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Old 06-24-2008, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by robrecht
Easy, how lean are you running with your Access Port? Is that part of your heat equation, has the overheating gotten worse with leaner AFRs?
Took the access port map out last week and it's stock settings. Basically it was just turning the fans on sooner 185/195 and more oil from the OMP.

Originally Posted by Jedi54
any update from the dealership?
Just talked to them and they say in about a week Mazda is sending one of their engineers over. Third time it will be. At least it'll be HOT when they get here this time.



Originally Posted by 09Factor
Just though of something Easy,
Do you have the RB oil cooler screen installed?
No.
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Hmmm, just a thought. I was thinking the Rb screens disrupted the air flow.
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damn Easy, good luck next week. At least mazda is taking your concerns seriously and not just brushing you off.
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
damn Easy, good luck next week. At least mazda is taking your concerns seriously and not just brushing you off.
They have been for a couple of years.



And I do thank them.
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Better late then never??? They're trying to avoid #5???
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The main thing at this point is they are trying to do something. They have tried in the past with this same issue, but it was to late in the year. The temps had already dropped back into the 80's when they were here last.
Now I got 'em coming when it's sizzling outside. Hope those engineers like it HOT!
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Holy crap dude, I feel so bad for you having this many problems! You should have a new car.

maybe they messed something up putting in the 4th engine....
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Originally Posted by fahrfegneugen
Holy crap dude, I feel so bad for you having this many problems!

maybe they messed something up putting in the 4th engine....
What "many"? I just have one now. Refer to avatar. ALL other past problems with the car have been taken care of by Mazda.

And no they did not mess up putting in the fourth engine. The Tech is a close personal friend of mine and Berge Mazda is in my opinion the best dealership in Arizona.

Thanks for the kind words though.
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haha, yeah, sorry...

Ill just shut up

best luck dude
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Originally Posted by fahrfegneugen
haha, yeah, sorry...

Ill just shut up

best luck dude
It's not a problem dude. You didn't know the whole scenario of whats happening. And like I said I appreciate the concern.
Stay tuned to see what the outcome is.
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will do
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what an awesome troubleshooting move "let's take off your hood".. lol.
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Originally Posted by alz0rz
what an awesome troubleshooting move "let's take off your hood".. lol.
Well if you think about it, it's one way to see if air flow out of the engine bay is an issue. Or whether it's just sitting under the hood holding heat.
Last year they worked on getting as much air into the radiator as possible.
So you really might think this is silly but it has it's merits.

But it does sound silly.
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Good luck with all this Erick.

I am interested in how the Mazda people will respond to the water pump mod. Been thinking of getting one myself...
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Im very very surprise that they still have not solve ur problem.

Im sure u're not the only AT in the whole state, have you asked about did any other ATs got the same issue as you do >?
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Good luck Eric! This engineer coming from Japan? Maybe he will figure it out before he passes out from the heat.

Then again, he could like the Brits I work with, and be half lizard, and sit in the sun soaking up all the heat he can get!
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Im very very surprise that they still have not solve ur problem.

Im sure u're not the only AT in the whole state, have you asked about did any other ATs got the same issue as you do >?
Actually I've been talking to a couple of 07 AT owners. They have some of the same issues.
The thing about this problem is that most AT ( I'm gonna hate myself for saying this) are women and men they don't pay attention to the dash gauges. They bought the car cause it was cute. No mechanical inclinations at all.
Another thing is when Mazda did the engine temp calibration on the gauge , they did it as such as to not show that the engine was in any danger of over heating or was overheating. (Whether this was purposeful or accidental I do not know.)
90% of the time it doesn't move. And then when it hits a high temp of 231 degrees it only moves about 1/4 to 1/2 from center to the top.
I have seen a full 3/4 gauge reading and I don't know how hot that was. Guessing,, 255+- degrees.
Most people wouldn't know that the car was getting hot. They are all thinking that there's a problem with there A/C system. "Oh it's blowing hot." Not knowing the engine is actually hot and the ECU is shutting the A/C off to remove load from the engine and hopefully cool it down faster.
They take the car to the dealer and have the A/C checked. "Oh Miss/Mr./Ms. Blah Blah Blah your A/C system is fine."
Off on there merry way they go unaware of what is happening.
I was talking to the dealer about this very thing today. And he said he had a couple of people come in with just that scenario. Checked the cars and nothing wrong with the AC system. The dealer said he would watch that scenario more closely now too.
So you can kind of see the perplexing situation I'm in and a lot of innocent Mazda owners are in unknowingly.

Was that enlightening?
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Originally Posted by olddragger

2- shake a bottle of redline water wetter then shake a bottle of the DEI. Now notice a difference. The redline will foam like crazy , the dei doesnt---foam is not good in a cooling system.
Why would that matter in a pressurized system, where the only air "should" be at the top of the overflow tank. Assuming that you would need some amount of air to make foam from water.
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How about concentrating on the hot spots?

We have infared images posted here.

Find the hot spot, bring in more air.

Wrap it with Dragster fire retardant material etc..
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This might be a dumb question, but if you cranked on the heater, would it draw heat from the engine? Not that you would do that in 100 degree weather...
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
The thing about this problem is that most AT ( I'm gonna hate myself for saying this) are women and men they don't pay attention to the dash gauges. They bought the car cause it was cute. No mechanical inclinations at all.:
my thoughts exactly ....
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Originally Posted by fahrfegneugen
This might be a dumb question, but if you cranked on the heater, would it draw heat from the engine? Not that you would do that in 100 degree weather...
yup - this is an old trick .... If only you could direct the heater air to outside the car and still be able to use the a/c ......
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Actually I've been talking to a couple of 07 AT owners. They have some of the same issues.
The thing about this problem is that most AT ( I'm gonna hate myself for saying this) are women and men they don't pay attention to the dash gauges. They bought the car cause it was cute. No mechanical inclinations at all.
Another thing is when Mazda did the engine temp calibration on the gauge , they did it as such as to not show that the engine was in any danger of over heating or was overheating. (Whether this was purposeful or accidental I do not know.)
90% of the time it doesn't move. And then when it hits a high temp of 231 degrees it only moves about 1/4 to 1/2 from center to the top.
I have seen a full 3/4 gauge reading and I don't know how hot that was. Guessing,, 255+- degrees.
Most people wouldn't know that the car was getting hot. They are all thinking that there's a problem with there A/C system. "Oh it's blowing hot." Not knowing the engine is actually hot and the ECU is shutting the A/C off to remove load from the engine and hopefully cool it down faster.
They take the car to the dealer and have the A/C checked. "Oh Miss/Mr./Ms. Blah Blah Blah your A/C system is fine."
Off on there merry way they go unaware of what is happening.
I was talking to the dealer about this very thing today. And he said he had a couple of people come in with just that scenario. Checked the cars and nothing wrong with the AC system. The dealer said he would watch that scenario more closely now too.
So you can kind of see the perplexing situation I'm in and a lot of innocent Mazda owners are in unknowingly.

Was that enlightening?
I hear ya, yeah ... thats a big problem, people are buying the car cuz its cute, and never cared about the car.

I wish Im in AZ next week, so maybe I can use some of my broken Japanese to ask those people a few questions.

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Originally Posted by Brettus
yup - this is an old trick .... If only you could direct the heater air to outside the car and still be able to use the a/c ......
well and it would be a temporary solution when you are hitting 240 degrees.
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Originally Posted by Razz1
How about concentrating on the hot spots?

We have infared images posted here.

Find the hot spot, bring in more air.

Wrap it with Dragster fire retardant material etc..
Problem is EVERYTHING IS HOT! Where do you start?


Originally Posted by fahrfegneugen
This might be a dumb question, but if you cranked on the heater, would it draw heat from the engine? Not that you would do that in 100 degree weather...
Yes it works rather nicely in dropping temps, but it also cooks your eyeballs when it's 115 degrees out side. We tried it in Mazdmaniacs car the other day. It dropped the coolant temps 10 degrees in less than a couple of minutes.
But hell if I'm going to run around with the heater on when I have AC.


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