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Old 11-21-2011, 02:39 PM
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I can't belive that a heater control unit is bad because of bad solder ! now I gotta try the diy quick fix which requires pulling the whole consle and radio unit to spot solder 3 points, if that doesn't work its 500 $ for the part and still have to pull the whole unit out myself or pay a dealership almost 1000k to repair ac/heating.
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I don't actually. 91,000 miles and other than a cat failure from missing a coil replacement, a rear shock failure from New England roads, and a shattered clutch from old age at 89,600, my 8 has been flawless.

Thanks anyway.
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Originally Posted by pro29745
you seem well informed ,I was just looking online under mazda and saw the concept car. Anyway the rx8 is fun as long as you can keep it together too many manufacture flaws, nor after market updates for speed like the old rx7 twin turbo. I see Ford is coming out with new Falcon 280 Boss engine next,if you want power.
Like has been said until the cows came home and died.......he is an ogre.
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The positive thing I see in rx8 besides being fun to drive is that they made all the componets fairly easy to work on ,(ie, changing coils,plugs,starter,suspension parts ect. ) as long as you have proper tools its easier than most newer cars to work on !!!!!!!
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Mine is 2005 ,57,000 miles ,no turbo and no problems till the last couple months exept for the one common flood issue before,i learned then to let it warm up and sit for a moment before shutting down to burn excess feul .
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would you recomend coil change and plug wire change with a 60,000 mile tune up ?? still got stock coils and wires for 7 years now
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still stock starter too !! having to turn it over more now to fire up than before . Just changed my plugs but that didn't help
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If that was directed to me (I can't tell), no, I don't have original factory coils and wires. Just like I don't have original factory gasoline, oil, windshield washer fluid, brake fluid, coolant, front brake pads, front brake rotors, transmission fluid, diff fluid, air filter, oil filter, or any other maintenance item.

Coils, wires, and plugs need to be changed every 30,000 on average. Sometimes they can last as long as 50,000, but that is exceedingly rare. Also exceedingly rare is coils only lasting 5,000 miles. Both extremes can happen, but both are rare. You are likely somewhere in between. If you are still on the originals at 60,000, no wonder you have all sorts of issues.
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LOL , I hear ya !! lucky on that one I guess , I make sure to change oil at 3k ,but other than that I only changed plugs like 4 times sinse 2006, still using 5-20 castrol oil.
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There is your problem.


Replace your coils and wires. They are shot. You should be replacing them for the 2nd time, not the 1st time.
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and battery is like 3-4 years old also
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And the best after market coil and wires you reccomend ?? There is a site 5xracing that has 8.5 or 10 wires and coils i think the brand name starts with an M can't remember the whole name. I may as well buy the good ones to replace old parts maybe 250- 350 for all plugs,coils,and wires
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I need to spend a little bit of $$ just for basics ,I guess ha ?? what about 6 speed tranny ??
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There is only 1 option other than OEM for coils, and that is the BHR kit, which runs you $500 for coils and included wires (blackhaloracing.com).

The best plugs are OEM plugs.

There is no real benefit to upgrading wires unless you just want to go longer between wire replacements, or have the BHR kit that is sending a stronger spark.

Contact Mazmart (username here, Mazmart.com) to order everything for reasonable prices.
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Originally Posted by pro29745
And the best after market coil and wires you reccomend ?? There is a site 5xracing that has 8.5 or 10 wires and coils i think the brand name starts with an M can't remember the whole name. I may as well buy the good ones to replace old parts maybe 250- 350 for all plugs,coils,and wires
wow, total thread jacking, but whatever, my issue is fixed anyhoo. Pay attention to the thread as I was asking about wires earlier. Basically everyone says go with whatever, but you usually get what you pay for. I personally don't think the thicker wires are any better. I'm going with NGK wires. I heard BHR had some after market coils but I didn't see them listed on their site.
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I assume that you have a 4-port auto with a 4 speed transmission. Swapping to a 6 speed transmission is more expensive than the trade in value lost if you just traded in your 8 for a 6 speed (auto or manual). The cost of the transmission + the ECU + wiring is more cost and effort than you would expect.
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Magnecore does that ring a bell in parts ???
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Originally Posted by JayP
I heard BHR had some after market coils but I didn't see them listed on their site.
You searching wasn't all that good then

http://blackhaloracing.com/?page_id=...&product_id=19

It's a full kit, because the coils they use aren't plug and play. They don't fit the mount, they don't fit the space (well, they do, barely), and they don't fit the connectors. BHR puts everything into a plug and play kit.
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I have 6 speed sport package
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Originally Posted by pro29745
Magnecore does that ring a bell in parts ???
Yes. It is a name.


Originally Posted by pro29745
I have 6 speed sport package
You can quote, and multi-quote, so people know who in the world you are referring to when you respond.

If you are looking for a replacement transmission, ring up Mazmart or start hunting junkyards.
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manual tran . Sorry
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And you can edit prior posts.


Common forum etiquette please.
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so BHR is a longer lasting ,hotter fireing ignition and wires also??

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Originally Posted by RIWWP
You searching wasn't all that good then

http://blackhaloracing.com/?page_id=...&product_id=19

It's a full kit, because the coils they use aren't plug and play. They don't fit the mount, they don't fit the space (well, they do, barely), and they don't fit the connectors. BHR puts everything into a plug and play kit.
My searching was great, I thought they had the individual coils listed, I saw the whole kit, and want one

yes pro, the BHR kit is a nice upgrade to the OEM ignition.
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Originally Posted by pro29745
so BHR is a longer lasting ,hotter fireing ignition ??
I'm about done hand holding you.


Notice none of the other people ragging on you and the OP are hanging around? Very few people on this forum have the patience for this. I'm one of those few, and mine is wearing mighty thin.


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