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Old 08-04-2007, 02:37 AM
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Wow, it's been a while since I've been on here.

First of all, I'm so sorry to hear about all your problems Erik.

Ok...

So not to threadjack but....

Just took my car in about 2 weeks ago for being low on power. After some runaround and them saying it was bad spark plugs and a bad coil....

Front rotor 99.4, 99.6, 104

Rear rotor 108, 107, 111

They said that 98 psi was their "time for a new motor" spec. So the front rotor will be there in a few thousand mile I'm guessing.

I'm really scared about getting a "new" motor after reading this thread.

What should I do? Will I really get a new motor?

I got my car at Berge, and get it serviced there. Who should I talk to?

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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
I was gonna tell you to get a pic of the rotor through the exhaust port...but then I remembered, renesis.
I'll try to remember to bring my scope over there on Monday before Karl starts to strap it up. I wanted to get a better look at the last motor, anyway.
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Originally Posted by G-Rat
Wow, it's been a while since I've been on here.

First of all, I'm so sorry to hear about all your problems Erik.

Ok...

So not to threadjack but....

Just took my car in about 2 weeks ago for being low on power. After some runaround and them saying it was bad spark plugs and a bad coil....

Front rotor 99.4, 99.6, 104

Rear rotor 108, 107, 111

They said that 98 psi was their "time for a new motor" spec. So the front rotor will be there in a few thousand mile I'm guessing.

I'm really scared about getting a "new" motor after reading this thread.

What should I do? Will I really get a new motor?

I got my car at Berge, and get it serviced there. Who should I talk to?


Relax G-Rat I think I've taken all the bad luck from this side of the world.
Hey,, Just go and ask for Vince, (at Berge) he's my service writer. Tell him what the problem is and tell him you want Karl to work on it.
Just tell Vince my name and say I told him to help you, then watch him run.

As far as the engine goes you will be getting a new one from Mazda.
(This has not been publicly stated by Mazda to my knowledge, but I have heard it from some reliable sources.)
As will anybody else who needs a new engine.
I am understanding that Williams Technologies is not doing anymore Rotary Re-manufactured Engines. I also understand that Mazda will be sending NEW ENGINES out to customers whose engines fail testing.
Old 08-04-2007, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Relax G-Rat I think I've taken all the bad luck from this side of the world.
Hey,, Just go and ask for Vince, (at Berge) he's my service writer. Tell him what the problem is and tell him you want Karl to work on it.
Just tell Vince my name and say I told him to help you, then watch him run.

As far as the engine goes you will be getting a new one from Mazda.
(This has not been publicly stated by Mazda to my knowledge, but I have heard it from some reliable sources.)
As will anybody else who needs a new engine.
I am understanding that Williams Technologies is not doing anymore Rotary Re-manufactured Engines. I also understand that Mazda will be sending NEW ENGINES out to customers whose engines fail testing.
Thanks Erik...

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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
As far as the engine goes you will be getting a new one from Mazda.
(This has not been publicly stated by Mazda to my knowledge, but I have heard it from some reliable sources.)
As will anybody else who needs a new engine.
I am understanding that Williams Technologies is not doing anymore Rotary Re-manufactured Engines. I also understand that Mazda will be sending NEW ENGINES out to customers whose engines fail testing.
Since you seem to have some "inside knowledge" of recent changes, do you know how the reman structure/supply for older rotaries will be impacted by this change (if true)?
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
Since you seem to have some "inside knowledge" of recent changes, do you know how the reman structure/supply for older rotaries will be impacted by this change (if true)?
What do you mean "older rotaries"?
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
What do you mean "older rotaries"?
I think he means non-renesis rotaries...

Just a guess.
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Yes, as in the FC and FD guys that call up wanting a reman...wonder what they will be getting, if what you say is true. Surely mazda is going to move the reman program to a different subcontractor, instead of just cutting them out altogether as you suggest.
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As of right now, there is just a stop-work in place for WT on Renesis motors.
I don't know about any of the legacy motors.
However, as far as I know, WT is still supplying the other current motors in Mazda's line up.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
As of right now, there is just a stop-work in place for WT on Renesis motors.
I don't know about any of the legacy motors.
However, as far as I know, WT is still supplying the other current motors in Mazda's line up.
As far as I know right now Jeff is correct.

G-rat- Just like Erick said call Vince at Berge mazda and Ask for me (karl) to work on your car. When you come to bring your car in tell vince to let me know so I can talk with you about the issues with your car.

Rotaryresurrection-These new motors that Mazda is sending out are part of the reman program which is why they have the blue reman tag on them. Mazda does not paint anything on the new motors, and the front cover/water pump are brand new which is why they are really shiny.
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...but if the bare aluminum front cover is "new, that is why it is really shiny" and the bare aluminum rotorhousings, also supposedly new, are dull, then...

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I know is the Engine is NEW. I will take my camera with me today and try to take some real pics. But chances are he will have it installed today. So the pics I would like to get will not be available due to accessories installed on the engine.
Perhaps MM will have a chance to look it over and comment further today.
As far as the front cover and the housings they are two different parts, why should they have the same finish?
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That flywheel looks really different than the stock one from my 8. Did it come from the factory like that or is it your own aftermarket flywheel?
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Its an auto transmission flex plate, not a flywheel.
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
That flywheel looks really different than the stock one from my 8. Did it come from the factory like that or is it your own aftermarket flywheel?
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So I just picked the car up. Drove 45 miles home. So far so good. J/K
I will start premixing tonight when I fill it up.
Taking it back tomorrow for an alignment, and the install of the Mazdaspeed rear end.
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Come on Easy, just install the turbo...You know you want to.
You have a "new" motor to start with. :-)
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Its an auto transmission flex plate, not a flywheel.
Ah thanks. I've never had much experience with autos. Something about them sucking I guess. j/k

Seriously though it does look like something out of a '78 Ford Crown Vic and looks really out of place on that shiny new engine. You learn something new every day.

Hope this one is working out for you Easy!
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Originally Posted by 09Factor
Come on Easy, just install the turbo...You know you want to.
You have a "new" motor to start with. :-)

About you buying it for me there Dave,,,,
You have my permission.
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there is one for sale in the parts for 1650.
And don't buy the int-X. go with the emu.

So knock yourself out.
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Good God man. Tell Mazda to get that new engine to you ASAP!
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Originally Posted by abbid
Hell, that **** Michelle wont call me!
What did the engine look like? I told you what to look for last night.
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Surprise surprise.
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I'd be pissed Abbid. Start cracking heads!
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Haha you made that sound dirty.

Oh yeah Abbid; you don't need to harrass the Russian anymore. I'm not getting his kit. Looking at the MazSport type-3 instead. But thank for the help


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