NO Plan for New Rotary....THE END...maybe.
02-28-2011, 07:45 AM
#226
Original post date of the above mentioned rx9 was 11.4.2010. I think we've heard other news since then.
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/mazda/2...e-ar99495.html
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/mazda/2...e-ar99495.html
02-28-2011, 12:53 PM
#227
40th anniversary Edition
If you follow the RX8Blog you would know that over the past few years they have been the most accurate source of updates and developments seemingly directly from Mazda. Every prediction from show cars to new engine development to ending of RX8, they were months ahead, and the first to reveal it, and they have gotten it right EACH TIME. And no one from Mazda has denied this leak.
I called Mazda USA in California and talked to a source ( I used to race RX7s with Mazda factory help and many contacts made over the decades) and they seem to indicate a car is indeed coming together with the biggest hurdles being new tougher emissions, weight reduction and fuel economy. Car will be direct injected, patent for this was already issued a while back. This will help the fuel economy and is better suited for supercharging in a rotary. Back in my racing days, we had to use hand-built side-ported rotary racing engines from Racing Beat that had low compression rotors to withstand the high boost pressures of our turbo chargers. Engines would put out 350-450 horsepower depending on fuel and ignition mapping from just a two-rotor 13B. Used only CAM2 racing fuel, and even though it is not recommended now, we used synthetic AMSOIL oil for racing durability. We could run a whole season on one engine while our chief rivals, the Zs and TR8s and Porsches had to change engines every other race.
Have owned six rotary Mazdas since the seventies.
I called Mazda USA in California and talked to a source ( I used to race RX7s with Mazda factory help and many contacts made over the decades) and they seem to indicate a car is indeed coming together with the biggest hurdles being new tougher emissions, weight reduction and fuel economy. Car will be direct injected, patent for this was already issued a while back. This will help the fuel economy and is better suited for supercharging in a rotary. Back in my racing days, we had to use hand-built side-ported rotary racing engines from Racing Beat that had low compression rotors to withstand the high boost pressures of our turbo chargers. Engines would put out 350-450 horsepower depending on fuel and ignition mapping from just a two-rotor 13B. Used only CAM2 racing fuel, and even though it is not recommended now, we used synthetic AMSOIL oil for racing durability. We could run a whole season on one engine while our chief rivals, the Zs and TR8s and Porsches had to change engines every other race.
Have owned six rotary Mazdas since the seventies.
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02-28-2011, 01:02 PM
#228
Momentum Keeps Me Going
Originally Posted by RX8Blog
The Mazda RX-8 wasn’t exactly a crowd pleaser with trickling sales damaging its already bruised reputation, so Mazda’s decision to axe the car before any further damage could be done was a smart one to say the least. The car more than likely won’t be missed, but Mazda has chosen to fill the void in their lineup anyway with a new model: the Mazda RX-9.
02-28-2011, 01:27 PM
#229
40th anniversary Edition
It is an RX8 blog and they have their opinion about the waning popularity of the car. I am a career journalist and the truth is important whether or not it always embraces my own enthusiasm for the car. New European emissions AND low sales after early model years engine problems help kill this great car. I will keep and enjoy mine nonetheless, just like you and host of other enthusiasts, but will probably be in line for the new one.
02-28-2011, 01:32 PM
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I WENT TO THE dealership and they had in thier magazine thaT the new shinari concept IS the new direction for the next sports car rx8, and that it had mazda advancez 1.3l rotary engine as the rx8.
and that it will be a 2+2 car.
and that it will be a 2+2 car.
02-28-2011, 01:48 PM
#231
40th anniversary Edition
Mazda is spending all its rotary development money on the 16X rotary direct-injected engine. It is 1.6 liters, vs the 1.3 liters of the Renesis engine. Larger combustion area, better fuel delivery with direct injection (as in the Mazdaspeed3 GT engine- direct injection allows the engine to handle greater boost pressures safely for more power, while keeping longevity for the engine). That will allow Mazda to supercharge this engine for more horsepower, and yet still get 20% better fuel economy than the Renesis engine. The new car will use design themes from the latest Shinara show car. Knowing Mazda , don't expect it to use the RX8 badge again. It will be a RX9 and not a RX7. Mazda will want a new car with its own aura. I am not so sure Mazda will ever do the suicide doors again, but if weight can be held down, a 2+2 is a better sell in the marketplace, but don't expect it to have the room of the RX8. Mazda is committed to going smaller and lighter to take advantage of the power to weight ratio to make a 300hp car a leader in its class.
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02-28-2011, 01:57 PM
#232
STOP THE PRESSES: Details of NEW RX9 coming in 2012. 16X engine, two door coupe built on MX5 platform, with electric supercharger, 300 HP and 20% better fuel economy
http://www.rx8blog.com/
http://www.rx8blog.com/
02-28-2011, 02:25 PM
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STOP THE PRESSES: Details of NEW RX9 coming in 2012. 16X engine, two door coupe built on MX5 platform, with electric supercharger, 300 HP and 20% better fuel economy
http://www.rx8blog.com/
http://www.rx8blog.com/
I think it'll turn out to be an awesome car.
03-01-2011, 08:47 AM
#235
If you follow the RX8Blog you would know that over the past few years they have been the most accurate source of updates and developments seemingly directly from Mazda. Every prediction from show cars to new engine development to ending of RX8, they were months ahead, and the first to reveal it, and they have gotten it right EACH TIME. And no one from Mazda has denied this leak. .
03-01-2011, 10:29 AM
#237
Momentum Keeps Me Going
...love the squishy words...
..."will probably"
..."will most likely have"
..."insiders say"
..."we heard"
..."prompting rumors"
..."debut sometime"
Let me see...maybe I can write for some mag...
..."will probably"
..."will most likely have"
..."insiders say"
..."we heard"
..."prompting rumors"
..."debut sometime"
Let me see...maybe I can write for some mag...
LATEST ROTARY NEWS: "We have confirmation - there are reports prompting rumors insiders say will probably debut sometime, we heard."
03-01-2011, 06:13 PM
#242
40th anniversary Edition
It is certainly coming, Mazda is spending a ton of money to hit a home run with this car, and have it be the Mazda flagship going forward. I have it from a longtime friend and reliable source at Mazda in California.
You can choose to believe it or not. This same sources have let me know about each upcoming rotary model, in advance, and I have been first in line with my order. RX3, RX4, RX7, RX7 Turbo II, RX7 twinturbo, RX8 40th Anniversary edition. I will be there first in line for this RX9 for sure. Look for it on sale in 2013 not 2014.
You can choose to believe it or not. This same sources have let me know about each upcoming rotary model, in advance, and I have been first in line with my order. RX3, RX4, RX7, RX7 Turbo II, RX7 twinturbo, RX8 40th Anniversary edition. I will be there first in line for this RX9 for sure. Look for it on sale in 2013 not 2014.
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03-02-2011, 08:25 AM
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Anyone read that R&T article? They called our engine the "Genesis". Lol! Yes, part of the RENESIS name is derived from that word, but that's not it. Come on now Road and Track!
03-02-2011, 09:55 AM
#247
Momentum Keeps Me Going
"There are reports that Mazda's rotary engine development team has grown from 30 members to 60 members in the last year..." isn't really a 'hard fact, is it'? It's only hearsay, or something based on hearing/reading something rather than on personal knowledge.
If it said, "Mazda says the development team has grown from 30 members to 60 members in the last year..." that would be stating a hard fact.
Maybe you know more .. something directly from Mazda...?
...can you give it up? 
If it said, "Mazda says the development team has grown from 30 members to 60 members in the last year..." that would be stating a hard fact.
Maybe you know more .. something directly from Mazda...?
...can you give it up?
03-02-2011, 01:12 PM
#248
There were close to 40 members 6 months ago and that is information from a member of the team directly. Would you like me to ask him to do an accurate head count?
Paul.
Paul.
03-02-2011, 04:05 PM
#250
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What Paul said exactly . What R&T said is accurate- whether it came straight from mazda or they heard it through the grapevine. Frankly since it was written by Sam Mitani it tells me he was told directly.
I believe I can speak for Paul when I say that we wouldn't consider asking for and divulging information on the interweb that would compromise our friends job.
I believe I can speak for Paul when I say that we wouldn't consider asking for and divulging information on the interweb that would compromise our friends job.