Mazmart

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Yep, that's what I meant about changed dimensions. I think I may be the only person on this board who knows what the new width has changed to. Before people get all upset, I will at least say it's larger than 70mm.

Paul.

nycgps

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Honda is a *****, always, this is also the reason why they will never be able to Take over Toyota.

Just look at its lineup, most of the time its just behind whatever Toyota has. Your Prius & Camry Hybrid are out ? I get an Insight and Civic Hybrid. it was an epic failed attempt.

VW has been "kinda" pushing diesel here for quite some time. problem is most people are still living in their 80s And "thought" diesel is garbage, dirty, loud, only for trucks, etc. but people who "bought" them are really happy with it, at least MPG wise. so its gonna take quite some time for the word to go out. consider how stubborn people are in our country & stupid politicians still trying to push Ethanol.

Lets just see what Mazda gonna do.

All cars can be "everyday car", hell if I have the money I drive a Ferrari everyday. but long maintenance intervals (in italy) really kills it. 20K ? come on.

a lot of those stuff sounds good on paper but ... PICTURES ! or it didn't happen ! (pictures = actual car)

bse50

Meh... a rotary daily driven for less than 10\15kms a day in stop and go traffic won't last

MattMPS

20k kilometers are 12k miles

manteinance costs are a BIG issue here in Italy, some people don't understand that manteinance costs are part of a car's ownership and those costs are generating many problems with customers.

every manufacturer must deal with this situation...

i don't know situation in US ,but in no way you can go at jiffy lube to change oil and filter and mantain the warranty here in Italy, no matter if is a basic mazda2 or an Rx-8

bse50

Exactly, that's why I would never buy an used rx8 in italy nowadays. They all changed so many owners, have been so poorly serviced that you get them for dirt cheap only to spend a fortune putting them back together.
We also lack a forum that can give good support with knowledgeable members, just some random bar talk places

zoom44

no you're not

TALAN7

All I know is, that with my almost 8 years with my RX8, bad service, 2 engines, I don't know how many coils and spark plugs, 2 clutches, and numerous other parts, the latest being the oil metering pump...I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER MAZDA! I really like how the Mazdaspeed3 looks/performs but Mazdas' just don't last. They just aren't very reliable. Cool cars though! DEfinitely for the performance, they aren't worth it IMO.

nycgps

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12K is a lot dude.

but Dunno, oils should be cheap so do ya mind to tell me why is it so "expensive" to do maintenance stuff in Italy? because of laws or people just being cheap or just people overcharging ???

Well, the coil problem should be solved now, cuz now u can buy coils for around 27 bux and it comes with life time warranty.

outa 6 yrs of my ownership I got 1 engine replacement, most of the quirks I got were taken cared of under warranty. and now my b2b warranty expired almost 2 yrs so far no issue. Im happy This is why I bought a Mazda 3. giving me 18.6 mpg now, not the best of course, but not so bad I guess. just reach 5.2 K miles yesterday.

your OMP is bad? damn I feel ya pain, u can get a used one from Mazmart for cheap (if you still planning to keep your 8)

I have a FC, almost everything on it was original except for usual wear stuff. Engine was replaced around 30K miles ago(last owner said the last last owner did it, but it was a garbage build I can tell, I will rebuild it myself later), its still on its original OMP believe it or not, it has 211 K miles now lol. I think thats fairly reliable

nycgps

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This is why I hate you both !!!!!

05rx8mazda

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my 90 FC has 128K miles... baught it for 1,500
interior is in mint condition.. original owner..

problems it has/had is
-shocks blown
-omp sensor bad (going into limp mode)
-thermo sensor CEL (was unplugged to the sensor)
-mis fire (belts were loose)
-BACV is bad

Other than that its all original... GXL with 2+2...
most issue rose when he parked it for a year.. I mean thats pretty reliable for a 20+ year old car

MattMPS

both things.

i came up from a manteinace schedule of about the equivalent 1600 US dollars (taxes included) from my local dealer for my 6 MPS (a.k.a. 'speed6), WITHOUT HAVING A SINGLE PROBLEM, but with ALL operation from Mazda service book, a couple of front discs and brake pads + cleaning (with de-mount and re-mount) of engine radiator (a lot of insects, a big issue here in North Italy, better do....).

not exaclty cheap, but my car is almost "overmanteined" (words of the mech).

but run like a clock.

paulmasoner

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Well, I cant speak for Italy specifically, but in Belgium it is actually illegal to do any automotive work at your home. And I can tell ya assuming anything is cheap in Europe is a mistake. The very small time I've spent in a local automotive store gave me the impression most everything is about 30-50% more expensive than in the states(taking into account currency difference). I specifically recall the cheapest rattle can paint I could find was ~15 Euro. Anything involving a labor service is horridly expensive here as well. From listening to bse, I get the impression parts via any intranational means are expensive, and forget ordering anything internationally due to taxes

Mazmart

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And precisely why we love you (So easy to get you upset)

Paul.

MattMPS

+1.

being "car nut" in Europe is an expensive thing, i must swear, US guys......

nycgps

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My 91 FC has 211K on odo. got it for 1K BUT---- I sold the RB full exhaust it has and got almost 750 bux back, minus 90 bux shipping and like 40 bux to get a used exhaust manifold, 90 bux for Mangaflow cat, and 10 bux for the rest --- Car cost me around 4-500 bux? not too bad I guess.

Im the 5th owner (or was it 6th? dont remember), driver seat is bad, everything in the car is still original except for the engine, which the last owner said the last last owner changed it 30K miles ago but its already having a bad oil seal. due for an overhaul.

it also has
- blown shock -- but at 211K still on original shocks, I have no idea how the previous owners stand it, I replaced it with brand new Mazda shocks (its made by KYB, should've just got KYB less wait time, whatever), they have to get it from Japan. took 2 months to get to my home.
- anything brake related, I fixed the brakes myself, the scary **** was the rotor, it was the original rotor !!! lol ! the brake hose was about to break , lots of ****, need to replace the bearings. did the DTSS eliminator already, **** was a pain to do.
- Fixed the wiper switch myself
- need to rip the cheap **** alarm out and install a good one back in later.
- when im rebuilding the engine, I will take the whole drive train down and rebuild it, including the tranny and rear diff.
- and some other stuff to fix.

but at 211K, I guess all those stuff are due, I will make sure the car will be better than new when its done. hoho ~

so people working on cars must be rich over there ? *thinking of moving to somewhere in Europe*

MattMPS

you'll have to related to our fiscal systems.

good luck.

Mr.ThunderMakeR

It cracks me up how everyone thinks there is nothing left to improve upon with the rotory engine. Like because there haven't been any major improvements released recently, that means there must not be any more to be discovered. But the only reason they were able to release the Renesis is because they magically came up with side exhaust porting idea. Yet there are no other improvemenst like this to be made, simply because you and me can't think of them sitting here behind our PC's. I mean if average Joe (or even average mechanically-inclined car guy) can't think of it, then no educated engineer can possibly think of it, right?

I guess all engineers should start looking for new jobs since there is nothing left to engineer in the world.

Seriously though, if Mazda wants to contribute the resources to R&D for the rotory engine, I'm sure they can continue to improve it. Will it ever turn into a mass-produced major source of revenue? Probably not but the rotory engine never has been, its always been a niche and will likely remain so. That doesn't mean Mazda is gonna throw in the towel because they suddenly are only interested in manufacturing generic cars that will sell to the masses.

nycgps

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mind you, Side Exhaust port is actually not new, Mazda test it back in the 80s but a lot of stuff is not as advance as today (or should I say, 8 yrs ago) and it wasn't possible with back then's technology.

There are a lot of advancements in RE technology in the recent years. Just hope that Mazda can get them all working asap

Old Rotor

It's just that we want the next "ONE NOW".....I've had three 12A's, three 13B's(last one turboed) then the Excellent Reni and next..........will it be a S2 before the new RX?

ASH8

I guess we are lucky in Australia...at the moment.

We can import almost anything up to the value of $1000 AUD at a time, which is $999.00 USD, with NO extra taxes at all, not one, all you pay for is usual shipping/exchange.

Having said that 6 months ago that same $1K AU would be only $650 US, but since the US dollar is crap and the Aussie $ is almost at partity..well you can guess the rest..

You ought to hear the Large Retailer here whine!!!, the Government must act!..place a GST(VAT) on all these on-line imports coming into OZ...wah...wah...wah...it is not fair...boo hoo.

Gee I even imported a brand new S2 engine and paid no tax, as declaration was low and got it through Customs...me happy.

Probably wont last, the issue is though a 10% GST will cost our Government/Customs MORE to collect than what it is worth..

Welcome to a Free Trade World and On-line Shopping, as I said before the large retail store is a dinosaur..

10-15 years from now they will barely exist, just a storage Depot.

zoom44

and thats the part that never gets reported! you'll see some politician standing up there talking about his support for just such a GST and not one reporter will ask him a question about how much it costs to collect it.

bse50

That's why we pay 20% of the equivalent fee plus 5% for custom duties...

Mazmart

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Do you have proof of Mr O'Sullivan's pending departure or is this conjecture?

Paul.

nycgps

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nope, pure guessing.

I don't like him, not my type (damn that sounds gay) but what Im saying is I think he can do a lot better. or maybe someone more capable can do better ?

Mazmart

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Okay. He's actually one of the good guys and very instrumental in bringing positive change at Mazda. He's devoted to Mazda and relates well with his Japanese counterparts.

Thanks for clarifying.

Paul.