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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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good luck!!!
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Well I picked her up tonight. Drove home the usual way and no problems. Of course it was only about 98 degrees today so it was cool out. I'll see what happens in the next few days of driving.

And let me tell you something.
Don't go from a 350Z to and AT RX-8. I almost cried.
Only in the difference in power. NOTHING ELSE!
I love the RX-8, and the Only thing the Z has is a bit more power. Period!
The RX-8 has everything else. Looks, comfort, smooth and quite ride. I'm in heaven, Mazda Heaven,,,,,,,

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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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easy1,

did you watch them do it??? did they use the weird vacuum long tube thing to get the old out and put the new in??????

i bet they did the change as you said, but they also got some air out of the system..

beers
Its not my first day filling the cooling system in a RX-8!!

Erick- Glad to hear the drive home was good, please keep me informed about how the car is running and if you have anymore issues. Ill be sending an email to Mazda about the FL22 coolant.

If anyone here in the west region changes there coolant and uses the FL22, just mix it 50/50 with distilled water and all will be good.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rotaryman25
Its not my first day filling the cooling system in a RX-8!!

Erick- Glad to hear the drive home was good, please keep me informed about how the car is running and if you have anymore issues. Ill be sending an email to Mazda about the FL22 coolant.

If anyone here in the west region changes there coolant and uses the FL22, just mix it 50/50 with distilled water and all will be good.
ok,

so the third time is the charm?? that was not aimed at you or anybody..

my hard ?s were asked by pm..

beers
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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i hope this is the last engine for you dude, what a debacle!
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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Forgot to say something

DAMNG, Mazda's coolant is a 45/55 mixture ? Wow .... What is Mazda thinking ? 50/50 is already not that great.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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Well I was driving home last night , and I'm doing my usual thing driving down the freeway. Traffic is kinda heavy. Suddenly there is a slow down in the cars. It seems there is an accident ahead. So I putter along for about a 1/2 mile. Suddenly I feel the A/C go off. I think to my self, things I can't post on here.
Well I look over to the temp gauge and it's over the half way mark, and climbing.
It proceeded to go to about a mark above the edge of the horizontal line on the temp ICON in the gauge. I opened the hood when I got home and saw coolant all over my engine covers.
Will this ever end! So back to the dealer I go today.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Not again!!! Are you a jinx?
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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Wow Easy.

All I can say without coming up with bad words.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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Son of a ******* bitch. (There, I said it for you.)
This is ridiculous.
Does Karl have it right now?
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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Son of a ******* bitch. (There, I said it for you.)
This is ridiculous.
Does Karl have it right now?

Karl is pulling his hair out.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Karl is pulling his hair out.
Don't do that to him! I need him to finish the Miata before the rental allowance ends!
Plus, I need him sane so that he can help me with the body/paint on his '7.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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I think he'll be alirght. Just lose a few brain cells. Nothing serious.
I told Karl I would help you with the car (his). Give me a call.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Well I was driving home last night , and I'm doing my usual thing driving down the freeway. Traffic is kinda heavy. Suddenly there is a slow down in the cars. It seems there is an accident ahead. So I putter along for about a 1/2 mile. Suddenly I feel the A/C go off. I think to my self, things I can't post on here.
Well I look over to the temp gauge and it's over the half way mark, and climbing.
It proceeded to go to about a mark above the edge of the horizontal line on the temp ICON in the gauge. I opened the hood when I got home and saw coolant all over my engine covers.
Will this ever end! So back to the dealer I go today.
hmm this may be an issue with replacement engines, i got mine done last week but before they gave it to me they noticed they tore the radiator hose so they had to replace that before they gave it back to me, sounds like your people weren't as diligent that ******* sux.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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They might have simply overfilled the capacity, there's a tube on the cooling system that spews out excessive coolant when it's too full and you get the system running very hot. Typically it's aimed down into the undertray but sometimes it goes everywhere.

Just read all 10 pages of your story though, I think I'd rather deal with crappy British electronic gremlins then this when I sell the RX-8 and get into an Elise, but best of luck to you
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaspeedFeras
hmm this may be an issue with replacement engines, i got mine done last week but before they gave it to me they noticed they tore the radiator hose so they had to replace that before they gave it back to me, sounds like your people weren't as diligent that ******* sux.
There is nothing wrong with the service dept at Berge Mazda. They are the local QC dealership. Which means that when all the other dealers in the area can't fix something they send them to Berge Mazda. And my Personal Technician. Karl.

Now I'm about tired of the technician bashing that's plagued this thread from time to time.
Please refrain from thinking/stating the Technicians are the culprits behind all this.
I haven't seen anybody on here fix it yet.

So please be open minded and keep the derogatory remarks to your self.

Thank you.

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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
They might have simply overfilled the capacity, there's a tube on the cooling system that spews out excessive coolant when it's too full and you get the system running very hot. Typically it's aimed down into the undertray but sometimes it goes everywhere.

Just read all 10 pages of your story though, I think I'd rather deal with crappy British electronic gremlins then this when I sell the RX-8 and get into an Elise, but best of luck to you
I checked the level before I picked the car up. And the next day.
It was about 1/2" over the full line. Checked it when I got home and it was slightly lower, maybe about a 1/4". Yesterday when this happened it was completely full, just a little bubble in the top. And anti freeze all over.




And yes the engine compartment was clean. I cleaned it a few day's earlier.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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My concern is that if Karl and Mazda cannot fix your car, what is the prospect on me keeping my 8 alive 10 years?

I hope the issue is something simple, and we all learn something here.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 02:55 AM
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Karl, is our own personal gem. How how handles other customers is his own business.
What is important is that he cares about us.
Much of the problem with many of the service techs in most places (besides their complete ineptitude) is that they have no reason to care.
Karl is, like anyone else who is invested in what they do, always learning. I don't think he would ever lead you to believe that he has seen it all or done it all.
But he will not do something he doesn't understand and I am damn sure that he wants to understand it all, so we are in good hands.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 03:33 AM
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IF this is an 06 model as stated earlier (I think) then shouldn't this be in lemon law territory about now? What is being said by the dealership?
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
IF this is an 06 model as stated earlier (I think) then shouldn't this be in lemon law territory about now? What is being said by the dealership?
The car in question is a 2005 model.
Yes it's in "Lemon Law" territory.
Dealer has nothing to do with it. Dealer is an agent.
Thats all I can say.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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Well we could paint it yellow with large lemon lettering on it and take it to SSX. Some how I don't think it would be visible long. They'd have it locked up over at R&D very quickly.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
The car in question is a 2005 model.
Yes it's in "Lemon Law" territory.
Dealer has nothing to do with it. Dealer is an agent.
Thats all I can say.
just read the thread figured id put in my .02 because ive been in the industry for a few years and grew up in it..

i almost have never seen a lemon law case win against mazda, i had a good friend who bought an 8, that mazda sent our rep from the region up to test drive it for the weekend. they took the case to court and mazdas lawyer said it was a mere case of someone not being able to afford the car he bought.

On a second note about motors failing after being replaced, i know this isnt a mazda story but its relevant to what you are telling me. We have the 8th largest GMC store in the country and ive seen new trucks/suv's need motors at very low miles. It sucks for the customer but stuff happens, you cant get mad at the dealer they dont make the motors they just install them. My grandmother bought a new 2007 yukon denali w/ the 6.2 liter, that bent a valve and needed to be replaced with 15 miles on it.

i guess the good part about having a motor failure when you have low miles on your car is most of the time the company you bought the car from wants the entire motor back so they can take it to engineering and have them look at it.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by VarneyMazda
i almost have never seen a lemon law case win against mazda,
Well, I hope you like surprises. I know I do.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
I checked the level before I picked the car up. And the next day.
It was about 1/2" over the full line. Checked it when I got home and it was slightly lower, maybe about a 1/4". Yesterday when this happened it was completely full, just a little bubble in the top. And anti freeze all over.




And yes the engine compartment was clean. I cleaned it a few day's earlier.
Well, its common to have coolant spill all over your engine. it happens.

but overheating like yours ....... I dont know man.

Have you been using the evil Synthetic Oil ?
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