Notices
Series I Trouble Shooting This is the place to learn more about or discuss any issues you're having with your RX-8

ECU/PCM "flash" Info/questions

Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:54 PM
  #126  
rx8miami's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
flash done. things just seem crisper and fine tuned. haven't realized a big gain but overall it is a upgrade to a better running vehicle.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004 | 11:08 PM
  #127  
wakeech's Avatar
mostly harmless
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,440
Likes: 0
From: Greater Vancouver Area, BC
Originally posted by kidcas
excuse my ignorance but what is the TSB? and where can i print it out at?
Technical Service Bulletin.

there is a stickied thread at the top of this section which deals specifically with all of these .
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004 | 11:42 PM
  #128  
RX8-TX's Avatar
Senior Geek
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,005
Likes: 0
From: Richardson, TX
Originally posted by RodsterinFL
hmm okay where is the ECU? I am looking under the hood right now and to the left of the battery. I have a plastic covered area and no numbers. I am trying to identify what flash I have. ANy help out there?
If you got reflashed, you should have a sticker under the hood (on the hood)
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004 | 11:55 PM
  #129  
JERCS's Avatar
Awesome Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 305
Likes: 0
From: SLC, UTAH
i looked through my entire engine bay with no lock... no sticker.. jsut the port sticker
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 12:52 AM
  #130  
IZoomZoomI's Avatar
Boost needed
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,557
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
got my updated today from the l flash. I went from h all the way down. the ride is so much smoother. i think the power is more evenly distributed. while the older version felt more like it was in chunks this one is through the whole gear.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 04:33 AM
  #131  
thew's Avatar
Thews8
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,535
Likes: 11
From: Oregon South Coast
It cannot find anything MY car was made in 06/03

IT ruse great not sure i want to mess it up.. Also what about the oil pan shuild i make them fix that or wait till i get a light.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 06:32 AM
  #132  
Jump120MPH's Avatar
Soccer Fan
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 339
Likes: 0
From: Oklahoma City
Originally posted by RodsterinFL
hmm okay where is the ECU? I am looking under the hood right now and to the left of the battery. I have a plastic covered area and no numbers. I am trying to identify what flash I have. ANy help out there?
You have to remove that cover to the left of the battery. It will have a sticker under there. It will show whish one you originally have.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 12:27 PM
  #133  
RX-GR8's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,098
Likes: 3
From: Cherry Hill, NJ
Originally posted by JERCS
i looked through my entire engine bay with no lock... no sticker.. jsut the port sticker
try the drivers side door panel. thats where they put mine.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 02:20 PM
  #134  
mikeb's Avatar
100% Italian
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 9,422
Likes: 0
From: orange,ca
I got no sticker on the door or under the hood
maybe I will check by taking the ecu cover off when I don't feel lazy
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 02:27 PM
  #135  
thew's Avatar
Thews8
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,535
Likes: 11
From: Oregon South Coast
nothing on the door.. looking again under the hood..

But ? Do i really want the m flash ?
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 02:43 PM
  #136  
dx316gol's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
To chime in here. I just received the M flash update, not sure what my previous flash was (build date 1/04), and I am very happy. It has much smoother power delivery, shifting and idling. My MPG was averaging 12.5 to 16.5 (heavy footed). I record every fill up and will report new MPG after flash.

Ben
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 03:12 PM
  #137  
snap-on's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,050
Likes: 0
Originally posted by thew
nothing on the door.. looking again under the hood..

But ? Do i really want the m flash ?

Some Dealers don't put a sticker on the car..

Maybe the invoice will tell.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 03:49 PM
  #138  
kbull's Avatar
Senior Jackass
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
From: San Diego
I looks like you can't get the flash unless you need some kind of service, as well. I'm not scheduled for an oil change for another few thousand miles, but I'd like to get the flash sooner rather than later. Is the only way to get it to make up a story? They won't flash the car if you bring it in only for that? That's not right... maybe if I throw a tantrum they'll give me the flash
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 04:06 PM
  #139  
SQ88's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
From: Toronto
Anyone has access to dyno? Has it been posted...can't locate it anywhere on the forum. If not, please post the result on M flash!

Thank you!
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 04:16 PM
  #140  
JERCS's Avatar
Awesome Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 305
Likes: 0
From: SLC, UTAH
You can view my Minority post in the Aftermark area. I believe some of the first 8's will lose power.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 04:27 PM
  #141  
Positron's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 170
Likes: 0
From: Arlington, Virginia, USA
Well, I got the M Flash on my AT last Friday, started a new tank of 89 octane on Sunday and in mixed city/hiway using my AC sometimes I just got 17.7 mpg. Before the flash I was lucky to get 16.0 mpg in similar driving. And the acceleration is definitely smoother in full auto mode. The service tech said that it should even improve more over time. Very interesting. Happy camper here!

mm
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 05:44 PM
  #142  
RenoIV's Avatar
Rotary powered since 1988
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 385
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
Thumbs up

Got the M flash on Tuesday. There is a noticable difference in the performance of the car. Seems like more low end torque .... engine revs quicker and smoother. Just filled up today.
We'll see how the mileage turns out.
Bigger grin than usual after picking it up. :D
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 07:18 PM
  #143  
thew's Avatar
Thews8
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,535
Likes: 11
From: Oregon South Coast
ok.. I tore apart the engine compartment. I found the ecu. no stickers that say anytihng about the flash version.

the door jamb sticker says nothing about it.. and the window sticker say nothing..

But i guess ill take it in however, I am concerned about the recalls and the nav updates. My 8 needs the dapener recall cause i can find no stickers saying it happened. I need the heat shield mod, the oil pan mod and the Nav upgrade. Is my dealer going to freak out when i tell him all this .. ?
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 07:26 PM
  #144  
DemonRX-8's Avatar
I got nothing good to say
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 450
Likes: 0
From: Tysons Corner, VA
OK, I tried the "honest" approach - I didn't claim any CEL problems, hard starting or anything. I just said that I felt like there was hesitation in the throttle response and shifting was jerky - both of which are true. For my honesty I got lies from the Rosenthal Vienna service dept.: it already has the most current callibration, it has the "N" flash (no ****, they realy said that), the TSB does not say that it is required for all RX-8's built before 3/12/04, etc. So much for honesty!
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 08:48 PM
  #145  
RX8-TX's Avatar
Senior Geek
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,005
Likes: 0
From: Richardson, TX
Originally posted by DemonRX-8
OK, I tried the "honest" approach - I didn't claim any CEL problems, hard starting or anything. I just said that I felt like there was hesitation in the throttle response and shifting was jerky - both of which are true. For my honesty I got lies from the Rosenthal Vienna service dept.: it already has the most current callibration, it has the "N" flash (no ****, they realy said that), the TSB does not say that it is required for all RX-8's built before 3/12/04, etc. So much for honesty!
Hold it right there: isn't Rosenthal a vendor on this forum? isn't there a member of this forum that works there? did you try going through him or something?

In any event: what's that cr@% about 'N' calibration? Wouldn't it be easier if they would USE their own website for reference, for Ahura's sake!
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 09:23 PM
  #146  
shebam's Avatar
Bebop driver
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 280
Likes: 0
From: Alexandria, VA
Originally posted by thew
ok.. I tore apart the engine compartment. I found the ecu. no stickers that say anytihng about the flash version.

the door jamb sticker says nothing about it.. and the window sticker say nothing..

Try the material lining the inside of the roof just before the windshield, above the driver's-side visor.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 10:04 PM
  #147  
snap-on's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,050
Likes: 0
QUIT LOOKING!

My Dealer doesn't put stickers in the car. They usually put it on the invoice if the repair included a update.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 11:49 PM
  #148  
JERCS's Avatar
Awesome Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 305
Likes: 0
From: SLC, UTAH
My invoice only says "LATEST ECU REFLASH"... so i figure M or L :D lol
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2004 | 12:42 AM
  #149  
91vert's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 254
Likes: 0
From: St. Charles MO
Re: I'll put off procrastination tomorrow.....

Originally posted by Tall Corn
Anyway, last night I noticed an inconsistant idle as I waited outside a local store while my wife was inside for a quick gift pick up. A few times idle became rough and I thought it might stall. I switched off the AC that I was running at the time and it really didn't make a difference. I tapped on the gas and it smoothed back out.

Is this the "rough idle" that many are referring to and experiencing? It appears that many of you are getting this cleared up with the new flash - from what I'm reading.......

Tall.................
This is exactly what I have happening, and this still occurs even after the "M" reflash.

When I first come to a stop light and the engine idles down, after idling smoothly for about 30 seconds or so it starts getting rough.....shaking the crap out of the gear shift and making the whole car vibrate slightly. If I gas it a little, it smooths out.....but then is rough again after 20-30 seconds. Sometimes it will get rough.....then smooth out on its own without tapping the accelerator. This all happens with the A/C compressor not running too. I could accept that idle pattern a little better if the A/C was cycling on and off, but this was with the heat on and air directed at dash vents and floor. The compressor should not be cycling.

I guess I should try new plugs..??
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2004 | 01:04 AM
  #150  
91vert's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 254
Likes: 0
From: St. Charles MO
Not sure if all dealerships use a standard service form, but mine actually says "FOUND UPDATE FOR PCM WITH NEW # N3H6 18881 -M" on the service work order form. I assume that the "-M" at the end means it is the 'M' flash.
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 5.00 average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:24 PM.