toolboy

yeah, he doesn't fail often but if he does its somethig "big" like last year canada gp pit lane crash or 2007 Shanghai ...

alfy28

grats to ruben. all i know is, i want ruben to win the championship. and sigh to hamilton, i was so happy with 3rd. but we all seen waht happend . any how go go ruben, i hope you win this year, you truly deserve it man.

especially if the rumors are true about brawn wanting to keep jenson, and hire rosberg. if that is true, i hope ruben gives them a middle finger salute with the championship

alnielsen

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It seems Lewis Hamilton has dumped his girl friend.
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf...zinger_1115853

Pololo_RX8

This explains it then! No wonder he crashed during the last lap... Man... he needs to concentrate in the race!...

Alfy,
Sending you a box of Klennex first thing tomorrow morning.

Carlos

alfy28

you **** hole lol. its hard enough that i had to cry my self to sleep.


but i must admit, you got me good

Renesis_8

hahahaha alfy

Lewis had some oversteer man!

alnielsen

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In reply to these reports Lewis says "That's bullsh*t,"
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=345113:F1

Mazmart

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I think Lewis just pushed it beyond the limits. All of these guys are driving on the edge and the McLaren is still inferior in some areas. I suspect that's all that went down. The condition of his tires combined with how hot he went into that section of track was his undoing. It would have been prudent to have slowed up (In hindsight) but most of us prefer when drivers give it their all.

Paul.

alnielsen

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Yes, he drove a little to wide and hit the rumble strips & paint. They don't work well for traction. He gave 101% effort. Thats 1% too much.

shaunv74

Definitely a heart breaker for him. It just goes to show how on the ragged edge all those guys push those cars. Everyone was hanging it out looking for every piece of asphalt and firm ground coming off that corner. (Even Kimi using KERS in the grass at the start! )

The in-car replay was amazingly quick. It seemed like just a little bobble and then the car just lost it and spun in to the wall. It really didn't take much.

alnielsen

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Briatore out, Prost in?
http://www.f1technical.net/news/13335

Canada confirms 2010 calendar slot
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78645

Mazmart

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The wreck was extremely quick and his head moved around violently. Our parent company is the inventor of the HANS device so I'm very aware of the trauma involved in these wrecks. I was glad to see him walking about so soon afterward.

Paul.

alfy28

Rubens Barrichello has scolded Flavio Briatore for dragging down even further the tone of the 'crash-gate' scandal.

The Renault team boss is accused of ordering his sacked driver Nelson Piquet to crash during last year's Singapore grand prix, and he came out fighting when he gave interviews in multiple languages in the Monza paddock.

At one point, the Italian revealed that Piquet had had a relationship with a 50-year-old man.

"I do not have anything against anyone and so I am just waiting to see what the FIA says (at the 21 September hearing)," Barrichello, who wore an orange top on his helmet at Monza in partial tribute to Piquet Jr, said.

"For formula one it is a dishonour, about what happened (at Singapore) and of what Briatore said yesterday," the Brazilian veteran, who admitted he does not have a good relationship with Piquet's famous father, explained.

"In my view that (Briatore's comments) was simply too much, going down too low a level," he added.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/10909142...piquet-remarks

bse50

i feel ashamed and sorry for my country.
Anybody has got a free room there?

PerSmitt

I agree with that statement. He had put a purple time on the previous sector on the live timing (fastest of all drivers throughout the entire race). He knew he had 1 last lap to pass Button and decided to go all out.

I adore that kind of driver who see the race as over once the checkered flag is passed and not one inch before. Fight with teeth and claws until victory or defeat is there but at least fight!

The McLaren team could have told him to step down and just defend his 3rd position, but since he is not fighting for the championship I think they just let him fight it out.

As for Button passing Barichello. No way, Button was chanceless to Barichello last weekend. Barichello had slowed down and was just saving his engine on the end. He could have responded at any time.

I was disappointed in Barichello at the beginning of the season and really thought that he was way past his peak and should give up. But after seeing the last two races I have to revise that opinion. Barichello is kicking *** and taking names right now with his driving.

Finally I find it hilarious that Button hasn't secured the title yet. Button openly criticized Hamilton last year saying "If I had as superior car as the McLaren I would have won the championship by now." Well guess what Button, you have the best car and have been driving it for the entire season and the outcome is still open.

So after such blatantly stupid comments I am also giving full cheers for Barichello that he takes home the championship this year!

PerSmitt

Here is an interview with Hamilton about the crash:

http://www.formula1.com/news/intervi...09/9/9930.html

Pololo_RX8

I can't believe I am saying this but I feel this "Crashgate" has open a bigger can of worms and while the outcome won't be positive, ALL parties here should be punished!!

Why offer immunity to the people that cause this dark cloud over my favorite sport? As usual, the Piquets are not more than spoiled **** holes, as they alwyas have been... especially Piquet Sr. No wonder he was never likked even by his teammates... He can stab anybody in the back, if needed...

Symonds transcript of his meeting with FIA just got leaked and it's amazing to see such level of dishonesty and plain arrogance by these guys...

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,1895...560410,00.html

I know Flavio is Flavio but I feel he has his days numbered and will be suspended because of this...

And now this **** hole Piquet Sr is blaming even Alonso saying he knew about all this!!! For god sakes, he crashed on lap 14!!! and there were 40+ laps to go...How could they say, Alonso knew and he will benefit by this.. What BS!!!

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,1895...560734,00.html

And I guess Max is after Flavio anyways as he was after Ron Dennis back in 2007.

You ALL are a disgrace to this beautiful SPORT...

SHAME ON YOU!

Carlos

alnielsen

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The Piquet's are out. Piquet Jr. will most likely be blackballed from F1 and we will only hear about him in touring car & endurance racing.

In other news:
BMW finds Swiss buyer for F1 Team
http://www.f1technical.net/news/13339

But, before that was announced, a new team called Lotus F1 Team was selected to take BMW Sauber's place on the grid for next season.
http://www.f1technical.net/news/13337
I wonder what this means for Lotus F1.

mike1324a

I was reading about the lotus addition to the grid and there were some really funny comments about it.

"Tonight..you will be visited...by THREE GHOSTS!

The Ghost of Lightness Past, called Jim, will show you how good things once were. The Ghost of Lightness Present will warn you of the dangers of racing. And finally, the Ghost of Lightness Future isn't really a ghost, but he does have a really dreamy mustache."

"Woo Hoo! The F1 pits will once again be littered with broken parts and oil spills!

Chapman will be rolling in his grave if the cars actually are overbuilt like the Elise/Exige."

I agree that itll be very different this time around tho. As far as im concerned, chapman was lotus. Without him it is simply another team. I do feel that the rules were better in his days because innovation was less stiffled. That being said, chapman was king of bending the rules and finding loop holes. Im curious what it would be like if he were here today.

alfy28

i am probably the person who only thinks this, but like like said in the earlier in the season in this thread. i really think brawn pulled team orders on ruben. we seen for the last 4 races how ruben has just owning button. and that mkes me happy. i hope and i cross my finger that ruben pulls this off and wins the championship. the guy is just one of the nicest guys out there on the grid, and to me he deserves this win then any one else racing. guys like him, massa and hamilton is why i love this sport.

alfy28

when i read stuff like this, it only makes me more pissed at brawn. ruben has been pullling all the points for that team. not saying that button hasnt, but i feel ruben put in more work.

Even two wins in three races has not been enough for Rubens Barrichello to secure a definite future at the Brawn team.

The British team makes no secret of wanting to keep championship leader Jenson Button on board for 2010, but as for the longest-serving driver in F1 history, chief executive Nick Fry answered at Monza: "We'll see.

"We're very much concentrating on each race now and they are both doing a brilliant job. Let's leave it at that for the moment," he added.

However, team boss Ross Brawn has suggested previously that Button alongside Barrichello, who is 37, is a lineup that would serve the Brackley squad well beyond November's Abu Dhabi finale.

Asked whether there are any reasons to make a change, he answered: "Not really, no. They're both doing a fantastic job."

But Brawn insisted that the driver question for next year is still open.

"It's still to be decided," he added. "We're working on it.

"We've other things we have to sort out and then the drivers will come after that."


http://www.worldcarfans.com/10909152...uture-at-brawn

alnielsen

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It's going to be the age thing with Rubens. Current thinking is you can't be at your peak if you over 30.

alfy28

^^ and your right forgot that ruben is 37, and that teams love young ppl, so they can mold them for hte future. any ways, ruben do your thing man, and i hope you pull this off

alfy28

more drama for your momma


For the first time, Fernando Alonso has been implicated as being part of the Nelson Piquet 'crash-gate' scandal.

Piquet's famous father and namesake is quoted by the Spanish newspaper Diario Sport as suggesting the Spanish racer "knew everything" about the deliberate crash in Singapore last year.

The crash triggered the safety car and activated Alonso's unusual low-fuel strategy. The 27-year-old went on to win the race but at Monza last weekend he denied he knew about the allegations until news of the scandal broke.

FIA president Max Mosley also said at Monza that there is no information that Alonso knew about the deliberate crash.

But Piquet Snr told Sport: "Fernando knew everything. He couldn't ignore it.

"If you are 15th on the grid at a street circuit, there is no point going out with no fuel. At most you will pass three cars and after your last stop you stay where you are. It's a senseless strategy," the Brazilian former triple world champion added.
Bernie Ecclestone, the F1 chief executive and a close ally of Renault team boss Flavio Briatore, was also quoted by the Spanish newspaper.

The 78-year-old reportedly said: "Nelson told me that he is going to do everything he can to destroy Briatore."



http://www.worldcarfans.com/10909152...sh--piquet-snr

alfy28

just gets more interesting

http://www.worldcarfans.com/10909162...-in-crash-gate


The French carmaker Renault has reportedly offered to replace the boss of its formula one team, Flavio Briatore.

The offer, made to the sport's governing body ahead of the 21 September hearing into the 'crash-gate' affair, was interpreted by the Spanish newspaper AS as being a move to appease the World Motor Sport Council.

Evidence about the case that has leaked to the press does not bode well for Renault, whose bosses Briatore and Pat Symonds are accused by sacked driver Nelson Piquet of ordering him to crash deliberately in Singapore a year ago.

Diario AS said Renault has offered to oust Briatore in favour of Frederic Vasseur, a boss of the GP2 team ART. Fascinatingly, Vasseur is in business with Nicolas Todt, the son of the FIA presidential candidate Jean.

Another rumoured potential replacement for Briatore is Alain Prost, and the four time world champion said at Monza: "I only know that there is a rumour, we'll see what happens."

There are other strong signs that Briatore is set to bear the brunt of the blame for the alleged order to crash.

Britain's Times newspaper reveals that, like Piquet Jr, the team's engineering director Pat Symonds has also been offered immunity if he cooperates fully with the FIA.

Symonds hinted strongly in his recent interview with FIA stewards and Quest investigators that he knows much more about the affair. He told them at the time that he did not want to answer incriminating questions because he preferred to "reserve" his position.

One assumption would be that Symonds is prepared to talk only under the cover of immunity.

The newspaper also said the investigators believe Piquet's claims are "reasonable, on balance". And Max Mosley told the Guardian: "Certainly the data from the car indicated that something very unusual had happened on the corner where he crashed."

The FIA president also agreed that "it would" be very unusual if Piquet and his famous father are risking jail sentences by criminally perjuring themselves about the events at F1's inaugural night race.

Transcripts of Renault's radio traffic in Singapore has also come to light, depicting Briatore reacting stridently to the news that Piquet, 23, had crashed.

"Fu**ing hell ... my every fu**ing disgrace, fu**ing, he's not a driver," the Italian said.