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Old 06-18-2007, 02:32 AM
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RE deal is to rebuilt the engine at 0.001mm precision. Factory come out is 0.03mm precision. That's why they charge so high price. Bear in mind that factory produce a lot everyday and RE treat your engine individually. Anyway, to be safe, buy a new engine. When I get my car, then I can comment if the RE deal worth it.
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Originally Posted by Zero_Rotary
Its RM...Its not new engine...used one...not sure if its cheaper to buy in KL?
Don't forget one thing..... Malaysia have 30% import tax, plus OZ's might not been rebuild..... Last time i ask for 2nd hand without rebuilt from RotorMaster oso cost RM11,000.....
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Originally Posted by csl
RE deal is to rebuilt the engine at 0.001mm precision. Factory come out is 0.03mm precision. That's why they charge so high price. Bear in mind that factory produce a lot everyday and RE treat your engine individually. Anyway, to be safe, buy a new engine. When I get my car, then I can comment if the RE deal worth it.
In Japan, most rotary owners rebuilt they're car yearly...... That's why RE is so busy.... 0.01mm or 0.03mm won't make much differents, when times come it just end up the same..... KABOOM!!!!!! hehehhe
Old 06-18-2007, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Goober8
Blown engine should sound like Marbles in a can. DId you hear this? HOpe everything will be fine for you
I get the ratlling sound all the time. Engine still ok (touch wood, as in kayu, not woodtcb)
Old 06-18-2007, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by lennon
In Japan, most rotary owners rebuilt they're car yearly...... That's why RE is so busy.... 0.01mm or 0.03mm won't make much differents, when times come it just end up the same..... KABOOM!!!!!! hehehhe
0.001mm la against 0.03mm. That's quite a significant difference. But if what you said is true, then I guess people go to Amemiya to maximise the enjoyment of the engine before it goes KABOOM?
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Originally Posted by Zero_Rotary
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better just buy new engine from OZ la...if you rebuild you'll need to send the engine to KL again right? Or u can rebuild there in Sabah?
Thanks for ur opinion bro. but sending it from aussie will be problem to me cause i need to tackle the custom and documentation myself. if i rebuild the mech in kl already promise to come over cause there is 2 car tat need to be fix here. which blow on the same day.
Old 06-18-2007, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by lennon
I'm curious! Is it RM11,000 or Brunei Dollar 10,000?? If it's RM, then definitely not brand new....... BTW, many Aus tuners bought engine from Mal b4, like hard-to-get20b....
actually i found a 20b auto that i love. but its not suit for rx8. cause u will lose all the meters function.
Old 06-18-2007, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ong Wei Ping
Hi there, joined this forum long time ago but... didnt post a message. I am Ong Wei Ping from Ipoh Perak, Malaysia. Age 22, male studying at USM Penang. Didnt own rx-8, not enough money to buy that, but Im its fans ^^. Now driving Gen-2... father bought for me. Hope not posting in the wrong thread.
welcome to the club. hope u get a 8 soon.
Old 06-18-2007, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by csl
RE deal is to rebuilt the engine at 0.001mm precision. Factory come out is 0.03mm precision. That's why they charge so high price. Bear in mind that factory produce a lot everyday and RE treat your engine individually. Anyway, to be safe, buy a new engine. When I get my car, then I can comment if the RE deal worth it.

Bro i am still waiting for the price to be made. ah choy say at least 10k for my repair. i think if its around there i will do rebuild. if its over then i prefer buy a new engine at 20k.

since mine is second rotor broken. all i can think of is changing : apex seal set, rotor ring set, gasket and water seal set, may be engine housing and rotor.

all these parts need 10k?

don't forget the hotel, air ticket and labour charge is not inculded yet.

if all these add up almost to 20k i will buy a new engine. cause every part in the engine is new. engine is a tear and wear kinda thing. of course at the end of the day its all go down to kaboom, totally agree. but it might not go kaboom so soon i guess.

don't know why. although the engine blow. and i am all in a trouble to get it fix. i still love this car.

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Old 06-18-2007, 04:06 AM
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Trick is to always keep an engine on stand-by....... Sooo, when it goes "KABOOM"..... just swap engines and rebuild the blown 1 for stand-by again....That's what i did when i had my previous Rx7...... This way, ur car doesn't get stranded @ the workshop too long....

Trying to do it for my Rx8...... Need to source a used unit first larrr..... Or, if i have enuff funds to play with, buy a brand new 1 and put that on stand-by..... All depends on budget.....

Now got family, cash goes to my house, wife and daughters first....then only go to my car....
Before (single + Rx7), only throw money at my car......hahahahaha........
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seem like the oil cooler i have doesn't help much.
Old 06-18-2007, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by lennon
Don't forget one thing..... Malaysia have 30% import tax, plus OZ's might not been rebuild..... Last time i ask for 2nd hand without rebuilt from RotorMaster oso cost RM11,000.....
My friend bought the engine from OZ he only change price on the receipt so he only paid ard RM1K for the 20% tax here...labour to install the engine ard RM600

total spent aprox ard RM12600 +/-
Old 06-18-2007, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by theboy
Thanks for ur opinion bro. but sending it from aussie will be problem to me cause i need to tackle the custom and documentation myself. if i rebuild the mech in kl already promise to come over cause there is 2 car tat need to be fix here. which blow on the same day.

Oh like that should be cheaper if you guys share...but thats really weird 2 cars blown on the same day?! that day must be jinx...sorry for your loss
Old 06-18-2007, 08:04 AM
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its ok. company car. still love my rotary.
Old 06-18-2007, 11:12 AM
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wah... u all say till like tat... i got a fear to buy RX8 already.... scare liao, havent chinese new year already heard here boom there kaboom...
somemore 1 day 2 shots...
really dun understand why can blow... izzit every RX8 one day will meet the same problem like tat ?
Old 06-18-2007, 04:05 PM
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I guess changing the seal kit once a year or at certain mileage will be able to solve the problem. Of cause, driving habit contribute a lot too.
Old 06-18-2007, 08:28 PM
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how much would it cost just to change the seals ?
Old 06-18-2007, 09:05 PM
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dont buy the used engine la...our engine got life time one,better rebuild it....and no need to buy the new one le.....
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i think before it blow just change the apex seal will do... but since it already blow... i think got alot think to change ed.. i though is just cost 4k to5k to change the seal... other RX7 happen like tis before ? I thought change it in 80k to 100,000km, unless u rev alot... else change it at 50k once... before it happen, does tempreture go up high ? or just kaboom with no warning ?

see this 2nd renesis engine coming on year 2010
http://www.speedtv.com/articles/tech...omotive/36350/
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Originally Posted by theboy
actually i found a 20b auto that i love. but its not suit for rx8. cause u will lose all the meters function.
Can be done without sacrificing current features, but very time consumming... You take some, you give some....
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Originally Posted by theboy
Bro i am still waiting for the price to be made. ah choy say at least 10k for my repair. i think if its around there i will do rebuild. if its over then i prefer buy a new engine at 20k.

since mine is second rotor broken. all i can think of is changing : apex seal set, rotor ring set, gasket and water seal set, may be engine housing and rotor.

all these parts need 10k?

don't forget the hotel, air ticket and labour charge is not inculded yet.

if all these add up almost to 20k i will buy a new engine. cause every part in the engine is new. engine is a tear and wear kinda thing. of course at the end of the day its all go down to kaboom, totally agree. but it might not go kaboom so soon i guess.

don't know why. although the engine blow. and i am all in a trouble to get it fix. i still love this car.
I calculated RM11,500 (apex seals, gasket, 2 NEW rotor housings, 1 NEW middle section housing, 1 NEW rear housing and labour) without shipment and flight..... If Ah Choy gonna get more from you, you might just ask for local help.......

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As for my only experience, when you hear the exhaust sound suddenly increased compare to normal, don't drive or at lease don't rev the car. Send to mechanic to do a compression test. Before mine blew up, the exhaust sound did increased and sounds like the N1 style exhaust. I thought it was the exhaust problem only and keep on revving, then blew.

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Originally Posted by lennon
I calculated RM9,000 plus labour, without shipment and flight..... If Ah Choy gonna get more from you, you might just ask for local help.......
I reckon that don't save the few K ringgit from doing the right thing at the 1st time.
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Originally Posted by csl
I reckon that don't save the few K ringgit from doing the right thing at the 1st time.
Yup, you're right..... I always have 1 new engine standing by.......
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Originally Posted by csl
As for my only experience, when you hear the exhaust sound suddenly increased compare to normal, don't drive or at lease don't rev the car. Send to mechanic to do a compression test. Before mine blew up, the exhaust sound did increased and sounds like the N1 style exhaust. I thought it was the exhaust problem only and keep on revving, then blew.
In you case is different, you blow it while you're over-reving it straight after oil change....... There're heaps of ways to blow it....


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