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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tvtech3
I did goto carfacts when i furst gotit and it had 16 entries but they wanted 24.95 for the detail of those entries so i said i will wait...
Congrats on the new purchase.

However, being too cheap to spend $25 when buying a new car - especially when there are 16 entries???
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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someone had to say it! lawdy knows that was the first thing I thought.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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If its 04 and never did any recalls, there should be 3.

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1. Transmission Vibration Dampner
2. Control arm check for part that can break
3. Install blanket over fuel tank so idiots that rev it forever while sitting still dont catch the car on fire. also a flash that cuts teh revs if it revs in neutral too long

4. The last one for the Vacuum check/replace engine stuff
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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I just got a notice in the mail stating the new flash is a recall.

I called the dealer and they insist it is a recall not a TSB
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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I did a heavy seafoam enima Friday night, still pulling a less than desirable 15 in/hg vacuum @ 850 rpm idle haven't located a local rotary compression tool yet for the final analysis
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
I just got a notice in the mail stating the new flash is a recall.

I called the dealer and they insist it is a recall not a TSB

What? are you serious? I guess I will un-install the AP tune before I go in and get this done. One thing nice about the AP is that I will always have my custom tune with me.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
I just got a notice in the mail stating the new flash is a recall.

I called the dealer and they insist it is a recall not a TSB
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What? are you serious? I guess I will un-install the AP tune before I go in and get this done. One thing nice about the AP is that I will always have my custom tune with me.
I never got any mail.

Hmm, the TSB never said its recall, its just *if they come in, update it* kind of thing
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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fwiw:

WARRANTY INFORMATION
NOTE:
• This warranty information applies only to verified customer complaints on vehicles eligible for warranty
repair.
Refer to the Warranty Wizard for warranty term information.
• Additional diagnostic time cannot be claimed for this repair.
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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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My card is pink and it says I have a recall out standing. The service writer insists its this and it is not a TSB.

It looks like I will have to take it in so I'm on record of getting it done.

Need to make sure my warrenty is covered.

A friend of mine just had his rotor crack at 90k and got a new motor so...............

I'm going to play along and get it done.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Can you scan it or take a photo? We're all curious.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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I was told it's a TSB, but they did it for free since it fell under the emissions warranty coverage which goes up to 80k.

I did notice that my car wasn't a huge fan of the reflash at first once it was done. The first two times I started the car when trying to leave the dealership it died. After that for the first 30 miles or so when I'd push the clutch in it'd try to do the same thing. After that it's been fine, though. Another local RX-8 that had the reflash done did the same thing.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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I just checked my profile at Mazdausa.com. It says there is a recall for the car that I don't recall seeing there 3/26/08 when I entered in some maintenance I'd done.

"There is a recall concerning: * RX-8 - Engine Lack Of Power"

There is no further information.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by savedsol
I just checked my profile at Mazdausa.com. It says there is a recall for the car that I don't recall seeing there 3/26/08 when I entered in some maintenance I'd done.

"There is a recall concerning: * RX-8 - Engine Lack Of Power"

There is no further information.
It's probably the update to the PCM. Just take it to the dealer, they will reflash the computer.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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I Only Have 750 Miles On My Car But I Made An Appointment To Have The Car Re-flashed Monday. That Rotor Seal Failure Part Had Me Concerned!
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by savedsol
I just checked my profile at Mazdausa.com. It says there is a recall for the car that I don't recall seeing there 3/26/08 when I entered in some maintenance I'd done.

"There is a recall concerning: * RX-8 - Engine Lack Of Power"

There is no further information.
Hmm ... I just checked mine I have the same thing ...

Well if its really a *recall*, then Mazda should've send a recall notice to ALL of us.

but nope, nothing from Mazda, its been what 2-3 weeks since the *Suppose to be TSB* came out ?
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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If you go to the service bulletins at Rosenthal and open the MSP-16 bulletin, it specifically states that any 8 produced between April 10, 2003 through November 9, 2007 is affected. The MSP is to be performed whenever an 8 is brought in for routine servicing or with a lack of power complaint. I guess that eventually anyone in the applicable VIN range will be getting a postcard. On the other hand, you can always go in for an oil change and request the MSP and it is not a chargeable cost to the owner.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Give it time. 2-3 weeks for a mailed recall notice is short.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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Also, as I've said, unless it's already hot where you are, this is NOT something that must be done immediately:

"Some 2004-2008 RX-8 vehicles may experience a lack of engine power and/or low/rough engine idle speed in high ambient temperatures. A revised PCM calibration is available which increases metering oil lubrication amount during engine start and changes ignition timing control during high ambient temperature conditions."
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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I live in So Cal. I just had my 2005 done 45 min ago. My car is one of those lucky one that does not giving much troubles. I do drive the crap out of it though! Initial observation compare to prior is not much different. I will find out more in a couple of days if this new flash will help since the weather forecast that So Cal will be hot in the next day or so up to 90F, they said.

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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by New Yorker
Also, as I've said, unless it's already hot where you are, this is NOT something that must be done immediately:

"Some 2004-2008 RX-8 vehicles may experience a lack of engine power and/or low/rough engine idle speed in high ambient temperatures. A revised PCM calibration is available which increases metering oil lubrication amount during engine start and changes ignition timing control during high ambient temperature conditions."
More like Mazda is trying to band aid the problem. to prevent more Apex seals from wrapping.

meh, I premix, I dont really care about this "recall/update"

I wait b4 my warranty expires.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Here she is

Its good they are forcing the issue but a recall loose bad for resale.

I probably should complain of lak of power and get the TSB cleaning done.

Can I teust them to do it correctly without frying the CAT?

Any damage done may not be seen for months or years depending upon how much you drive.
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 05:14 AM
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As far as I know any recall notice is going to come to you directly from Mazda, not your local dealer. So either their records show you missed some previously issued recall, or they are confused about this latest msp.
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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As far as I know any recall notice is going to come to you directly from Mazda, not your local dealer. So either their records show you missed some previously issued recall, or they are confused about this latest msp.
No, no. I checked on the Mazda web site, and the engine lack of power MSP from 3/14 is a recall. I think that the dealer is probably being proactive in trying to get the car in. Good on the dealer.
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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yea when I called in a few days ago about other issues, they told me theres a new recall I need to have taken care of as well........ good job stealership??
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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Question (I have searched and will search more, but I'm pressed for time right now since I'm waiting for a call back from the dealership): should the 2nd "Lack of Power" TSB (014/08 - with the de-carb service, etc.) be done if the car is experiecing lack of power and is it covered by the 60000 mile powertrain warranty? I can't see why it shouldn't be, but my car is a the dealership right now and all they will do is the MSP16 TSB and are refusing to do the other.

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