Gord96BRG

Often (usually), those paint protectant warranties require that you bring the car in annually for a re-application. Sometimes (often), they get to charge you for the re-application. If you miss a re-application, they have their loophole to deny a warranty claim for the )lack of) paint protection.

Does yours require it to be inspected and re-applied annually? Cost?

Regards,
Gordon

went_postal

Nope.... No annual re-application or cost. Supposedly it is another clear coat (or something like it.) To be honest, they can spray spring water on it for all I car... As long as it looks like it did when I brought it in and they honor the warranty.

zmzmrx8

Can some one e-mail me a copy of the service bulletin for the "m" reflash as I cannot get the link to work.
Thanks In advance.
Todd

tfchip1in@hotmail.com

gettingan8

I got mine done today and the car seems alot more responsive. It was a little work to get it done. I tried Monday when I got my car serviced but the service rep said not unless I have a problem. So today I went in with page one of service bulletin 01-011/04 dated 4/12/04 and I was in and out in 30 minutes.

DAC17

Pretty sad that we have to bring in the TSB to get them to do what should be their responsibility (based on reading the TSB)!

snap-on

I agree..

DemonRX-8

Hooray! When people bitched about me bitching about my gas mileage, etc., I said that Mazda will only do something about it if they perceive that there is something to be done. If people said nothing and sat back content with their beautiful car with crappy gas mileage, would Mazda have done anything? Now before people get their britches in a bunch, I know Mazda will claim that this reflash is not related to gas mileage, lack of power, yada, yada, yada. But we know different, now don't we? I don't care if they say it's for daylight savings time, as long as it helps get me the performance that I bought.

Doctorr

I got the 'L' flash a couple of days ago, haven't even run a tank thru yet, but I can really agree with Mr. Demon, I don't care about the excuses, as long as it gets the job done.

"For daylight saving time".......that's classic!
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Frogger

Sounds good....

So does this mean that if I get an RX8 the flooding issue is history?

sferrett

You should still follow the short trip procedure - ie: don't shut the engine off cold.

D MENAC 7

Gee, I got the L flash today and I'm already behind...

rx8miami

Just called my stealer and and guess what? The freakin service guy says he had never heard of the M reflash. To make it worse he says there is no reflash that he is aware of. According to him the only pending recall item his stealership has dealt with is the airbag recall which I haven't done yet. Have any of you?

Gord96BRG

He's being sneaky/stupid - the "M" flash is NOT A RECALL, so of course it isn't a pending recall item for your car! It's a TSB - look up the TSB # on the Rosenthal (Finishlineperformance) web site, and give him the TSB #, and quote where it states that the M flash should be applied to every car, no justification needed.

Regards,
Gordon

rx8miami

Thanks Gord.

cgrx

I just called my dealership about it and they said that another customer had come in to, but he was unaware of it. I have an appointment on Wed. to get it done. I'll post comments. He stated they only flash if you have a check engine light. Then I read him the part about all vehicle need at least the "M" flash....

went_postal

My dealer gave me the runaround at first as well... It was hard for him to argue when I slapped the 12 page TSB on his desk and showed him the portion that I had highlighted.

My car went into service for a Squeaky Air Vent. =) That is how I got it flashed.

When I picked it up another guy was telling me that their biggest problem is that the owners seem to know more about the 8 than they do.

I sympathise that they have a lot to deal with but you know what... for the cost of the car they could at least put a little effort into it. It is not like we are trying to steal something from them.

I have them M and I am not sure if I am happy or not. The more miles that get on it it seems to be better. At first the car felt a bit slower than it had with the previous code. Mileage has definately gone up. Went for 17 to 20mpg. That could be from me getting used to the car though...

Time will tell.

DjGO

hey gord i cant find the tsb# can u please help me.

Genom

It's currently the second sticky post in this area and has a description in the first post and a link to the pdf in the second.

elite

went_postal


Got my flash today.....dealer was like there are 8 total updates, he didnt know the letter M or L, just said the hesitation is a known problem and I did get the check engine like several times in the higher Rs on the express way.

Now, after leaving I tore outta there....and here is what i noticed......seeeeeemingly slower! I used to feel power till say 7400-7500....then a nice jolt/nudge. Now, I do notice its alot more fluid through the entire rev......do you think this is my imagination? I cant really tell...never dynoed or tracked it.....just a but dyno analysis. as for gas, only drove another 10 miles so I have no clue....but he said the flash will have the effect of smoothness and better gas milage of a car with 5k....which is how long it takes to get to optimial breakin in the sense of gas etc.

Should I complain ...i do still feel a roughness around 8k but not nearly as bad.....car only has 800 miles....maybe I need to simmer down till like 2000 miles and see what happens!

DoobyWho

gah - i just got the L reflash as well. I don't know if i want the M reflash if it makes a noticeable diff. and feels slower!

zoom44

my dealer just tried to give me the run around to. i was standing in front of him showing him the tsb. he says" well we only flash the car if it need it. we'll hook it up to diagnostics and see if we find any codes or any temp timing or other problems. we dont like to do flashes if it isn't necessary." so i read the print out loud to him again and point at it so he can follow- all vehicles even if it come in for a unrelated complaint or regular service. i went there to get a engine cover grommet- which really did go missing on sunday when i was adding oil. luckily i had that tsb with me also because he didn't seem to know about it. other wise i would have just waited another 2k miles till my next service. they have to order them(grommets) and he went over and printed out the whole 12 page hard start TSB and said he would make sure the tech had it when i came in and they would "take care of it". i'm suspicious since he didn't say "yes we will flash it to the most current flash"

snap-on

Find out what level the WDS is updated to.

If they aren't at 30.6 or higher they won't be able to install the "M"

Maybe some off the confusion here is Dealers don't use the same "verbage" as the forum. Some Dealers use the update level of the WDS as the latest "reflash".

Some even have to read forums just to know what in the world you people are talking about.


Either way they at least should have the latest service bulletins since they come in e-mail format now.

Sorry about your troubles.

Mark

zoom44

i had the first page of the tsb in my hand and he went a printed out the whole tsb and was still wavering. what is "WDS" and what does "30.6" mean and why would they not be able to update the pcm because of it. thanks ahead for the info.

Reeko

I had my car flashed last week (don't know if it was L or M).

My take is that the power was smoothed out. I noticed that the little nudge that happened around 7K disappeared. At first I thought it was slower, but after thinking about it, I think that there used to be a bit of a power drop-off right before 7K (Ports opening?) that made it feel like there was a power boost when the mixture caught back up.

I think that it is making the same power now, just that the little drop/fluctuation is gone, so there is no feeling of a boost.
(I hope I made sense).

snap-on

I hope this helps..

http://forum.mazda6tech.com/viewtopic.php?t=15