Renesis OIL PRESSURE Discussion with Dealer Tech
#677
Funny how Pineapple says their Mod goes from 68 to then 88 PSI, sorry I don't trust these European books Ayrton.
http://www.rebuildingrotaryengines.c..._Oil_Regulator
Obviously you may be seeing higher PSI at WOT, the majority of Owners here do not race their car, the Renny in most cases 'lives' around the 3-4000 RPM.
http://www.rebuildingrotaryengines.c..._Oil_Regulator
Obviously you may be seeing higher PSI at WOT, the majority of Owners here do not race their car, the Renny in most cases 'lives' around the 3-4000 RPM.
If so please forgive me and i'll send it again! With a stock cooling system (twin coolers, stock filter, stock oil pan) 5 bars is the highest pressure i see!
#679
Or if you want to save money and make your own and just place these magnets together (this is all Filtermag do, exact same magnets)...
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BY042SH
10 (Qty) will do just nicely!
#680
Yeah they are way stronger than regular drive magnets but obviously harder to come by. I actually took them out of some brand new drives that came in a server I bought but were pretty much useless because they were only 36GB.
But the Filtermag is the way to go but I have bunch of drives laying around so it's no big deal.
#681
Gee...Talk PSI mate..what the F*** is 5 bars??...I have a bar every morning, you Drink at a Bar, 5 bars of Snickers??
#683
Just line up the loose magnets, they will stick together fine, I put tape on the back, so it is a little easier to "slide" off the filter...
#684
#685
#687
We don't see higher pressures because we have the factory oil coolers-pipes system. This long and narrow system restricts the pressure so much that the rear regulator (78-92,5 PSI) has not affect on the max oil pressure. Actually the rear regulator does not get higher oil pressure in the factory system like 72-75 PSI.
The front regulator determines the max oil pressure in our system
PhillipM and 9krpmrx8 has modified oil cooling system, so the rear regulator determines the max oil pressure in their modified system.
The front regulator determines the max oil pressure in our system
PhillipM and 9krpmrx8 has modified oil cooling system, so the rear regulator determines the max oil pressure in their modified system.
#688
First : e-shaft pellet plug in (related to max pressure when the oil cold but the water gauge shows warm engine)
Second: Less restrictive oil cooling system. Like single cooler systems.
Third: Shims under the regulator's springs.
I think.
#689
We don't see higher pressures because we have the factory oil coolers-pipes system. This long and narrow system restricts the pressure so much that the rear regulator (78-92,5 PSI) has not affect on the max oil pressure. Actually the rear regulator does not get higher oil pressure in the factory system like 72-75 PSI.
The front regulator determines the max oil pressure in our system
PhillipM and 9krpmrx8 has modified oil cooling system, so the rear regulator determines the max oil pressure in their modified system.
The front regulator determines the max oil pressure in our system
PhillipM and 9krpmrx8 has modified oil cooling system, so the rear regulator determines the max oil pressure in their modified system.
Good luck removing the e-shaft thermal pellet without removing the engine
#690
Funny how Pineapple says their Mod goes from 68 to then 88 PSI, sorry I don't trust these European books Ayrton.
http://www.rebuildingrotaryengines.c..._Oil_Regulator
Obviously you may be seeing higher PSI at WOT, the majority of Owners here do not race their car, the Renny in most cases 'lives' around the 3-4000 RPM.
http://www.rebuildingrotaryengines.c..._Oil_Regulator
Obviously you may be seeing higher PSI at WOT, the majority of Owners here do not race their car, the Renny in most cases 'lives' around the 3-4000 RPM.
• An oil pressure regulator has been adopted on the rear side housing to release oil when the oil pressure is 538-638 kPa {5.5-6.5 kgf/cm2, 78.0-92.5 psi} or more.
Actually I have this data for long times, but my oil pressure gauge shows only 74 PSI max pressure, so I beleived your datas are right. But the single coolers systems justified the european (78-92,5 PSI) datas.
Otherwise, if this data would not be true, what would be the explanation of the single coolers 90 PSI max pressure, in your opinion? The rear regulator can't control the max pressure? It is impossible. There is so much difference between 74 and 92,5 PSI
#691
#692
Ok, I find the same datas on the newest European WEBMESI (only for official services) site.
• An oil pressure regulator has been adopted on the rear side housing to release oil when the oil pressure is 538-638 kPa {5.5-6.5 kgf/cm2, 78.0-92.5 psi} or more.
Actually I have this data for long times, but my oil pressure gauge shows only 74 PSI max pressure, so I beleived your datas are right. But the single coolers systems justified the european (78-92,5 PSI) datas.
Otherwise, if this data would not be true, what would be the explanation of the single coolers 90 PSI max pressure, in your opinion? The rear regulator can't control the max pressure? It is impossible. There is so much difference between 74 and 92,5 PSI
• An oil pressure regulator has been adopted on the rear side housing to release oil when the oil pressure is 538-638 kPa {5.5-6.5 kgf/cm2, 78.0-92.5 psi} or more.
Actually I have this data for long times, but my oil pressure gauge shows only 74 PSI max pressure, so I beleived your datas are right. But the single coolers systems justified the european (78-92,5 PSI) datas.
Otherwise, if this data would not be true, what would be the explanation of the single coolers 90 PSI max pressure, in your opinion? The rear regulator can't control the max pressure? It is impossible. There is so much difference between 74 and 92,5 PSI
Sorry, when you say European I think UK, the S1's in UK have the 2 Oil Coolers!!..
Yes, my EPC Confirms it...How does one work that out???
Australia is far hotter than the UK, we get one cooler they get 2!!!..STUPID!
ALL S2 or R3 here have 2, except the Autos..still only 1.
So that explains the higher readings if you only have the one cooler in Europe.
#693
Giorgio, there is your answer, 1 OC = higher pressure, 2 like in the USA and UK... = lower readings..
As has been confirmed by 9K, Mazda *Fecked* up for USA and UK models by not upgrading By Pass Valve for 2 Oil Coolers...with the same Oil Pump and valves.
EDIT:, So, anyone who has installed the SECOND OIL Cooler, you should upgrade the B P Valves.
The FD RX-7 has 2 OC, but a different Rear By Pass Valve assembly and larger displacement Oil Pump.
As has been confirmed by 9K, Mazda *Fecked* up for USA and UK models by not upgrading By Pass Valve for 2 Oil Coolers...with the same Oil Pump and valves.
EDIT:, So, anyone who has installed the SECOND OIL Cooler, you should upgrade the B P Valves.
The FD RX-7 has 2 OC, but a different Rear By Pass Valve assembly and larger displacement Oil Pump.
Last edited by ASH8; 11-28-2009 at 03:57 AM.
#695
Giorgio, there is your answer, 1 OC = higher pressure, 2 like in the USA and UK... = lower readings..
As has been confirmed by 9K, Mazda *Fecked* up for USA and UK models by not upgrading By Pass Valve for 2 Oil Coolers...with the same Oil Pump and valves.
EDIT:, So, anyone who has installed the SECOND OIL Cooler, you should upgrade the B P Valves.
The FD RX-7 has 2 OC, but a different Rear By Pass Valve assembly and larger displacement Oil Pump.
As has been confirmed by 9K, Mazda *Fecked* up for USA and UK models by not upgrading By Pass Valve for 2 Oil Coolers...with the same Oil Pump and valves.
EDIT:, So, anyone who has installed the SECOND OIL Cooler, you should upgrade the B P Valves.
The FD RX-7 has 2 OC, but a different Rear By Pass Valve assembly and larger displacement Oil Pump.
did anybody remove the OC t-stats? do they see an increased pressure? maybe that's another restriction that should be considered!
#696
Funny how Pineapple says their Mod goes from 68 to then 88 PSI, sorry I don't trust these European books Ayrton.
http://www.rebuildingrotaryengines.c..._Oil_Regulator
Obviously you may be seeing higher PSI at WOT, the majority of Owners here do not race their car, the Renny in most cases 'lives' around the 3-4000 RPM.
http://www.rebuildingrotaryengines.c..._Oil_Regulator
Obviously you may be seeing higher PSI at WOT, the majority of Owners here do not race their car, the Renny in most cases 'lives' around the 3-4000 RPM.
The only thing is that test isn't particularly accurate as they're testing it with air, which obviously has vastly different properties than motor oils.
#697
these are good infos, wonder how long it will take for mazmart to step into production with the remedy bypasses!! as you can see my oil pressure is very stable up there but still lower than it should be. how can we see this engineering flaw in a modern car? it's a freaking huge difference, 15psi between a 2 and a single oil cooler model...
did anybody remove the OC t-stats? do they see an increased pressure? maybe that's another restriction that should be considered!
did anybody remove the OC t-stats? do they see an increased pressure? maybe that's another restriction that should be considered!
Paul.
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#699
#700
Bloody fun though.
There's a reason most car manufacturers have specific suspension settings for the UK, everbody thinks they're the next F1 driver...