Official 2009 Formula 1 Season Discussion
09-04-2009, 07:54 AM
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LOL, very true. think this is my favorite thread. during Midland F1 team, i use to go post on a all F1 thread. talk about some very serious F1 fans. i think these guys actually breath F1. well anyways, you know how i just make fun of drivers and team just for fun.
well this Michael Schu fan got all up set with me. because i made fun of his team. man this guy got so livid with me, he started to go crazy. at this point, i never knew they had F1 nerds out there. this guy started to type
"AAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHH how dare you talk about MS that way"
i started to laugh, because i bet this guy was at his home just tearing **** up. probably banging his head on the keyboard etc.
ferrari fans here know how to take a joke, but there are some that just dont know what humor is.
well this Michael Schu fan got all up set with me. because i made fun of his team. man this guy got so livid with me, he started to go crazy. at this point, i never knew they had F1 nerds out there. this guy started to type
"AAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHH how dare you talk about MS that way"
i started to laugh, because i bet this guy was at his home just tearing **** up. probably banging his head on the keyboard etc.
ferrari fans here know how to take a joke, but there are some that just dont know what humor is.
09-04-2009, 07:58 AM
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I think we were a bit "stricter" on pure F1 discussion last year. Just like bse50 says, this has become our own little BS thread.
I think it is a lovely little talking place and I have caught myself ignoring the other threads on the forum lately. My RX-8 runs fine. I am done with my MM tune. Nah, I will just hang around here.
I think it is a lovely little talking place and I have caught myself ignoring the other threads on the forum lately. My RX-8 runs fine. I am done with my MM tune. Nah, I will just hang around here.
I will also blame it on Alfy. Sometime we all need a good laugh!
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09-04-2009, 08:35 AM
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With just five races left to run in 2009, the so-called driver market 'silly season' for next year has shifted into high gear.
With key names like Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen on the move, vacant cockpits at McLaren and Renault, and teams set both to depart and join the grid, the media airwaves are filled with rumours about the constitution of the 2010 championship.
At Williams, both Nico Rosberg and Kazuki Nakajima could be leaving, to be replaced possibly by rookie Nico Hulkenberg and the team's former driver Nick Heidfeld, who like Robert Kubica is on the market due to BMW's impending departure.
Kubica, however, appears to be on Renault's radar, with the French team needing to replace the almost certainly Ferrari-bound Alonso.
Also linked with the Renault seat in recent days has been Raikkonen, who may be set to depart Ferrari a year before his contract runs out.
Flavio Briatore is on the lookout for a replacement not only for Alonso but for the departing title sponsor ING, and signing Raikkonen could woo the Finnish mobile brand Nokia on board.
Back to Williams, and Germany's Auto Motor und Sport believes the GP2 driver Vitaly Petrov is a possibility for the Grove team, whose second cockpit is currently occupied by the heavily Toyota-backed Nakajima.
Williams however looks likely to line up with Renault power in 2010, leaving Russian Petrov - apparently with up to 15m euro in personal sponsorship - in the frame for a seat. He has also been linked with the new Spanish team Campos.
At Ferrari, the situation is complicated, with Raikkonen, Alonso and the injured Felipe Massa all under contract, but only two cockpits to occupy.
Brazilian Massa is recovering well from his Budapest qualifying crash, but apart from sporting a facial scar at the Racing Festival in Sao Paulo this week, is reportedly still affected by brain bruising.
Recovery from head injuries of that type is an inexact science, so Ferrari must be concerned that he in fact will not be ready to race at the season opener next March.
This would explain Ferrari's push to have three cockpits available for the 2010 season: one definitely reserved for Massa, one for Alonso, and perhaps a fully competitive third driver in the form of Raikkonen or perhaps Kubica assured either the second or third cockpit.
Giancarlo Fisichella could also be lining up a Ferrari drive, but it would be a test seat only, with his place at Force India to be taken by Tonio Liuzzi.
Toyota is in a difficult situation, given the team's inability to guarantee any driver a seat until after the executive board approves a budget for the 2010 season.
Nakajima would be a cheap and experienced alternative with a nationality to suit the team's Japanese owner, should Jarno Trulli and Timo Glock have already departed by the time of the budget approval in November.
Also available may be Heikki Kovalainen given that Rosberg is likely to replace him at McLaren, and also Rubens Barrichello, who would be ousted if rumours of Brawn's interest in Raikkonen are true.
Also actively looking around for a drive is Nelson Piquet, who has been talking with 2010's new teams Campos, Manor and USF1. It is believed he has been in discussions with Indycar teams as well.
Similarly, former Toro Rosso third driver Neel Jani confirmed he has been in talks with the new F1 teams.
"I am keeping my fingers crossed," he told the Asian age newspaper.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10909032...-market-churns
hmm what i would like to see is,
Alonso and Massa at ferrari
Kimi teaming up with Hamilton (but i dont think kimi wants to drive a mcarlen again, so i dont mind Nico). Hamilton really needs a teammate to push him, and vice versa. Heki is cool and all, but no comment
i think taht would make a exciting 2010
With key names like Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen on the move, vacant cockpits at McLaren and Renault, and teams set both to depart and join the grid, the media airwaves are filled with rumours about the constitution of the 2010 championship.
At Williams, both Nico Rosberg and Kazuki Nakajima could be leaving, to be replaced possibly by rookie Nico Hulkenberg and the team's former driver Nick Heidfeld, who like Robert Kubica is on the market due to BMW's impending departure.
Kubica, however, appears to be on Renault's radar, with the French team needing to replace the almost certainly Ferrari-bound Alonso.
Also linked with the Renault seat in recent days has been Raikkonen, who may be set to depart Ferrari a year before his contract runs out.
Flavio Briatore is on the lookout for a replacement not only for Alonso but for the departing title sponsor ING, and signing Raikkonen could woo the Finnish mobile brand Nokia on board.
Back to Williams, and Germany's Auto Motor und Sport believes the GP2 driver Vitaly Petrov is a possibility for the Grove team, whose second cockpit is currently occupied by the heavily Toyota-backed Nakajima.
Williams however looks likely to line up with Renault power in 2010, leaving Russian Petrov - apparently with up to 15m euro in personal sponsorship - in the frame for a seat. He has also been linked with the new Spanish team Campos.
At Ferrari, the situation is complicated, with Raikkonen, Alonso and the injured Felipe Massa all under contract, but only two cockpits to occupy.
Brazilian Massa is recovering well from his Budapest qualifying crash, but apart from sporting a facial scar at the Racing Festival in Sao Paulo this week, is reportedly still affected by brain bruising.
Recovery from head injuries of that type is an inexact science, so Ferrari must be concerned that he in fact will not be ready to race at the season opener next March.
This would explain Ferrari's push to have three cockpits available for the 2010 season: one definitely reserved for Massa, one for Alonso, and perhaps a fully competitive third driver in the form of Raikkonen or perhaps Kubica assured either the second or third cockpit.
Giancarlo Fisichella could also be lining up a Ferrari drive, but it would be a test seat only, with his place at Force India to be taken by Tonio Liuzzi.
Toyota is in a difficult situation, given the team's inability to guarantee any driver a seat until after the executive board approves a budget for the 2010 season.
Nakajima would be a cheap and experienced alternative with a nationality to suit the team's Japanese owner, should Jarno Trulli and Timo Glock have already departed by the time of the budget approval in November.
Also available may be Heikki Kovalainen given that Rosberg is likely to replace him at McLaren, and also Rubens Barrichello, who would be ousted if rumours of Brawn's interest in Raikkonen are true.
Also actively looking around for a drive is Nelson Piquet, who has been talking with 2010's new teams Campos, Manor and USF1. It is believed he has been in discussions with Indycar teams as well.
Similarly, former Toro Rosso third driver Neel Jani confirmed he has been in talks with the new F1 teams.
"I am keeping my fingers crossed," he told the Asian age newspaper.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10909032...-market-churns
hmm what i would like to see is,
Alonso and Massa at ferrari
Kimi teaming up with Hamilton (but i dont think kimi wants to drive a mcarlen again, so i dont mind Nico). Hamilton really needs a teammate to push him, and vice versa. Heki is cool and all, but no comment
i think taht would make a exciting 2010
09-04-2009, 11:30 AM
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x TIME FOR NEWS X
The championship-leading Brawn GP team has reportedly made an offer to the German driver Nico Rosberg for 2010.
But 24-year-old Rosberg, who currently drives for Williams but is eyeing a more competitive seat after four years with the British team, is more likely to become the first German to drive a works Mercedes since 1955, according to Bild newspaper.
McLaren-Mercedes wants to replace Lewis Hamilton's current teammate Heikki Kovalainen with Rosberg beginning next year, the German publication added.
"It looks good that I can go where I want to go. But I haven't decided yet," he is quoted as saying.
McLaren does have some competition for his services, however, with Bild saying both Williams as well as Brawn would also sign up the son of 1982 world champion Keke Rosberg in 2010.
He said at Spa-Francorchamps last weekend that he wants to have a contract for next year signed within the next few weeks, but Bild warned that his potential teammate Hamilton's father/manager Anthony "is not enthusiastic" about the move.
Bild said Rosberg would be the first German driver of a 'silver arrows' since Karl Kling in 1955.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10909042...ng-for-rosberg
The championship-leading Brawn GP team has reportedly made an offer to the German driver Nico Rosberg for 2010.
But 24-year-old Rosberg, who currently drives for Williams but is eyeing a more competitive seat after four years with the British team, is more likely to become the first German to drive a works Mercedes since 1955, according to Bild newspaper.
McLaren-Mercedes wants to replace Lewis Hamilton's current teammate Heikki Kovalainen with Rosberg beginning next year, the German publication added.
"It looks good that I can go where I want to go. But I haven't decided yet," he is quoted as saying.
McLaren does have some competition for his services, however, with Bild saying both Williams as well as Brawn would also sign up the son of 1982 world champion Keke Rosberg in 2010.
He said at Spa-Francorchamps last weekend that he wants to have a contract for next year signed within the next few weeks, but Bild warned that his potential teammate Hamilton's father/manager Anthony "is not enthusiastic" about the move.
Bild said Rosberg would be the first German driver of a 'silver arrows' since Karl Kling in 1955.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10909042...ng-for-rosberg
09-05-2009, 09:52 PM
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F1's governing body has charged Renault with conspiring with Nelson Piquet to crash deliberately at the 2008 Singapore grand prix.
Following a tip-off that came to light around the time of last weekend's Belgian GP, the FIA interviewed team members at Spa-Francorchamps and has been carrying out a further investigation in recent days.
Now, representatives of the Enstone based outfit "have been requested to appear before an extraordinary meeting of the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Paris" on 21 September, a statement on Friday confirmed.
The FIA accuses the French team of conspiring with Piquet, ousted by boss and manager Flavio Briatore recently, "to cause a deliberate crash ... with the aim of causing the deployment of the safety car to the advantage of its other driver, Fernando Alonso".
The World Council will decide whether Renault breached Article 151c of the International Sporting Code which relates to "fraudulent conduct" that is against "the interests of motor sport".
Penalties can range from fines to total expulsion from F1.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10909042...g-piquet-crash
Following a tip-off that came to light around the time of last weekend's Belgian GP, the FIA interviewed team members at Spa-Francorchamps and has been carrying out a further investigation in recent days.
Now, representatives of the Enstone based outfit "have been requested to appear before an extraordinary meeting of the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Paris" on 21 September, a statement on Friday confirmed.
The FIA accuses the French team of conspiring with Piquet, ousted by boss and manager Flavio Briatore recently, "to cause a deliberate crash ... with the aim of causing the deployment of the safety car to the advantage of its other driver, Fernando Alonso".
The World Council will decide whether Renault breached Article 151c of the International Sporting Code which relates to "fraudulent conduct" that is against "the interests of motor sport".
Penalties can range from fines to total expulsion from F1.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10909042...g-piquet-crash
09-05-2009, 11:14 PM
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09-06-2009, 12:59 AM
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Wouldn't the FIA governing body be able to hear what the teams are saying to their drivers? I know it isn't blatantly obvious as telling Piquet over the the radio to hit the wall, but it would be interesting what the 'key word' would be. If this is in fact true, why wouldn't Piquet oust his former boss? Does doing so make himself look bad?
09-06-2009, 02:54 AM
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What a bunch of ********. Speaking french.
After a year it is useless to bring something up because Piquet senior was angry at the moment.
How many times did Ferrari let Schumacher pass first? that is an illegal procedure too even if only against his teammate... they only said "don't do that again".
I don't understand what kind of drugs they are on honestly. You lose audience and start crapping the entire system.
Come on, when something works you don't change it! This year we have seen drivers coming and others going, drivers changing teams in the middle of the season etc.
This, with the addition of the rules change etc is going to kill this beautiful motorsport. They're going to lose bmw and possibly toyota, are they mad throwing renault away as well? Why not just race with mini coopers?
After a year it is useless to bring something up because Piquet senior was angry at the moment.
How many times did Ferrari let Schumacher pass first? that is an illegal procedure too even if only against his teammate... they only said "don't do that again".
I don't understand what kind of drugs they are on honestly. You lose audience and start crapping the entire system.
Come on, when something works you don't change it! This year we have seen drivers coming and others going, drivers changing teams in the middle of the season etc.
This, with the addition of the rules change etc is going to kill this beautiful motorsport. They're going to lose bmw and possibly toyota, are they mad throwing renault away as well? Why not just race with mini coopers?
09-06-2009, 09:39 AM
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^+1. The biggest problem in F1 has and allways will be the FIA. I don't like to watch NASCAR, but if you ever have watched one of their races, you would see that when there is an issue w/competition, following the rules, etc, etc..They handle it out of the limelight, as opposed for all the world to see like the FIA. They don't allow outside influences like disgruntled drivers, owners, fathers of drivers, even fans to influence their decision making process/final decision. The FIA could learn a lot from this, allthough I fear they may have allready sounded the death knell on the sport as we knew it due to their actions over the last 2-3 years.
09-06-2009, 04:01 PM
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Wouldn't the FIA governing body be able to hear what the teams are saying to their drivers? I know it isn't blatantly obvious as telling Piquet over the the radio to hit the wall, but it would be interesting what the 'key word' would be. If this is in fact true, why wouldn't Piquet oust his former boss? Does doing so make himself look bad?
as for piquet, i really wouldnt think he would want to destroy his future on purpose. he wouldnt be able to race anything FIA . so just weird to me, why he would sabotage his own future, just to get revenge on flavor flav.
09-06-2009, 06:54 PM
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At some level, I don't understand the nationalism that exists in F1. Yes, the US currently doesn't have a driver or a team involved. When USF1 does compete, I will root for them. But, I don't think it will compare with the passion that we see with the people of Europe or South America. Many of us, in the US, are many generations removed from the mother country. And, are ancestry is of many countries. In my case Norwegian, Danish, Welsh, Irish, English, French, Jewish, Native American and others. So, we lack a point to focus our passion.
If we follow F1, for some unknown reason, we choose a team/driver to follow. The others without a world focus, follow a national series like NASCAR or IRL.
Where am I going with this? It is just something I have had on my mind and thought it would make for a good discussion. And, maybe it could explain something to those outside of the US.
If we follow F1, for some unknown reason, we choose a team/driver to follow. The others without a world focus, follow a national series like NASCAR or IRL.
Where am I going with this? It is just something I have had on my mind and thought it would make for a good discussion. And, maybe it could explain something to those outside of the US.
09-06-2009, 07:53 PM
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you know its funny that you say that aln. you would think since i lived in japan for 17years (or being half jap that is) i would root for toyota or honda. but i always found my self rooting to mclaren.
its been a long time thta i actually like the driver . i just tend to root for who ever is driving for ht team that i like. but ever since hamilton, i i actually am a driver fanboy lol
its been a long time thta i actually like the driver . i just tend to root for who ever is driving for ht team that i like. but ever since hamilton, i i actually am a driver fanboy lol
09-07-2009, 01:02 AM
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Driver fanboi-ism for the win!
I like drivers who put on a good show on the track. Hamilton is a good example of that. Alonso is *grumbles mumbles* another excellent driver who is *gumbles mumbles* very fun to watch.
I can't believe that just escaped me.
I like drivers who put on a good show on the track. Hamilton is a good example of that. Alonso is *grumbles mumbles* another excellent driver who is *gumbles mumbles* very fun to watch.
I can't believe that just escaped me.
09-07-2009, 02:50 AM
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I don't know why. I always liked the ferrari-mc laren duels and being italian i went for ferrari.
I'm a fan of the sport in general so good drivers like vettel and kubica are always appreciated. I changed my mind on Alonso, before this season his behavior was not appreciated by me, now i'm starting to enjoy his "changes".
I'm a fan of the sport in general so good drivers like vettel and kubica are always appreciated. I changed my mind on Alonso, before this season his behavior was not appreciated by me, now i'm starting to enjoy his "changes".
09-08-2009, 06:35 AM
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Ok, 30 mins of interview with Massa.
I like him. He was sweet and joked all the time with the interviewer about his accident etc.
He may not be the best driver (we could discuss that as well) but for sure he is one of the best persons in the circus.
I like him. He was sweet and joked all the time with the interviewer about his accident etc.
He may not be the best driver (we could discuss that as well) but for sure he is one of the best persons in the circus.
09-08-2009, 09:29 AM
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I like massa also. always thought he felt he is a cool guy. i just pick on him for joking purpose. as for alonso, for the last 2 years now i have liked him. i think it took him to rejoin renault, for him to be brought back to earth.
09-08-2009, 10:28 AM
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At some level, I don't understand the nationalism that exists in F1. Yes, the US currently doesn't have a driver or a team involved. When USF1 does compete, I will root for them. But, I don't think it will compare with the passion that we see with the people of Europe or South America. Many of us, in the US, are many generations removed from the mother country. And, are ancestry is of many countries. In my case Norwegian, Danish, Welsh, Irish, English, French, Jewish, Native American and others. So, we lack a point to focus our passion.
If we follow F1, for some unknown reason, we choose a team/driver to follow. The others without a world focus, follow a national series like NASCAR or IRL.
Where am I going with this? It is just something I have had on my mind and thought it would make for a good discussion. And, maybe it could explain something to those outside of the US.
If we follow F1, for some unknown reason, we choose a team/driver to follow. The others without a world focus, follow a national series like NASCAR or IRL.
Where am I going with this? It is just something I have had on my mind and thought it would make for a good discussion. And, maybe it could explain something to those outside of the US.
I grew up in SouthAmerica, and after Soccer, our national sport is "motor racing". Still remember being 7 years old and getting up at 2:00 am with my dad, and travel for hours to an isolated mountain so we can watch the rally cars pass by... Heck even then I remember Lolas, Ferraris, Porsches, Cobras of the day and then watch F1 whenever we had the luxury to watch it at home.
When Senna died, F1 died on me and I stopped watching F1 for years until I decided to go to Monza for a shot of F1 back in my body.
I will root for anything with a latin driver/team in it.
well except for Mclaren and Williams...Must be my italian/french/spanish/indian blood. However when a driver is found cheating, regardless of their nationality, that drivers loses my respect and I move on...
Can't wait to have Alonso-Massa in Ferrari next year... It doesn't get better than this.
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09-08-2009, 10:05 PM
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I agree. Massa is fun to make fun of but i really like him. He is genuine and a good guy and best of all he proved last year that he is a good loser. Alonso on the other hand is another story. I hated him during his first renault stint and it culminated at mclaren. His attitude and persona was irritating. However, i do respect him as a great driver and his return to renault did indeed bring him back to earth. Now im glad to see him with red in his future
09-08-2009, 10:14 PM
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I agree. Massa is fun to make fun of but i really like him. He is genuine and a good guy and best of all he proved last year that he is a good loser. Alonso on the other hand is another story. I hated him during his first renault stint and it culminated at mclaren. His attitude and persona was irritating. However, i do respect him as a great driver and his return to renault did indeed bring him back to earth. Now im glad to see him with red in his future
09-09-2009, 12:24 AM
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I'm thinking and hoping that Massa will spank Alonso next year if they are both in red.
Even though I have said otherwise before I must admit Massa is among the top drivers in the grid. If a first year rookie could out-drive Alonso... well then Massa can do it too
Even though I have said otherwise before I must admit Massa is among the top drivers in the grid. If a first year rookie could out-drive Alonso... well then Massa can do it too