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Old 04-21-2004, 10:54 PM
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flash done. things just seem crisper and fine tuned. haven't realized a big gain but overall it is a upgrade to a better running vehicle.
Old 04-21-2004, 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by kidcas
excuse my ignorance but what is the TSB? and where can i print it out at?
Technical Service Bulletin.

there is a stickied thread at the top of this section which deals specifically with all of these .
Old 04-21-2004, 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by RodsterinFL
hmm okay where is the ECU? I am looking under the hood right now and to the left of the battery. I have a plastic covered area and no numbers. I am trying to identify what flash I have. ANy help out there?
If you got reflashed, you should have a sticker under the hood (on the hood)
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i looked through my entire engine bay with no lock... no sticker.. jsut the port sticker
Old 04-22-2004, 12:52 AM
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got my updated today from the l flash. I went from h all the way down. the ride is so much smoother. i think the power is more evenly distributed. while the older version felt more like it was in chunks this one is through the whole gear.
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It cannot find anything MY car was made in 06/03

IT ruse great not sure i want to mess it up.. Also what about the oil pan shuild i make them fix that or wait till i get a light.
Old 04-22-2004, 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by RodsterinFL
hmm okay where is the ECU? I am looking under the hood right now and to the left of the battery. I have a plastic covered area and no numbers. I am trying to identify what flash I have. ANy help out there?
You have to remove that cover to the left of the battery. It will have a sticker under there. It will show whish one you originally have.
Old 04-22-2004, 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by JERCS
i looked through my entire engine bay with no lock... no sticker.. jsut the port sticker
try the drivers side door panel. thats where they put mine.
Old 04-22-2004, 02:20 PM
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I got no sticker on the door or under the hood
maybe I will check by taking the ecu cover off when I don't feel lazy
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nothing on the door.. looking again under the hood..

But ? Do i really want the m flash ?
Old 04-22-2004, 02:43 PM
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To chime in here. I just received the M flash update, not sure what my previous flash was (build date 1/04), and I am very happy. It has much smoother power delivery, shifting and idling. My MPG was averaging 12.5 to 16.5 (heavy footed). I record every fill up and will report new MPG after flash.

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Old 04-22-2004, 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by thew
nothing on the door.. looking again under the hood..

But ? Do i really want the m flash ?

Some Dealers don't put a sticker on the car..

Maybe the invoice will tell.
Old 04-22-2004, 03:49 PM
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I looks like you can't get the flash unless you need some kind of service, as well. I'm not scheduled for an oil change for another few thousand miles, but I'd like to get the flash sooner rather than later. Is the only way to get it to make up a story? They won't flash the car if you bring it in only for that? That's not right... maybe if I throw a tantrum they'll give me the flash
Old 04-22-2004, 04:06 PM
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Anyone has access to dyno? Has it been posted...can't locate it anywhere on the forum. If not, please post the result on M flash!

Thank you!
Old 04-22-2004, 04:16 PM
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You can view my Minority post in the Aftermark area. I believe some of the first 8's will lose power.
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Well, I got the M Flash on my AT last Friday, started a new tank of 89 octane on Sunday and in mixed city/hiway using my AC sometimes I just got 17.7 mpg. Before the flash I was lucky to get 16.0 mpg in similar driving. And the acceleration is definitely smoother in full auto mode. The service tech said that it should even improve more over time. Very interesting. Happy camper here!

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Thumbs up

Got the M flash on Tuesday. There is a noticable difference in the performance of the car. Seems like more low end torque .... engine revs quicker and smoother. Just filled up today.
We'll see how the mileage turns out.
Bigger grin than usual after picking it up. :D
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ok.. I tore apart the engine compartment. I found the ecu. no stickers that say anytihng about the flash version.

the door jamb sticker says nothing about it.. and the window sticker say nothing..

But i guess ill take it in however, I am concerned about the recalls and the nav updates. My 8 needs the dapener recall cause i can find no stickers saying it happened. I need the heat shield mod, the oil pan mod and the Nav upgrade. Is my dealer going to freak out when i tell him all this .. ?
Old 04-22-2004, 07:26 PM
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OK, I tried the "honest" approach - I didn't claim any CEL problems, hard starting or anything. I just said that I felt like there was hesitation in the throttle response and shifting was jerky - both of which are true. For my honesty I got lies from the Rosenthal Vienna service dept.: it already has the most current callibration, it has the "N" flash (no ****, they realy said that), the TSB does not say that it is required for all RX-8's built before 3/12/04, etc. So much for honesty!
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Originally posted by DemonRX-8
OK, I tried the "honest" approach - I didn't claim any CEL problems, hard starting or anything. I just said that I felt like there was hesitation in the throttle response and shifting was jerky - both of which are true. For my honesty I got lies from the Rosenthal Vienna service dept.: it already has the most current callibration, it has the "N" flash (no ****, they realy said that), the TSB does not say that it is required for all RX-8's built before 3/12/04, etc. So much for honesty!
Hold it right there: isn't Rosenthal a vendor on this forum? isn't there a member of this forum that works there? did you try going through him or something?

In any event: what's that cr@% about 'N' calibration? Wouldn't it be easier if they would USE their own website for reference, for Ahura's sake!
Old 04-22-2004, 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by thew
ok.. I tore apart the engine compartment. I found the ecu. no stickers that say anytihng about the flash version.

the door jamb sticker says nothing about it.. and the window sticker say nothing..

Try the material lining the inside of the roof just before the windshield, above the driver's-side visor.
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QUIT LOOKING!

My Dealer doesn't put stickers in the car. They usually put it on the invoice if the repair included a update.
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My invoice only says "LATEST ECU REFLASH"... so i figure M or L :D lol
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Re: I'll put off procrastination tomorrow.....

Originally posted by Tall Corn
Anyway, last night I noticed an inconsistant idle as I waited outside a local store while my wife was inside for a quick gift pick up. A few times idle became rough and I thought it might stall. I switched off the AC that I was running at the time and it really didn't make a difference. I tapped on the gas and it smoothed back out.

Is this the "rough idle" that many are referring to and experiencing? It appears that many of you are getting this cleared up with the new flash - from what I'm reading.......

Tall.................
This is exactly what I have happening, and this still occurs even after the "M" reflash.

When I first come to a stop light and the engine idles down, after idling smoothly for about 30 seconds or so it starts getting rough.....shaking the crap out of the gear shift and making the whole car vibrate slightly. If I gas it a little, it smooths out.....but then is rough again after 20-30 seconds. Sometimes it will get rough.....then smooth out on its own without tapping the accelerator. This all happens with the A/C compressor not running too. I could accept that idle pattern a little better if the A/C was cycling on and off, but this was with the heat on and air directed at dash vents and floor. The compressor should not be cycling.

I guess I should try new plugs..??
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Not sure if all dealerships use a standard service form, but mine actually says "FOUND UPDATE FOR PCM WITH NEW # N3H6 18881 -M" on the service work order form. I assume that the "-M" at the end means it is the 'M' flash.


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