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Old 08-01-2007, 04:59 PM
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Well, The WT motors are failing pretty consistently, so the bottom line has to be addressed.
All of the Japan motors come through Alabama. They stopped using San Diego for some reason.
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I'm just happy not to be getting another one of those "PEICES OF ****" from that lame remanufacturing plant!

<----------- I want them to send this one!


THANK YOU MAZDA!!!!
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Alabama is one of Mazdas distribution hubs. Generally everything comming overseas will land here and shipped out to wherever dealers there going to. It is otherwise known as "Olive branch" as some Mazda employees will say.
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Originally Posted by abbid
I just spoke to the DCSM.. she told me that mazda no longer goes through WT because of quality concerns. She told me my NEW motor would be coming directly from japan. When i reconfirmed i dropped the name 'alabama' and she replied with 'no, a new engine direct from japan'. Sounds like they MAY be giving us new blocks..
The DCSM you spoke with is new to this job and just recently took over our region of dealers, if you had mentioned Olive Branch she might have understood you. Ill call my friend at Mazda and verify this info about WT. They need to do something fricken quick about these fricken remans!
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The need to send them to us for inspection! Long-term!
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I want a souvenir !!!!!
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Originally Posted by dmc27
lots of open desert, just make sure you dig deep.

I have this at my disposal, will it do?


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I think Karl needs to leave #2 and #3 sitting out back near the roll-up door...
I won't tell. We can use that Bobcat...
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No we'll use this one reach right over the wall,,,


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Don't need to reach over the wall - we can drive right onto the lot.
Its getting them out of the building that is going to be the trick.
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Trenchcoats. It is raining, it will look natural.

Or a baby buggy.... yeah, that will do nicely.

We still need to do some dumpster diving on WT before it gets cleaned out!

All I hear on the 7 forums is how easy it is to rebuild a rotary compared to a piston engine, what can these folks be doing?

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Old 08-01-2007, 09:32 PM
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The folks at WT are not particularly facile or well trained.
Because they build these things by rote, some of the fairly subtle details (like which side of the side seal goes up and, yes, there is a difference between an "A" side seal and an "E" side seal even though they look the same) are completely ignored.
The ease by which a rotary can be built over a piston motor comes from the fact that there aren't too many special tools or machining techniques needed.
Setting up a cylinder head, for example, requires a machine shop and a bunch of special tools.
A rotary motor can be assembled almost entirely by hand and the various components can be selected and clearanced with only a micrometer.
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I find it most interesting, from the business standpoint, that:
1. it has been stated here that Mazda will STOP using WT and
2. if it is so damn easy to reassemble a RENESIS, then WHY exactly is WT backed up and...
3. are they this backed up simply BECAUSE it's summer again and these 04 and 05 RENESIS motors are failing in droves around the country?

I'm not one to subscribe to conspiracy theories but, c'mon...
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Has anyone had an 06 motor fail?
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Are you sure they even replaced your motor?
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my god what a nightmare.

I have patience, but after 4 engines i would make mazda buy the car back from me, and buy me a new car.
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Originally Posted by PhotoMunkey
I find it most interesting, from the business standpoint, that:
1. it has been stated here that Mazda will STOP using WT and
2. if it is so damn easy to reassemble a RENESIS, then WHY exactly is WT backed up and...
3. are they this backed up simply BECAUSE it's summer again and these 04 and 05 RENESIS motors are failing in droves around the country?

I'm not one to subscribe to conspiracy theories but, c'mon...
Because they're being reassembled by rotards with no thumbs. Doesn't really matter how easy they are to reassemble if it's done wrong more often than not, leading to a revolving door of wankels.
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So the "Brand New Engine" has arrived today.
Here are some crappy phone pic's,,,,







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That darn thing is missing two intake ports!
Nice lightened "flywheel", though.
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And it has tranny cooler lines.

WTF?
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front cover/waterpump housing is painted, and has a reman tag on it. Curious...that normally happens on remans. Not saying this isn't new...but why would they paint a "new" front cover?
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Why aren't the cast iron segments painted? Somebody at Mazda really in love with rust patinas?
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Its not a reman tag, its a new cert. I guess they use the same type of label. The front cover is not painted, its just really shiny. Compare to the waterpump body. Cell phone pics FTL.

They don't paint the irons on new motors - go pop the hood on a new RX-8.
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yeah, I guess it could be just the pic...but the front cover looks awfully bright, while the rotorhousings (same material) look awfully dull, which is common with remans.

Front covers do not get painted on new engines...at least, not on the factory installed ones.

I was gonna tell you to get a pic of the rotor through the exhaust port...but then I remembered, renesis.

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good to hear you'll be on the road soon, Erick! Glad Mazda manned up and sent you a new engine. I'd make them send in a car payment for you, too.


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