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Old 07-31-2009, 12:56 PM
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Time to be daring and different... Maybe?

Alright all, Im thinking of new wheels here. Im wanting to go with some Buddy Club P1 Racing SF in white w/ red lip at 18x8.5 with a 40mm offset. I have a 05 VR GT. Take a look at the wheels here.




If anyone has a picture of these wheels or any white wheels on a VR 8 let me know because I've been searching all day and cant find anything.


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If you're only doing 8.5" why not a +30? I'm not familiar with that wheel so I don't know if they make them in that offset, but +40 seems too high for an 8.5" wheel
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yeah they make them in the offest of 30mm, I'll probably end up going with 30 but I'm not too sure yet. I have more research to do
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+30 will fit fine with 8.5" rims

You could go to a 9.5 +35 and run up to 255 tires and fit OK as well, as long as you aren't slammed

275 tires will require a roll in the rear with 9.5 +35...
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do +30 here are my 8.5's +30 for reference...






those are with stock tires...225/45/18
hope this helps
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THose would look sick... I've looked at them but they just arent wide enough for me
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I'd say go with the +40. I'm all for being as close to the stock scrub radius as possible. From a performance perspective, it can only help. Then again I'm the guy that's going from a +42 wheel to something that has the stock +50.

Of course, if you're only doing this for looks, then go with whatever you want.
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performance wise how does staying as close to stock as possible help?^^^

also im lowered about an inch all around and i dont rub just a little FYI for the OP
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from a performance perspective, isn't a wider stance better?
also more tire is definitely better.
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Originally Posted by Symbioticgenius
from a performance perspective, isn't a wider stance better?
also more tire is definitely better.
that's what i'm trying to get at lol
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Originally Posted by vbrad26
performance wise how does staying as close to stock as possible help?^^^

also im lowered about an inch all around and i dont rub just a little FYI for the OP
don't be too quick to disagree on lionzoo's comment. but also don't be too quick to agree either.

his recommendation isn't bad either... and if the OP is gonna be doing mostly street driving, then a higher offset rim is gonna be easier on vvheel bearings and such.

the choice here really depends on vvhat kind of driving he is going to do.

so the dimensions lionzoo mentions isn't a bad choice keeping the car streetable, and isn't gonna hurt anything...
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Originally Posted by Symbioticgenius
from a performance perspective, isn't a wider stance better?
also more tire is definitely better.
Definitely, a wider stance is helpful. I must admit I was incorrect. Sadly the most conclusive answer I can provide here is "I don't know". What I meant to say is being conservative and without knowing the details of how the steering system and suspension geometry was determined, I find it safest to stay as close to the stock scrub radius as possible to avoid any ill effects. It may very well be that a lower offset is faster around a racetrack, but there is very likely to be tradeoffs in wear, feel, etc. that is less well understood by anyone that isn't a Mazda suspension engineer. Therefore to be conservative I try to stick as close to stock.

Of course with a higher offset, you can potentially fit a wider tire in the wheelwell of the RX-8 and that is probably the easiest way to go faster around a racetrack. However that doesn't apply to you as you're going with a 8.5" width, so my apologies for being misleading.

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Originally Posted by vbrad26
do +30 here are my 8.5's +30 for reference...






those are with stock tires...225/45/18
hope this helps
Why not a bigger tire? That would look sick with a 245
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Originally Posted by TrochoidMagic
don't be too quick to disagree on lionzoo's comment. but also don't be too quick to agree either.

his recommendation isn't bad either... and if the OP is gonna be doing mostly street driving, then a higher offset rim is gonna be easier on vvheel bearings and such.

the choice here really depends on vvhat kind of driving he is going to do.

so the dimensions lionzoo mentions isn't a bad choice keeping the car streetable, and isn't gonna hurt anything...
so are you saying that if i was running a 9.5inch wide wheel with a +25 offset that the car wouldn't be well suited for daily driving?

and also how is a lower offset any more harsh on the wheel bearings than a higher one...
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RickA- it would rub lol plus im planning to lower the car a bit more...thats wh i dont have a wider tire...imo it would look to big...in person i think the 225s look a bit big lol i cant fit a finger and a half between the wheel well and the tire as it sits now
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Originally Posted by vbrad26
so are you saying that if i was running a 9.5inch wide wheel with a +25 offset that the car wouldn't be well suited for daily driving?

and also how is a lower offset any more harsh on the wheel bearings than a higher one...
The problem with a 9.5 inch +25 is that it'll rub unless you do some serious fender work. Also, if you're just going to daily drive the car, the extra weight of the width and the higher price is going to be a negative. Unless of course you just want the look, and plenty of people are willing to pay to get that look.

A lower offset places the weight of the wheel further away from the bearing in the lateral direction. This makes a longer lever arm that increases the stress on the bearings in the non-radial direction.
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ok i see what you are saying lion and it makes sense

i guess i was just basing that on an 18x9.5 enkei rpf1 that comes in at just under 19lbs which is close to stock i believe...and i know most wide wheels aren't that light

also i just assumed that fender rolling was acceptable for a daily driver if need be lol

and to the OP here is a good site to buy from http://www.fluidmotorsports.com/p-10...cessories.aspx

id say do 18x8.5 +30 or 18x9 +40 if you are going to be looking for a little bit more aggressive look than stock...if you want to be even more aggressive do 18x9+30 lol

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Thanks to all who have replied you have been helpful. Im looking for both look and performance. But the car is mostly street driven./ Those buddy clubs wheels weigh 19.5lbs I believe.

I am ordering from Fluid for the wheels. I'm going to go with 18x8.5 +30 and a 245/40/18 tire size. So with that setup I should be clear of rubbing?
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good choice with fluid! hope you checked the link.

as for your set up i think you should be fine unless you are lowered. if you are lowered then your tire MAY rub the plastic liner when u turn or hit a bump which really is not a big deal if u dont mind the brief sound it makes...or u could always ditch the liners lol or run some negative camber

im lowered about an inch all around with an 18x8.5 +30 with a 225/45 and have never rubbed...i'd pm topgear and see what he thinks or just post in the will it fit thread...or even PM brice from fluid and ask him what he thinks.

but overall i think you will be fine with that set up and it will look good
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I'm still stock height. So I'm going to get these wheels as my next mod with new tires and see how I like it then determine if I want to lower it or not.
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sounds like a plan...and hey if you end up getting the car a little lower and it rubs there are things you can do to prevent it as im sure u are already aware lol so IMO: not a big deal

i think the rims will look great on your car! red on white sounds bad *** haha
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