thew

ok i have stoped looking.

expo1

Those of you that have been flashed to “L” or “M” does the work order specifically mention the reflashing? Is so what if any are the codes? Just had the oil pan replaced and thought they would flash it to “M” but the work order doesn’t mention it. I didn’t really drive it enough to notice any major change and the 20x brake pedal trick didn’t show anything.

casual

I just got the L at the beginning of the month-April. I am getting due for an oil change should I get the "M"

Whats the difference between the L and M anyhow? I've looked all over the board and cant seem to find it.

olddragger

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guys, im old and my butt is skinny--so my butt dyno can tell the differance after I got the L flash. Yes the car is smoother and maybe pulls a little better in mid-range --but-- I got that when I turned off my dsc with the old programing. To me the L = slower. The kick is gone. I also really didn't notice much of a gas milage increase. All in all I wish i had not gotten the reflash. Now once the updating flashing stabilizes and canzoomer can fine tune his product and be able to ship them out in a reasonable time frame-then I'll be set. Or maybe mazda will just provide a reflash that equals canzoomers programming. Wishful thinking. Rock on!

shebam

Got my "L" in mid-March and dealer agreed to do the M in mid-April, after the new TSB saying to update all cars to it. But when dealer went to do the M, result was readout that my ECU was already to spec. So interested whether anyone else gets this outcome. (In other words, report of earlier migration of the download from L to M than we had been led to believe.)

shebam

Difference purported to be only that M has some additional idle and cold-start protections against flooding.

goodstick

Has anyone else had negative results on the dyno besides that one that was mentoned.

thew

ok my Dealer here said. No Problamb.. I guess MAzda has told all there dealers to stop saying no. !

I will get the M flash when i take it in for paint treatment. ...

Hope i like it

thew

also it has had all the recalls to !! so its good to go .. maybe a new oil pan donw the raod.. But i kinda like the sensor to over react.

Jump120MPH

I got mine flashed to the "L" last week I went in today to have 15000 miles service done. I gave the dealer(Bob Moore) the TSB on the No start engine cranks. He said no problem. They hadnt downloaded the "M" yet. They downloaded it and hooked me up.

JimW

Ditto, The car is smoother more responsive and revs a little quicker, MPG is slightly improved as well. One thing is for sure, the heat and humidity are making this car run like a dog, but isn't that the case with all cars, especially intercooled turbo ones. hehehe!

snap-on

They should have done this 3-4 wks ago.

Amazing how different the reactions are from person to person.

You go in an (really) catch your dealer at least a month behind on updates and you post a good reply..good for you

Another guy goes to a Dealer in Va and calls the idiots for the world to see.

Just an observation.

shebam

If you mean me, I was not disbelieving the dealer, as it's my understanding that the download is via a direct connection to Mazda rather than via local storage at the dealer. Rather, my conclusion, and theirs, was that Mazda started actually using the M spec earlier than we had thought, and earlier than had been communicated to dealers. If I'd had an issue with this dealer, with whom I've had only good experience, it would have been discussed and resolved with them.

snap-on

I wasn't calling out anybody really..just making an observation in the different ways we see and address dealer issues.

It is up to the dealer to keep the WDS up to date.

30.9 hit today..if they don't have it in by Monday they are behind.

Mz can send updates every night..Dealers should look on the site at least once a week..

The system works like this.


http://forum.mazda6tech.com/viewtopic.php?t=15

Any questions feel free to PM me..this issue needs to be set straight.

PS there still is no "N" update thank goodness.

JeRKy 8 Owner

I had the rough idle carshaking problem also and I havean automatic. Whenever idling at a stoplight or parkinglot wherever it wouldjust shake everything the steering wheel the hood the transmission it got reallyannoying. The dealership I took it to thought it wasa bad catalytic converterso they replaced that. Itseemed to fix the problem for2 months orso but it has come back now. Itsnot as bad as beforeand doesnt happen as much but its still there. I wonder iftheyll ever figure out the real cause. If youchange the plugsand that fixes it let me know.

JeRKy 8 Owner

Guys youknow what I thinkI might just say fuckit and get my car flashed. Gas pricesjust really suck these days and I coulddefinitely use the increased mileage that somany of you have said youre getting. Its going tobe sad to lose that powersurge b/c if it drives smooth throughout the tachometer instead of having a surge near the end thenitll feel like every other car but I guess itll be easier to pass cars now.

Xyntax if the flash closes the gap from 1000 to 4000 RPM before it gets to 5000 since its smoother -- then wouldnt that mean the M is technically still the same as the stock in the long run? A stock Rx8 has no smooth transition and is slow from start to middle but as it gets closer to its sweet spot a surge kicks in. On theother hand from what you guys say an M flash Rx8 is smooth throughout the tach so its faster from start to middle but no longer has any sweet spot.

So wouldntyou guys say that theoretically an M flashed Rx8 would only be ahead of a stock Rx8 for the first few seconds until the stock Rx8s surge kicked in towards the end of the tachometer? To me it soundslike their track times would stillbe very similar.

shebam

Wow. Could it be, to quote Humphrey Bogart, that "I was misinformed" how the system works? That is great info, thanks. I thought I had seen a post that said that the dealer goes directly on-line to Mazda each time they do a reflash. Will PM you to sort out further.

R8N8SIS

got my L or M flash last week and install cz stg 1 , my RX8 feels like a different car now, gas milage increase from 15.8 average to 19 MPG now with 80 % of redlining the car. been keeping up with those cars that i cant ... (G35 Coupe, S2000 etc)

go get yr car flash and get cz stg 1 , u will not regret it

Xyntax

First post I;ve read from a CZ1.1 + M driver! I would like to hear more about it though. Could you please describe more?

R8N8SIS

before the the flash and cz 1.1, my 04' s2k can easily put 3 cars on the rx8. (tested by me and my brother on highway runs and from dead stop), but after installing cz 1.1 and flash to L or M, the s2k now can hardly pull away from the rx8 ,i would say 1/2 a car length from dead stop( hate the wheel hop on the 8) . power is very very smooth throughout the whole rev band. (feels like a 6 cylinder car) . accelerating from 60 to 90 seems much easier now than before. only had my car flash last week... and i already put 900 miles on it in abt a week. a really fun 900 miles.
:D

R8N8SIS

i m at sea level, sunoco 94 and KN drop in filter.

Brandon

First - FWIW- I just bought an RX-8 today :D and even though the salesperson intially thought a 6 spd w/ no options (I prefer to call it the "Lightweight" :p ) had 17" wheels, she mentioned as we warmed it up for the test drive that they will do a reflash when I bring it in for the first oil change. And she rattled off all the benefits that would come of it. So she knows more about reflashes than the available wheels. Leads me to think that there shouldn't be much problem having it done anymore, at least at this dealer.

Second. Awwwweeesome car! :D I had a 97 Prelude before and the RX-8 improves on every deficiency the Prelude had and, besides fuel economy, has no drawbacks in comparison. I am truly smitten.

Jump120MPH

Congrats and Welcome!

grifster

Funny thing. I was in my Mazda Service Department and asked the guy there about the TSBs with all the updates. He told me that "I have worked for Mazda for 20 years, I dunno!" He pulled out their "Book" and there was 1, (yes, one!) TSB in the book. I guess I will have to follow the links in here to print them all off to take in and show him. He did say that if I did find them and print them off, they would look into it for me. Nice. Maybe they can come shoot my weapon for me since I have to do their job, they can do mine.

Hou-TX-RX-8

I got the M Flash Friday I had to gring in the TSB.

Nat