NO Plan for New Rotary....THE END...maybe.
#351
40th anniversary Edition
Hey folks, Europe is an important market, but not Mazda's biggest for rotaries. If the new Rx is emissions compliant in all 50 states in the US, and is indeed a 300hp sports cars, then Mazda would gladly sell it here in the states, whether or not it sells in Europe.
Remember almost every car manufacturer has some different cars being sold in different markets around the world. Not every car model is sold worldwide. That has been the case for decades.
Remember almost every car manufacturer has some different cars being sold in different markets around the world. Not every car model is sold worldwide. That has been the case for decades.
#352
USA was a pitfall as big as europe with the rx8. I they can't sell the next car globally they simply won't sell it at all.
The States were a big failure for the fd... wonder why they kept selling it elsewhere 'till 2002, something that didn't happen across the pond.
The States were a big failure for the fd... wonder why they kept selling it elsewhere 'till 2002, something that didn't happen across the pond.
#354
The issues are CARB LEVIII related. That's as much as I can say on that matter. I am not sure how close the Euro requirements are but it would be interesting to compare.
Paul.
Paul.
#355
this is a comprehensive tabel of levels required
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/eu/ld.php
Last edited by MattMPS; 04-28-2011 at 10:14 AM.
#356
Out of NYC
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the car was good but ... 39K for a fully loaded FD in 1993 ... yep, I saw the Window Sticker that shows all option and I was like WOW.
consider in 1993 I can get a house around 100-150 K in NYC @ a really nice neighborhood ...
Last edited by nycgps; 04-28-2011 at 06:31 PM.
#357
priced was one of the most important "failure"
the car was good but ... 39K for a fully loaded FD in 1993 ... yep, I saw the Window Sticker that shows all option and I was like WOW.
consider in 1993 I can get a house around 100-150 K in NYC @ a really nice neighborhood ...
the car was good but ... 39K for a fully loaded FD in 1993 ... yep, I saw the Window Sticker that shows all option and I was like WOW.
consider in 1993 I can get a house around 100-150 K in NYC @ a really nice neighborhood ...
However i just couldn't stand that america-centric way of thinking and had to poke my head out again.
#358
40th anniversary Edition
I have owned seven rotary cars since 1972, RX3, RX4 (both sedan and coupe),all three generations of RX7, first gen (later modified to race in SCCA); Turbo II; and third Gen FD (yes the sticker on my fully loaded FD was $39,000) but it could leave $50,000 Porsches behind in its dust. And now both a 2008 40th Anniversary Edition RX8 and a 2008 Mazdaspeed3 GT.
Check the actual numbers, the US is STILL the biggest single country market for any RXs. Since the new RX won't be a huge production run car anyway, the US market will be crucial for sales. If Mazda can sell it here, that will be the key, and my contacts at Mazda USA in Irvine, Calif. tell me that is the plan. Mazda will do all it can to make the new RX meet euro emissions. But right now it still needs work in this area. Mazda has solved the emission issues in the past and they will solve this one too, count on it .
Check the actual numbers, the US is STILL the biggest single country market for any RXs. Since the new RX won't be a huge production run car anyway, the US market will be crucial for sales. If Mazda can sell it here, that will be the key, and my contacts at Mazda USA in Irvine, Calif. tell me that is the plan. Mazda will do all it can to make the new RX meet euro emissions. But right now it still needs work in this area. Mazda has solved the emission issues in the past and they will solve this one too, count on it .
Last edited by gwilliams6; 04-29-2011 at 07:12 AM.
#359
Check the actual numbers, the US is STILL the biggest single country market for any RXs. Since the new RX won't be a huge production run car anyway, the US market will be crucial for sales. If Mazda can sell it here, that will be the key, and my contacts at Mazda USA in Irvine, Calif. tell me that is the plan. Mazda will do all it can to make the new RX meet euro emissions. But right now it still needs work in this area. Mazda has solved the emission issues in the past and they will solve this one too, count on it .
Here in EU it will be always "marginal", except for Germany and UK market....
#360
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I wonder if they are testing with pure gas or the crap stuff we have. It seems the ethanol content will be 15% now? Since they dont test for the nasty stuff that produces, maybe that could help pass the emissions?
Rumor does have the new car with a power/weight ratio of 10:1 or better Now that is very good!! We all can see Mazda is trying everything to shed weight.
Rumor does have the new car with a power/weight ratio of 10:1 or better Now that is very good!! We all can see Mazda is trying everything to shed weight.
#361
How many Ford fiestas were sold across europe?
The real problem is that the manufacturers have to meet such standards not only with the single cars but with their "fleet average". A rotary that brings that number too close to the limit just won't happen.
They're stuck with these new requirements, face it. It's still a step forward from the "****, it's all aluminium and it overheats" Mazda had to face but still a step behind entering production.
All these delays are also mining durability tests.
All we have to do is cross our fingers and hope that a new rotary will come out in a couple of years from now.
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