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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Started to premix at 60k IIRC

expo - that "less tailpipe soot with premix" thing always puzzled me. The first thing I thought when I saw those exhaust ports is "oh, that's where it all goes"
Those carbons in Expo's motor is not that bad.

After my last sparkplug's replacement and saw all those carbon on the plugs, I turn my premix down to about 4oz every fillup.(used to do 8oz per fillup)

If its just 1/2 tank empty I will just put 2 oz.

Thx to Expo for *giving up* his motor

and Thx to Paul for taking time to Snap those pics

and Thx to the Rick Engman for building all these wonderful engines

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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
and Thx to the Rick Engman for building all these wondering engines
Wondering? What are they wondering?

I think I might tune down the premix a little after reading this... I'm at 7oz per fillup
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Wondering? What are they wondering?

I think I might tune down the premix a little after reading this... I'm at 7oz per fillup
I mean wonderful

People make mistakes when they're hungry, let me find something to eat.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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I thought you were living off Syntec these days?
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CnnmnSchnpps
I thought you were living off Syntec these days?
Syntec taste bad to me.

I need some *Real* food. Japanese, Chinese, American, etc
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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So you favor normal food over synthetic food? And here I thought you were all for synthetic...
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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By the way, Royal Purple 5W40 meets API SM, rather than just SL for their 5W30. I know it's not a big deal to some, but it might be to others as I think the SM grade is supposed to be better for cats.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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So you favor normal food over synthetic food? And here I thought you were all for synthetic...
There are organics Japanese, Chinese, and American resturants out there u know

and I hate MSGs, Thats probably one of the few Synthetics that I *hate* :P

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By the way, Royal Purple 5W40 meets API SM, rather than just SL for their 5W30. I know it's not a big deal to some, but it might be to others as I think the SM grade is supposed to be better for cats.
WHO CARES ABOUT CATS ! :P

I like SL grades better.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
WHO CARES ABOUT CATS ! :P
You should considering you're in a CARB state.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LionZoo
You should considering you're in a CARB state.
I am, and I like fresh air.

I think they should force every cars for CATs check up every 2 years or so. Cuz I've seen too many of those *black smoke* cars running around. If its in places like Hong Kong they will pull you over even just having black looking smoke
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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and I hate MSGs
The whole MSG thing was a bunch of hype.. In Japan they got a container of MSG at every table like you would have salt and pepper here
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CnnmnSchnpps
The whole MSG thing was a bunch of hype.. In Japan they got a container of MSG at every table like you would have salt and pepper here
Thats why when I was in Japan, I never use it
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Originally Posted by nycgps
I am, and I like fresh air.

I think they should force every cars for CATs check up every 2 years or so. Cuz I've seen too many of those *black smoke* cars running around. If its in places like Hong Kong they will pull you over even just having black looking smoke
I miss Hong Kong (Asia in general), but there aren't that many sports cars there and certainly few rotaries.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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I miss Hong Kong (Asia in general), but there aren't that many sports cars there and certainly few rotaries.
Where have you been in Hong Kong ? Lantau island or something ? lol

I've seen way WAY MORE sports car in Hong kong than even in Japan.

Ferraris espeically, Im not sure about now but couple years ago Hong kong is the place where most Ferraris went. Hell they even have 2 Ferrari F430 GT when they have no Racing history (Thats one of the requirements to get one of those suckers)

GT-Rs R34-32 everywhere, Supras, u name it

Not much Vette tho thats for sure.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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I was in Hong Kong for one day and I saw two sweet-looking R34s fly by.. That's more than I saw in Tokyo in 2+ weeks..
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Here are the parts that went back into the motor.

Paul.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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^^ Those looks sexy ~~~~
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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Here are more of the sexy parts.

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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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And yet some more.

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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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What the heck, some more.

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STOP ! STOP STOP !

ARgh !
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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And the finished product.

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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
We used to see bearings looking like this at 180 to 200k. The front bearing is wiped out (Beyond being re-used). It's down to the copper, the last stop before the steel. This is not good. The reason I made the controversial statements regarding viscoscity at the beginning of ths thread is due to the number of these engines (Renesis) we've built and the common observations vs rotaries from the past when Mazda was recommending 20W50.

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Thanks Paul. I know I use to use 20W-50 in my BP RX-4 and PP REPU. With out a problem. I just wish I could do that now, I think I'd feel a little more at ease. Ahh the good old days.
Thanks for your enlightening photos and comments on what you have found.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
STOP ! STOP STOP !

ARgh !
Keep your clothes on Jackson. It was only meant to be a tease .

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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Thanks Paul. I know I use to use 20W-50 in my BP RX-4 and PP REPU. With out a problem. I just wish I could do that now, I think I'd feel a little more at ease. Ahh the good old days.
Thanks for your enlightening photos and comments on what you have found.

Thanks for your subscription Easy. I've enjoyed documenting the process.

The 5W or 10W40 should do you just fine.

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