I want to trade in my car for a MINI Cooper
04-28-2005, 05:54 PM
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to bad the US, king of all SUV countries, doesn't get the Smarts. i'm not exactly sure, so don't quote me on this, but europe and japan have these small cars b/c of the lack of space. don't they also have fewer accidents then we do?? we must be doing something wrong
04-28-2005, 06:03 PM
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Yeah in most european countries its A LOT harder to get a driver's license than in North America...that's probably partially to blame for how much we suck at driving 
04-28-2005, 06:07 PM
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My brother owns a mini cooper S. He's getting around 26mpg driving hard. He's looking to trade it in for a mini s convertible which are getting 31mpg..
I drove his car. It was fun to drive and peppy because it was so light. I wouldn't buy anything other than an S tho. W/O that supercharger, damn it's weak.
I drove his car. It was fun to drive and peppy because it was so light. I wouldn't buy anything other than an S tho. W/O that supercharger, damn it's weak.
04-28-2005, 06:09 PM
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I have a MINI Cooper 1.6 115ps (not the S) and it is a great car!!
I use it for city driving and it is the best car to do the job
the 8, on the other hand, is in its own class...
I use it for city driving and it is the best car to do the job
the 8, on the other hand, is in its own class...
04-28-2005, 06:11 PM
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i've done some earlier John Cooper WORKS kits and i must say, for $7000, it's not worth it at all.
all it basically consists of his a better flowing head, bigger supercharger (same size pulley, i think), injectors, air box, catback exhaust, and reprogramming of the DME (computer). i think you get a whopping 40 hp. and you really don't feel any difference. maybe a small amount in the midrange.
there are some other companies out there that offer better hp figures.
all it basically consists of his a better flowing head, bigger supercharger (same size pulley, i think), injectors, air box, catback exhaust, and reprogramming of the DME (computer). i think you get a whopping 40 hp. and you really don't feel any difference. maybe a small amount in the midrange.
there are some other companies out there that offer better hp figures.
04-28-2005, 06:11 PM
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to bad the US, king of all SUV countries, doesn't get the Smarts.
As for on-topic, this guy must owe money on his car as he's worried about getting enough to get out from under it. So I'm betting he owes a pretty good chunk. Trading in a car that you're likely to lose several thousand dollars on to save $30/week on gas is just plain stupid.
If you lose $4,000 on the trade (which wouldn't be unheard of at all) it will take you 3 years to pay that difference off.
And how does someone who puts "every penny they make" into an $80/week gas bill afford an RX-8?
04-28-2005, 06:28 PM
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wow...this rx-8 board is really something. Everytime a member leaves to get another car, you all jump down his throat. Can you say "INSECURITY"? Why not wish him luck? He never put down the Rx-8, he just stated the experience he had with it.
Same thing happened here as to the thread regarding someone moving over to a C5, an S2000 or a 350z. I'll bet we'll still see complaints if someone decided to upgrade to a Ferrari or something.
Same thing happened here as to the thread regarding someone moving over to a C5, an S2000 or a 350z. I'll bet we'll still see complaints if someone decided to upgrade to a Ferrari or something.
04-28-2005, 06:34 PM
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Trading the car is one thing - but giving bad excuses is what brings this out in people.
Saying he can't afford the gas money on a $30k car, blaming dents and such, saying the car is less safe than a Mini, etc...all lead to owners being somewhat defensive because it's sorry excuses like this that pollute this site.
If he had simply said "The RX8 is not for me, I think I'll try my luck with a different car", he would have had far less replies.
Saying he can't afford the gas money on a $30k car, blaming dents and such, saying the car is less safe than a Mini, etc...all lead to owners being somewhat defensive because it's sorry excuses like this that pollute this site.
If he had simply said "The RX8 is not for me, I think I'll try my luck with a different car", he would have had far less replies.
04-28-2005, 07:01 PM
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eh the mini is nice, but my friends is in the shop more than my FD (and any rotorhead knows thats an assload) but most all of it is coverd by MINI... BMW is just really good about that stuff
not to menton he was one of the first people to get one, so its probably finiky
p.s. he has 25k on it and is on his second clutch, just somthing to think about
not to menton he was one of the first people to get one, so its probably finiky
p.s. he has 25k on it and is on his second clutch, just somthing to think about
04-28-2005, 07:37 PM
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1/4 mile in 14.8??.....ok....unless I missed that article, I just looked at saw the mini-s listed at 15.2-15.8 in the 1/4??...not even close to 14.8?
Car and driver had it here
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
not even close to 14.8?.....
Car and driver had it here
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
not even close to 14.8?.....
04-28-2005, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Saint_Spinner
wow...this rx-8 board is really something. Everytime a member leaves to get another car, you all jump down his throat. Can you say "INSECURITY"? Why not wish him luck? He never put down the Rx-8, he just stated the experience he had with it.
Same thing happened here as to the thread regarding someone moving over to a C5, an S2000 or a 350z. I'll bet we'll still see complaints if someone decided to upgrade to a Ferrari or something.
Same thing happened here as to the thread regarding someone moving over to a C5, an S2000 or a 350z. I'll bet we'll still see complaints if someone decided to upgrade to a Ferrari or something.
I agree people are being a little hard on him, but he's got a bit of a history on here for this type of thing, so he had to expect it was coming.
04-28-2005, 08:27 PM
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Some questions:
1. Why is everyone so upset that he wants to trade in his car? It isn't like he's trading in YOUR car...
2. Why does he feel the need to post about trading in his car? If he wants feedback about the mini, couldn't he maybe post in a less inflammatory manner?
3. Has he done a cost analysis of gas savings vs increased payments? At this point in the life of his car, he could be very deep in the tub and the payments might be exceptionally high, outweighing the decreased gas costs.
4. Again, why is everyone so upset? The 8 isn't for everyone... don't we all know this?
Anyway, this is what I was going to say when I initially read his post:
"Good luck on the mini... You might want to make sure that you'll actually be saving money with the trade, though..."
1. Why is everyone so upset that he wants to trade in his car? It isn't like he's trading in YOUR car...
2. Why does he feel the need to post about trading in his car? If he wants feedback about the mini, couldn't he maybe post in a less inflammatory manner?
3. Has he done a cost analysis of gas savings vs increased payments? At this point in the life of his car, he could be very deep in the tub and the payments might be exceptionally high, outweighing the decreased gas costs.
4. Again, why is everyone so upset? The 8 isn't for everyone... don't we all know this?
Anyway, this is what I was going to say when I initially read his post:
"Good luck on the mini... You might want to make sure that you'll actually be saving money with the trade, though..."