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11-20-2008, 11:52 AM
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11-20-2008, 11:56 AM
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11-21-2008, 11:30 AM
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New venue for French GP at Sarcelles?
After Disneyland Paris was scrapped as possible venue for the French Grand Prix, another potential venue reiterated its bid for the F1 Grand Prix: Sarcelles. Sarcelles is a commune in the northern suburbs of the French capital city and appears to be in the running to replace Magny-Cours on the calendar. The organisers of the project are in contact with Bernie Ecclestone and will have more news in a couple of weeks.
http://www.f1technical.net/news/11135
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FOTA to discuss new qualifying format
By Michele Lostia and Pablo Elizalde Friday, November 21st 2008, 09:35 GMT
The Formula One Teams' Association, FOTA, will discuss a new qualifying format for the sport when the body meets next month.
FOTA is looking to spice up qualifying, currently divided in three sessions, two of them including a knockout system.
The new idea to be looked at consists of all cars jumping onto the track at the same time and with the same amount of fuel, with the slowest driver being eliminated after each lap.
After 14 laps, the six fastest drivers would then fight for pole position, fitting new tyres but still using the same amount of fuel.
The proposal might even include a championship point for pole position and prize money.
The current format, where the ten quickest drivers fight for the top spot in the final session with an amount of fuel decided by the teams, often sees pole position going to a car that's lighter than the rest.
FOTA will meet on December 4 and if the proposed format is agreed upon by all teams, it is expected to be submitted to the FIA for approval.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72203
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Donington revamp hits planning delay
Thursday, 20 November 2008 00:00
The sign-off for Donington Park’s redevelopment plan has been delayed by its local district council – raising fresh doubts about the venue's readiness to stage the British Grand Prix in 2010.
Donington won the contract to host Britain's GP from Silverstone earlier this year when Bernie Ecclestone signed a surprise 10-year deal with the Leicestershire circuit.
The owners are planning a £38 million redevelopment scheme to get the facility up to Formula 1 standards by 2010, including a new pit and paddock complex and an extension of the track itself.
Planning approval was expected this month, but North West Leicestershire District Council has postponed its decision until 27 January in order to carry out a full environmental impact assessment.
It means organisers will have just 14 months to complete work on the circuit before their self-imposed deadline of 1 April 2010.
Nevertheless, they remain confident that the construction work will be completed on schedule.
"There is no question that Donington's ability to stage the race will be jeopardised by this delay to the planning procedure," a spokesman told the Daily Telegraph newspaper.
"As soon as permission is granted construction work will begin."
Ecclestone has made it clear that Britain's race will simply be taken off the 2010 calendar if Donington cannot satisfy the FIA that it will be ready in time.
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.a...44640&PO=44640
After Disneyland Paris was scrapped as possible venue for the French Grand Prix, another potential venue reiterated its bid for the F1 Grand Prix: Sarcelles. Sarcelles is a commune in the northern suburbs of the French capital city and appears to be in the running to replace Magny-Cours on the calendar. The organisers of the project are in contact with Bernie Ecclestone and will have more news in a couple of weeks.
http://www.f1technical.net/news/11135
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FOTA to discuss new qualifying format
By Michele Lostia and Pablo Elizalde Friday, November 21st 2008, 09:35 GMT
The Formula One Teams' Association, FOTA, will discuss a new qualifying format for the sport when the body meets next month.
FOTA is looking to spice up qualifying, currently divided in three sessions, two of them including a knockout system.
The new idea to be looked at consists of all cars jumping onto the track at the same time and with the same amount of fuel, with the slowest driver being eliminated after each lap.
After 14 laps, the six fastest drivers would then fight for pole position, fitting new tyres but still using the same amount of fuel.
The proposal might even include a championship point for pole position and prize money.
The current format, where the ten quickest drivers fight for the top spot in the final session with an amount of fuel decided by the teams, often sees pole position going to a car that's lighter than the rest.
FOTA will meet on December 4 and if the proposed format is agreed upon by all teams, it is expected to be submitted to the FIA for approval.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72203
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Donington revamp hits planning delay
Thursday, 20 November 2008 00:00
The sign-off for Donington Park’s redevelopment plan has been delayed by its local district council – raising fresh doubts about the venue's readiness to stage the British Grand Prix in 2010.
Donington won the contract to host Britain's GP from Silverstone earlier this year when Bernie Ecclestone signed a surprise 10-year deal with the Leicestershire circuit.
The owners are planning a £38 million redevelopment scheme to get the facility up to Formula 1 standards by 2010, including a new pit and paddock complex and an extension of the track itself.
Planning approval was expected this month, but North West Leicestershire District Council has postponed its decision until 27 January in order to carry out a full environmental impact assessment.
It means organisers will have just 14 months to complete work on the circuit before their self-imposed deadline of 1 April 2010.
Nevertheless, they remain confident that the construction work will be completed on schedule.
"There is no question that Donington's ability to stage the race will be jeopardised by this delay to the planning procedure," a spokesman told the Daily Telegraph newspaper.
"As soon as permission is granted construction work will begin."
Ecclestone has made it clear that Britain's race will simply be taken off the 2010 calendar if Donington cannot satisfy the FIA that it will be ready in time.
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.a...44640&PO=44640
11-22-2008, 11:11 PM
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11-26-2008, 02:46 AM
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The new aerodynamics look like ****. Im sure it will evolve alot between now and melbourne but still, ugly as crap. I loved the crazy aero on the 08 cars. I really liked how all the aero bits started to be connected like the side pods/barge boards and the chimney/side side pods and the t-wings/chimney or t-wings/top intake. The lines and curves of all the aero parts were beautiful and its regretable it wont evolve further. The BMWs, Williams, and McLarens had the most beautiful aerodynamics.
11-26-2008, 04:49 AM
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they are slowly killing F1.
Reducing downforce and such shames... bah. Hope the 2 old folks retire soon and leave wiser presidents\manager to keep the business up.
That's what happens when you have somebody focused on money instead of the sport itself.
Reducing downforce and such shames... bah. Hope the 2 old folks retire soon and leave wiser presidents\manager to keep the business up.
That's what happens when you have somebody focused on money instead of the sport itself.
11-30-2008, 09:05 AM
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Lowe: KERS to mix up order in 2009
Saturday, 29 November 2008 00:00 http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.a...44686&PO=44686
McLaren’s engineering boss Paddy Lowe expects the introduction of Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) will shake up the pecking order from circuit-to-circuit in 2009.
Next year cars will be allowed to run with KERS units to recover and store kinetic energy under deceleration and then use it as a boost to aid overtaking.
Lowe believes KERS will provide a greater advantage at some circuits over others, and as a result, the order at the front could change from race-to-race depending on which team has developed the best system and whether it suits the track.
“Certainly, the variation from circuit to circuit will be different,” he told McLaren’s official website.
“Also KERS will have more authority at some tracks than at others – so the pecking order from circuit to circuit may change a little bit.”
Lowe added that building a good KERS unit will be about reducing weight and making it more efficient rather than producing power, which will be capped at around 80bhp.
Many teams are already concerned that KERS will push the basic weight of their cars closer to the 600kg minimum, restricting the ability to adjust weight distribution with movable ballast.
As a result, Lowe believes the main battleground for KERS development will be on reducing weight and optimising its integration with the car’s set-up.
“There will definitely be constant development of the KERS device through the year,” said Lowe.
“One thing to bear in mind is that the ultimate idealised performance benefit of KERS is capped – because it’s limited in power and energy.
“So assuming you’ve delivered to that cap, you’re looking more into the domains of doing it for less weight or doing it more efficiently or more reliably.”
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F1: Will Ferrari, Renault Have KERS By Season Opener ???
Posted by: Admin on Nov 26, 2008 - 06:49 AM http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html...opic=1&catid=1
Major formula one teams Ferrari and Renault are yet to track test KERS systems, ahead of the energy-recovery technology's introduction next year.
It was believed that 2008 constructors' champions Ferrari had now begun circuit trials of its system, when the F2008K development car featured a conspicuous addition to the top of its right sidepod at last week's Barcelona test.
But the German magazine Auto Motor und Sport reveals that the sidepod bump concealed only ballast and a cooling mechanism for a so far absent KERS system.
It is suggested that Ferrari may finally get a KERS system, developed in conjunction with Magneti Marelli, up and running at the forthcoming Jerez test.
Renault is also benefitting from the input of Magneti Marelli, a Fiat subsidiary, and will begin KERS testing in January, with the introduction of the 2009 car.
The French team's engineering boss Pat Symonds said Renault never intended to build an interim car to accommodate a KERS system.
Here is the deal... KERS is not a required technology.
And there was some early thought that some teams may choose not to run KERS due to the additional weight and the reliability concerns.
But... Honda and BMW have been testing since early this summer, and some reports suggest BMW is showing a 80 horsepower boost from their system.
We continue to believe that 2009 will shake up the grid substantially, and show significant performance gaps between the 'haves' and the 'have nots'.
Saturday, 29 November 2008 00:00 http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.a...44686&PO=44686
McLaren’s engineering boss Paddy Lowe expects the introduction of Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) will shake up the pecking order from circuit-to-circuit in 2009.
Next year cars will be allowed to run with KERS units to recover and store kinetic energy under deceleration and then use it as a boost to aid overtaking.
Lowe believes KERS will provide a greater advantage at some circuits over others, and as a result, the order at the front could change from race-to-race depending on which team has developed the best system and whether it suits the track.
“Certainly, the variation from circuit to circuit will be different,” he told McLaren’s official website.
“Also KERS will have more authority at some tracks than at others – so the pecking order from circuit to circuit may change a little bit.”
Lowe added that building a good KERS unit will be about reducing weight and making it more efficient rather than producing power, which will be capped at around 80bhp.
Many teams are already concerned that KERS will push the basic weight of their cars closer to the 600kg minimum, restricting the ability to adjust weight distribution with movable ballast.
As a result, Lowe believes the main battleground for KERS development will be on reducing weight and optimising its integration with the car’s set-up.
“There will definitely be constant development of the KERS device through the year,” said Lowe.
“One thing to bear in mind is that the ultimate idealised performance benefit of KERS is capped – because it’s limited in power and energy.
“So assuming you’ve delivered to that cap, you’re looking more into the domains of doing it for less weight or doing it more efficiently or more reliably.”
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F1: Will Ferrari, Renault Have KERS By Season Opener ???
Posted by: Admin on Nov 26, 2008 - 06:49 AM http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html...opic=1&catid=1
Major formula one teams Ferrari and Renault are yet to track test KERS systems, ahead of the energy-recovery technology's introduction next year.
It was believed that 2008 constructors' champions Ferrari had now begun circuit trials of its system, when the F2008K development car featured a conspicuous addition to the top of its right sidepod at last week's Barcelona test.
But the German magazine Auto Motor und Sport reveals that the sidepod bump concealed only ballast and a cooling mechanism for a so far absent KERS system.
It is suggested that Ferrari may finally get a KERS system, developed in conjunction with Magneti Marelli, up and running at the forthcoming Jerez test.
Renault is also benefitting from the input of Magneti Marelli, a Fiat subsidiary, and will begin KERS testing in January, with the introduction of the 2009 car.
The French team's engineering boss Pat Symonds said Renault never intended to build an interim car to accommodate a KERS system.
Here is the deal... KERS is not a required technology.
And there was some early thought that some teams may choose not to run KERS due to the additional weight and the reliability concerns.
But... Honda and BMW have been testing since early this summer, and some reports suggest BMW is showing a 80 horsepower boost from their system.
We continue to believe that 2009 will shake up the grid substantially, and show significant performance gaps between the 'haves' and the 'have nots'.
12-01-2008, 02:26 AM
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Being a technology junkie I'm of the opinion that new technology that can improve race results should be explored. I'm looking forward to seeing a big red naaaaws button on the F1 steering wheel.
12-01-2008, 08:16 AM
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Naw. It takes away from a driver having to demonstrate ultimate skill(IMO) when trying to set someone up for a pass. Think about it. The only way (currently) to pass in F1 when trying to pass someone in a competitive car is to stay as close as possible and then try to outbreak them(unless we're talking about a long straight) without losing traction. With KERS who knows, but I envision a slower driver being able to pass a better one by simply pushing a magic button and that does not sound appealing to me.
12-01-2008, 11:41 AM
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12-01-2008, 11:47 AM
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12-01-2008, 12:16 PM
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Naw. It takes away from a driver having to demonstrate ultimate skill(IMO) when trying to set someone up for a pass. Think about it. The only way (currently) to pass in F1 when trying to pass someone in a competitive car is to stay as close as possible and then try to outbreak them(unless we're talking about a long straight) without losing traction. With KERS who knows, but I envision a slower driver being able to pass a better one by simply pushing a magic button and that does not sound appealing to me.
12-01-2008, 04:34 PM
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I don't see it that way. KERS adds an extra element of strategy. To use your example, if the faster driver uses KERS to pass, the slower driver will just use KERS to defend. Managing your KERS usage will add more dynamics to the races.
12-02-2008, 06:40 AM
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12-02-2008, 03:25 PM
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In todays news
Former Ferrari team mates , talking bs on one another. more after this jump
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9081202....llo-bitterness
Schu shrugs off Barrichello bitterness
December 2, 2008 3:32 PM
Filed Under: F1
Michael Schumacher has shrugged off the recent outspoken form of his former Ferrari teammate Rubens Barrichello.
The first signs of 2008 Honda driver Barrichello's renewed acrimony arose on the night of the season finale in Brazil, when the 36-year-old sang a derogatory song about the German at a nightclub.
Barrichello then continued his tirade by talking about the team orders saga of Austria 2002, saying Ferrari threatened him with the sack and accusing Schumacher of being directly involved.
At the weekend, they went head to head at Felipe Massa's charity kart event in southern Brazil, and after a slight tangle, Barrichello said: "It seemed like Schumacher thought he was in a war.
"Maybe he forgot that he is in Brazil now."
Schumacher has now responded in the pages of the major German newspaper Bild.
"He (Barrichello) is like that. He complains whether he is the winner or the loser," the seven time world champion said.
Barrichello defended his recent outspokenness about Schumacher.
"I have nothing personal against him," he insisted. "He is an exceptional driver. What I have said has been the truth.
"I just wanted to say that I could have achieved something more with Ferrari for Brazil in different circumstances."
Ferrari's press office declined to comment.
Alonso requires 'winning car' - Briatore
December 2, 2008 3:32 PM
Filed Under: F1
A contract will not be enough to keep Fernando Alonso at Renault beyond 2009, team boss Flavio Briatore has admitted.
After months of intense speculation, the French team announced last month that the 27-year-old Spaniard has signed to stay with Renault next year and also in 2010.
But in comments published by the news agency EFE, Italian Briatore said the only guarantee of keeping the former double world champion is a "winning car".
"We cannot offer him anything else," he explained.
"If you have a bad car, you won't keep any good driver."
Briatore added: "Our goal is to be world champions again in 2009 together with Fernando, and I think we have a good chance
on the ghey side of the news (even though i like hamilton alot)
Hamilton wants to jet into space
December 2, 2008 3:30 PM
Filed Under: F1
Lewis Hamilton is planning to spend an incredible (US) $1m on Christmas presents.
The 2008 world champion reportedly wants to take his girlfriend Nicole, and three members of his family, into space.
The Evening Standard said the five tickets on a 2010 flight of the highly exclusive new Virgin Galactic airline will cost the 23-year-old McLaren driver just shy of $1m.
"Lewis thinks it would be the perfect way to say thank you to Nicole and his family for their support throughout his triumphant year," said a source.
Former Ferrari team mates , talking bs on one another. more after this jump
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9081202....llo-bitterness
Schu shrugs off Barrichello bitterness
December 2, 2008 3:32 PM
Filed Under: F1
Michael Schumacher has shrugged off the recent outspoken form of his former Ferrari teammate Rubens Barrichello.
The first signs of 2008 Honda driver Barrichello's renewed acrimony arose on the night of the season finale in Brazil, when the 36-year-old sang a derogatory song about the German at a nightclub.
Barrichello then continued his tirade by talking about the team orders saga of Austria 2002, saying Ferrari threatened him with the sack and accusing Schumacher of being directly involved.
At the weekend, they went head to head at Felipe Massa's charity kart event in southern Brazil, and after a slight tangle, Barrichello said: "It seemed like Schumacher thought he was in a war.
"Maybe he forgot that he is in Brazil now."
Schumacher has now responded in the pages of the major German newspaper Bild.
"He (Barrichello) is like that. He complains whether he is the winner or the loser," the seven time world champion said.
Barrichello defended his recent outspokenness about Schumacher.
"I have nothing personal against him," he insisted. "He is an exceptional driver. What I have said has been the truth.
"I just wanted to say that I could have achieved something more with Ferrari for Brazil in different circumstances."
Ferrari's press office declined to comment.
Alonso requires 'winning car' - Briatore
December 2, 2008 3:32 PM
Filed Under: F1
A contract will not be enough to keep Fernando Alonso at Renault beyond 2009, team boss Flavio Briatore has admitted.
After months of intense speculation, the French team announced last month that the 27-year-old Spaniard has signed to stay with Renault next year and also in 2010.
But in comments published by the news agency EFE, Italian Briatore said the only guarantee of keeping the former double world champion is a "winning car".
"We cannot offer him anything else," he explained.
"If you have a bad car, you won't keep any good driver."
Briatore added: "Our goal is to be world champions again in 2009 together with Fernando, and I think we have a good chance
on the ghey side of the news (even though i like hamilton alot)
Hamilton wants to jet into space
December 2, 2008 3:30 PM
Filed Under: F1
Lewis Hamilton is planning to spend an incredible (US) $1m on Christmas presents.
The 2008 world champion reportedly wants to take his girlfriend Nicole, and three members of his family, into space.
The Evening Standard said the five tickets on a 2010 flight of the highly exclusive new Virgin Galactic airline will cost the 23-year-old McLaren driver just shy of $1m.
"Lewis thinks it would be the perfect way to say thank you to Nicole and his family for their support throughout his triumphant year," said a source.
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12-02-2008, 03:31 PM
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Barrichelo felt just like an angry kid. He could have said the truth but considering the way he did he went on the bad side.
A part from that i hate Briatore so i hope that alonso finds a good car in another team soon :p
A part from that i hate Briatore so i hope that alonso finds a good car in another team soon :p