) on handling!
i can't believe some peeps saying rx-8 is fast or better handling than s2k

omg! i know you guys love rx-8 but come on being a little honest about your car or rx-8


do not say if that and this on rx-8 or something
i am camparing two cars as stock and given a equal driver!

stop dreaming! it is time to wake up guys!

edit: when i shop for g35 coupe and rx-8

the cheapest deal i got offered for rx-8 (full option 6 spd) was $28000

the cheapest deal i found for g35 coupe 6spd (only with 1-piece aero package and premium package) was $34000
if you wanna compare full option g35 coupe 6spd the best deal i got was $39820

it was 4 differebt dealer for each cars!
at ventura county ! south california!

RX8Bliss

uhh.... i've ran against quite a few s2ks, in club sponsored and private(*ahem*) events.... as well as with various members of certain clubs on various gettogethers... the s2k will not BLOW the 8 away *rolleyes*. on the quarter mile, stock for stock, the 8 will hang with a s2k just fine. it probably wont win, but it wont be too far behind. now, if both were modded? considering how hard it is to mod the 8 right now? the s2k will win, by a big margin, but then again s2k mods are fairly expensive but effective. while the 8 mods are fairly expensive and generally not effective :P
I know some one will object with the canzoomer mod, but thats just one. i dont buy the claims the intakes/exhaust manufactureres claim anyway, i think they just sound nicer.
some s2k owners are arrogant ****** who'll frown upon the rx8 when we pull up next/behind them, thank GOD that most s2k owners are nice car enthusiasts. if these jackasses drove anything else other than the s2k, (350z, evo, sti, hell even an fiero:P) they'd still claim that the 8(as well as all other cars) sucks compared to theirs; just ignore the little punks, they're losers anyway.
when running canyons and such, the 8 can hang pretty evenly with the s2k, because when running these roads ANY car that is driven by a person well-informed about their vehicle can run fast. any s2k driver who claims they can pass and leave me in their dust with their s2ks in the hills is an idiot who's only experience in running twisty roads is probably with their playstation2. i've ran a few against idiots like these who afterwards will claim some poor excuse "oh i misshifted" "i hit a patch of sand" "huh? were you racing me? i wasn't really trying..."
any real driver knows that whatever car you drive, if you love it, care for it, learn how to really use it to its full potential, you can do wonderful things with it. only snot nosed slack jawed yokels will bash ANY other car, quote 1/4mile numbers like its a holy scripture (or worse yet, quote MAGAZINE times *shivers-magazineracers-shivers*), or say dumb things like "I can blow you away". if you've got a chip on your shoulder, got something to prove, think you're a big man, just stuff a roll of socks down your pants, it'll be much cheaper than buying/modding a car to claim braggin rights. stop trolling autoforums and just be satisfied that we all got cars that suited our best interests. if you're really proud of your car, you'd stfu and appreciate that maybe, JUST MAYBE, we feel the same about ours.

jdmlover79

then i think you are one dam good driver cuz most of japanese mags rite now saying that only few jap cars (nsx, sti, lancer) can hang with or better than s2k handling!

rx-8 vs rsx type-r (integra type-r) with profesional racers
they are close to each other but type-r pulls hard on straight so edge to type-r

in other hand rx-8 vs s2k with profesional racers, it is going to be joke! when mazda made rx-8 they didn't make it for compite with s2k, they made it for compite with type-r, wrx, celica gts, etc

rx-8 is one class bellow s2k for fact!

so plz stop dreaming about beating s2k (stock vs stock)

also there are advantage and disadvantage with fwd
specialy high speed corner!

Hornet

$28,000 on a fully optioned RX-8 is a deal. A fully optioned RX-8 is normally going to cost you about $35,000. I also checked out the G35 coupe and they tried to sell me one with 6000 miles on it for $35,000 which btw was the same as what they were selling the new ones for that were equipped the same.

Also out of curiousity, where did you read "the RX-8 is faster and/or better handling than the S2K" in this forum. I think you might be jumping the gun a little. Maybe you've missunderstood posts in which people say the RX-8 can "keep up with the S2K" as "beating the S2K". If you can find someone saying that here please provide a link to where that post is cause I simply don't believe it happened in here, although the question may have been asked or someone might have mentioned running into a lesser experienced S2K driver.

jdmlover79

how about this threat?
he is try to prove s2k handling is even with rx-8 or rx-8 handling is even better with his experience ( not a smart compare, it is more got to do with driver in this case not a car)

amartin

Jeeesus.. I probably said this on the 4th page of this thread. I own both, the S2K is faster, period. 0-60, 1/4" mile, twistys..whatever. Its faster, but rides like a covered-wagon. They are apples and oranges.

Stop comparing a non-covertible 4-door-sedan to a roadster. They are different kinds of cars with different plusss and minuses. The SCCA puts them in a different classs (the S2K is B-Stock)...so, why should be put them in the same class?

rotary-convert

based on my perceptions i don't belive jdmlover is a very good listener/reader.........don't even bother trying to appease him and others like him........
i love my 8 no matter what is faster, quicker or cheaper

Genom

I'm amazed that such a simple topic on an internet BBS can evoke such wrath between people that probably will never meet.

Hornet

Agreed, cause it seems he didn't even comprehend what I wrote. Especially the part where I said when running against "a lesser S2K driver".

tpryor

OK - excepting the FWD comment (that kind of gives it away, doesn't it?).

While I know nothing will change anyones mind, this is the only CONCRETE evidence I have seen to date. Also, before anyone whines about talented drivers, there were three Nationals Trophy winners in the class, including the third place finisher at Nationals in 2003. AND, it was the (unsorted) first National competition for the RX-8, against a group of the most sorted and prepared S2000's in the country. I submit the following from the recent SCCA Solo II National Tour:

Ike

I don't know about that most sorted and well prepared S2Ks in the country... Many of our local events get more S2Ks on a regular old weekend than you had for a nats event, and it's not looking like many people traveled for that event. I've always been really suprised by how few S2Ks you Houston guys having showing up at your events on a week by week basis. You'd expect that in Milwaukee not Houston. And if you go by your logic the Boxster is a step above or at least on par with the S2K and RX-8, and most people will agree that just isn't the case.

However in the hands of a very capable driver the Boxster and the RX-8 certainly can compete. There's no doubt that both cars handle great, and better than anyone would ever even need on the street. But also lets not forget that autox is a quirky thing, and is hardly the end all be all of determining how good of a handler or a track car a certain vehicle is. I'm sure you know as well as I do that I could find many other autox results where the RX-8 finishes dead last or very near last in BS. Of course this has more to do with the driver and it being a new car than anything else.

Is the RX-8 a class below the S2K? (If you go by the SCCA it is for the 2004MY it is :p) No, I think the wording is a little strong there... On a REAL track given equal drivers will the S2K win over and RX-8 almost every time, there's little doubt in my mind, and the same certainly happens at the dragstrip as well. Does that make one better than the other? No, I think it just makes them different.