New TSB 3/14/08
03-26-2008, 11:41 PM
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If u're still in bumper to bumper warranty then just go in , tell them u had powerloss issue last summer, and tell them to do MSP16.
if u're out, no biggie, 2 hours of labor should be more than enough to do the flash and cleaning. (Plus the part, 20 dollar cleaner ?)
03-27-2008, 12:02 AM
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Are you kidding me? I've been selling them since February!
https://www.rx8club.com/mazdamaniac-183/cobb-accessport-discussion-140117/
https://www.rx8club.com/mazdamaniac-183/cobb-accessport-discussion-140117/
03-27-2008, 12:11 AM
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Are you kidding me? I've been selling them since February!
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=140117
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=140117
700 bux ... jesus, if I knew this earlier I would of bought this first instead of the Autoexe under brace ...
hmm, **** so much money to spend ... I will get it as soon as I have the cash
03-27-2008, 07:48 AM
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Never the less it feels like a whole new car now.
03-27-2008, 10:44 AM
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The local Mazda dealer's a ****. Last time I was gonna pay him for a stupid spark plug swap, they tried charging me $300. WTF? I did it myself for 80 bux. They were saying the plugs themselves cost $120 total too.
03-27-2008, 10:49 AM
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Thats how Mazda make money.
they want to charge you 120 bux for plugs, thats pretty typical, but 180 bux for labor? Get the fuxk outa here, I dont even need to take my wheel off and I can swap all 4 plug in less than an hour.
Its like that, thats probably why dealership hates me.
Or You can get MM's AccessPORT and load the newest map yourself. Yes Its expensive, but AccessPORT itself is worth the price.
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03-27-2008, 11:52 AM
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Its raining all day here, but further driving seems to support a general increase in smoothness (attribute that to carbon removal), but no serious umphh. Maybe a slight increase in the intesity of port actuations, but nothing that is major. Since mine got new plugs along with the decarb and flash, I really can't say what helped more.
03-27-2008, 03:10 PM
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Well im a new 04 rx8 owner that i bought a couple days ago from a ford dealership, they did not have the equip or know how on the flash msp16, so i came home from another state with the car and called my local mazda dealer and have an appt for tomorrow morn at 10:30am for them to apply the msp16 to my car at no charge as the car is still under warranty till 8-27-08.
The car only has 19k orig miles on it and is in near mint condition.
I did goto carfacts when i furst gotit and it had 16 entries but they wanted 24.95 for the detail of those entries so i said i will wait and ask the dealer when i take it to them, so i called this morn and set up the appt for the reflash and he asked for the vin to make sure it was one of the ones that would need the flash of msp16, and of course it is, so while i had him on the phone while my car info was on his pc screen i asked him about the 16 entries i seen on carfax and he said it was towed 2x,s for flooding in late 04 and some other minor issues.
I want to get a more detailed printout when i take it in tomorrow and he will do it for me hehe.
Anyway as i said im new to rotaries so i honestly dunno if my car is ruuning as it should or not, it idles arond 700rpm and is maybe a little rough on the idle, it seems to start ok from a cold start also.
Also it is a little sluggesh from s dead start even with near full throttle up and until the rpm,s reach 4k and then it literally just about throws you way into the seat and yur immediatly doing 90mph lol.
As i said i dunno whats normal or not but i just love the way it drives.
I will reply back here to this thread with my results if any or no differences after the flash of my car when i get back.
Is there any special things i should say to them or ask for while its still under warranty?
The car only has 19k orig miles on it and is in near mint condition.
I did goto carfacts when i furst gotit and it had 16 entries but they wanted 24.95 for the detail of those entries so i said i will wait and ask the dealer when i take it to them, so i called this morn and set up the appt for the reflash and he asked for the vin to make sure it was one of the ones that would need the flash of msp16, and of course it is, so while i had him on the phone while my car info was on his pc screen i asked him about the 16 entries i seen on carfax and he said it was towed 2x,s for flooding in late 04 and some other minor issues.
I want to get a more detailed printout when i take it in tomorrow and he will do it for me hehe.
Anyway as i said im new to rotaries so i honestly dunno if my car is ruuning as it should or not, it idles arond 700rpm and is maybe a little rough on the idle, it seems to start ok from a cold start also.
Also it is a little sluggesh from s dead start even with near full throttle up and until the rpm,s reach 4k and then it literally just about throws you way into the seat and yur immediatly doing 90mph lol.
As i said i dunno whats normal or not but i just love the way it drives.
I will reply back here to this thread with my results if any or no differences after the flash of my car when i get back.
Is there any special things i should say to them or ask for while its still under warranty?
03-27-2008, 03:54 PM
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^ bad dealership, bad! How could a Ford dealer tell you they couldn't check? BS.
Anyway, check the Rosenthal site (finishlineperformance.com) and download the recalls. Make sure those have been done. I think it's 3 for the 04 8, but I'm not 100% sure on that since I have an 05. They should be listed on the carfax, and your dealer can tell you either way, so it's not too big a deal. If there's a recall (note: not tsb, but recall) that was not done you should report the ford place you bought it from. There's no excuse for that, as ford has access to all the info anyway.
The power is all in the 6-9k range, so that sounds normal.
Anyway, check the Rosenthal site (finishlineperformance.com) and download the recalls. Make sure those have been done. I think it's 3 for the 04 8, but I'm not 100% sure on that since I have an 05. They should be listed on the carfax, and your dealer can tell you either way, so it's not too big a deal. If there's a recall (note: not tsb, but recall) that was not done you should report the ford place you bought it from. There's no excuse for that, as ford has access to all the info anyway.
The power is all in the 6-9k range, so that sounds normal.
03-27-2008, 03:58 PM
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^ bad dealership, bad! How could a Ford dealer tell you they couldn't check? BS.
Anyway, check the Rosenthal site (finishlineperformance.com) and download the recalls. Make sure those have been done. I think it's 3 for the 04 8, but I'm not 100% sure on that since I have an 05. They should be listed on the carfax, and your dealer can tell you either way, so it's not too big a deal. If there's a recall (note: not tsb, but recall) that was not done you should report the ford place you bought it from. There's no excuse for that, as ford has access to all the info anyway.
The power is all in the 6-9k range, so that sounds normal.
Anyway, check the Rosenthal site (finishlineperformance.com) and download the recalls. Make sure those have been done. I think it's 3 for the 04 8, but I'm not 100% sure on that since I have an 05. They should be listed on the carfax, and your dealer can tell you either way, so it's not too big a deal. If there's a recall (note: not tsb, but recall) that was not done you should report the ford place you bought it from. There's no excuse for that, as ford has access to all the info anyway.
The power is all in the 6-9k range, so that sounds normal.
Anyway, as soon as the OP gets to the dealership, tell them to do MSP16, and most important is the Engine no start TSB, which should give u a new faster spinning starter (about 300rpm+/-) and a new battery.
MSP16 will cover the 4206f recall flash, so just MSP16 will be fine.
Take some time and read all TSB. most of the applies to 04.
03-27-2008, 04:02 PM
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If its 04 and never did any recalls, there should be 3.
Anyway, as soon as the OP gets to the dealership, tell them to do MSP16, and most important is the Engine no start TSB, which should give u a new faster spinning starter (about 300rpm+/-) and a new battery.
MSP16 will cover the 4206f recall flash, so just MSP16 will be fine.
Take some time and read all TSB. most of the applies to 04.
Anyway, as soon as the OP gets to the dealership, tell them to do MSP16, and most important is the Engine no start TSB, which should give u a new faster spinning starter (about 300rpm+/-) and a new battery.
MSP16 will cover the 4206f recall flash, so just MSP16 will be fine.
Take some time and read all TSB. most of the applies to 04.
03-27-2008, 04:22 PM
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TSBs are not necessarily free. They are covered on vehicles that have complaints about the particular issue for that TSB. ie - if you have the problem they should cover it. Recalls by law should have been checked and completed before the dealer sold you the car.
03-27-2008, 07:32 PM
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got this done today. it feels smoother, but i'll let you know in the coming few days. i havent driven it enough to really guage a difference. my dealer treated this as a recall and gave me no hassle.
EDIT: 2005 6MT. 10k miles (its a baby) the last flash was the emission recall flash.
EDIT: 2005 6MT. 10k miles (its a baby) the last flash was the emission recall flash.
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