Raptor75

Tell you the truth having a car that needs an enema every few years is not my idea of a good solution. I wonder why the RX-7 were not as susceptible to this as the 8s?

nycgps

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Because Rx7 was never as wide spread as Rx8 today.

This *Mazda fix* is not really a fix, they're just trying to *see if this will make the problem "less" likely to appear*.

this is what the 4-5th time that Mazda "increased" the OMP rate. its still not enough.

Premix is the *only way* to do this. We know, Mazda knows. But too bad Mazda cant tell people to premix, too many legal issues(and sales might drop dead).

So just premix. or just pray & hope nothing will go wrong.

Razz1

Zephyrzone

Yep. +1

HERO

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really? I complained about lack of power, and didnt mention MSP16 at all. The service tech was the one who immediately said, "good timing, theres a new recall just for that!" Then when I get my car back all they did was reflash the ECU and suggest I do an "induction flush" for 119.95?

nycgps

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If u're still under warranty, that means they tried to rip u off.

Actually, they did rip u off, since they suppose to do the cleaning under warranty.

Well, Just follow my DIY and u will be *SET* in no time. the cleaner cost only 20 bux + a few bux shipping (if thats all u buy)

HERO

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thanks! reading through your diy now!!

Raptor75

I thought that the combine RX-7 sales far out numbered RX-8 sales. I agree with you observation on the oil and as pointed out so does Mazda with the addition of the 3rd oiler.

nycgps

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if u talk about the world wide sales then yeah I guess.

but if its just US sales .... *sweat*

olddragger

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the rx8 is a tough car--it is realiable --didnt mean otherwise. it is only when an owner wants it running at its peak ALL the time, or is trying to squeeze a little more out of it, or is tracking etc that certain things become evident.
We forget that centrifulgul (spelling!) force is a major factor in keeping the seals in place and functioning. So the higher rpm you can consistanly mantain the better(as far as the seals and performance is concerned)--however that is not very practical in everyday driving. Heat and gas milage are 2 things that come to mind. Doesnt your car run much better after surviving a track w/e? There is a reason for that. So a 3nd injector does not solve all this. It is good, the electrical mop is good but the "fix" is not there yet.
olddragger

nycgps

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PREMIX !

r0tor

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so your engine can die of carbon lock instead of seal wear...

nycgps

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u do know that carbon is a by product that came from the Gasoline me and u use everyday right ? -_-

r0tor

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and you do know the more oil you put in the gas, the more carbon you will get (unless your using something like MM oil)... actually i know you do since i believe it was you that posted how horrible your spark plugs looked after a few hundred miles...

and carbon has killed more of our engines then seal wear...

nycgps

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those plugs were racing plugs, its *meant* to foul under street driving conditions.

Plus our *pig rich* fuel mixture ...

I went back to the way I premix, which is about 8oz-12oz now. I just *look* at the plugs couple days ago when I do the tranny fluid swap from RP Maxgear to Redline's MT-90. my plugs looks fine for now. it has about 800 miles on them (the foul HKS plugs had about 1K miles, but its already like crap)

Only time will tell tho.

Blazed

I just called Tustin Mazda about doing this procedure and they said it would take 20 to 30 minutes. After looking over the service bulletin i saw that step 12 said to let the cleaner soak for at least an hour. After that there is a lot of testing that needs to be done while the engine is idling and driving. There is also a test drive procedure. I called and asked how it could be done so quickly when some steps take so long. The guy told me that the cleaner only needs to be left there for an hour if you have a k&n intake or filter. Also, i asked about the test drive with the sensor hooked up to the car and he said this was unnecessary and i can just drive it normally. Should i take my car there for this service or is this guy a complete crackhead?

musclecarconvrt

Crackhead. Perfect example of a tech who wants to get by with as little work as possible. I wouldn't trust them to air up my tires.

nycgps

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only an hour when its using K&N intake or filter?

I almost faint when I Saw that line. These ppl are really full of Crap.

U dont have to do the test drive if u're sure ur car has no problem. I have the testing tools, but never use it. One day I will, just not yet.

Do it urself, just follow my DIY, is not hard. u dont even need to jack ur car up

Blazed

Normally i do most work myself but this seems like a lot of work. Also if the dealership is doing it for free shouldnt i just take it in?

musclecarconvrt

If you have a good service department that you trust, then sure. But the bonehead who told you a K&N intake or filter somehow altered the time it takes for cleaner to work and the importance of his mandated procedure is a huge red flag. I wouldn't trust them.

Blazed

That sucks cuz this is the closest dealership to me. Anyone know any good sevice departments in the OC, near UCI if possible?

2tone

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update: just took my car in this morning, at 8am, to get a full test to see if the engine needs replacing. i posted a while back, but i had my 2nd lack-of-power issue, took it in to get the tsb, and he said let's do a full check and contact mnao to see if you need a new engine. hopefully i'll hear back tomorrow. he said it would def take o/n. i miss my 8!!

Razz1

Beach Mazda in HB or Tustin.

Razz1

You forget................

They redesigned the Rotor to be more oval.

robrecht

You're talking about the future 16X? The 3rd injector will be available in a couple of months in the 2009 RX-8.