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06-28-2006, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by swoope
comes out of closed loop. i think that is right...
afr drops out of trying to run stoci to ~ mid to high 13s... cat temp drops from ~ 1630 to 1550. never noticed that before this flash...
does it at anything about 75 mph... takes about 45 seconds of cruising at that speed for it to start....
did i mention the idle is much better.
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afr drops out of trying to run stoci to ~ mid to high 13s... cat temp drops from ~ 1630 to 1550. never noticed that before this flash...
does it at anything about 75 mph... takes about 45 seconds of cruising at that speed for it to start....
did i mention the idle is much better.
beers
06-29-2006, 04:39 AM
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Wouldn't this be bad for cruising gas mileage?
But on the other hand would this be good for a little more passing power?
But on the other hand would this be good for a little more passing power?
what does that mean in laymans terms?
06-29-2006, 04:10 PM
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Hey Zoom44 am I reading you right are you saying this is a flash you'd avoid?
Originally Posted by zoom44
you have mail back.
jeff intereseting thing- my dealer wants to alwayts flash everyone BECAUSE i gave them a hard time when they wouldnt Do the original MSP04 M flash. now im going to be th eone saying DONT flash me this time.
also since this started last year with the failures and changing the mop profile with the "california " flash etc i have had a conversation with the state attorney general's office. they are of the opinion that using a flash to change the way the car operates is the same as changing a part or using a wrench or screwdriver to change it.
That is the service center shhould inform the owner about what htey are goign to to do BEFORE its done and also explain the changes and they will do to your car. i believe every state has a law like this. itll be interesting to see if the dealer can actually get an explanation for me. At least when it becomes a recall there will be SOME information about the change
jeff intereseting thing- my dealer wants to alwayts flash everyone BECAUSE i gave them a hard time when they wouldnt Do the original MSP04 M flash. now im going to be th eone saying DONT flash me this time.
also since this started last year with the failures and changing the mop profile with the "california " flash etc i have had a conversation with the state attorney general's office. they are of the opinion that using a flash to change the way the car operates is the same as changing a part or using a wrench or screwdriver to change it.
That is the service center shhould inform the owner about what htey are goign to to do BEFORE its done and also explain the changes and they will do to your car. i believe every state has a law like this. itll be interesting to see if the dealer can actually get an explanation for me. At least when it becomes a recall there will be SOME information about the change
06-29-2006, 04:29 PM
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I wanna know what your AFR is at 70mph, currently it runs about 14.7-14.8 for me. I do notice a serious dropoff the higher the speed after 70 due to the load. At 80mph your at freaken 4 grand.
Frankly, since 70mph is the legal speed limit nearly everywhere, above that I don't feel bad if mileage falls off.
Frankly, since 70mph is the legal speed limit nearly everywhere, above that I don't feel bad if mileage falls off.
06-29-2006, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Raptor75
Hey Zoom44 am I reading you right are you saying this is a flash you'd avoid?
06-30-2006, 07:54 AM
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Hey late? What was your gas mileage before you go the flash? I know you keep a close eye on it and have posted it somewhere but I am too lazy to search. To me it sounds like you are getting really good gas mileage. I never average over 19mpg on mixed driving and may have hit 22mpg on an all highway trip to FL.
06-30-2006, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by whenson417
Hey late? What was your gas mileage before you go the flash? I know you keep a close eye on it and have posted it somewhere but I am too lazy to search. To me it sounds like you are getting really good gas mileage. I never average over 19mpg on mixed driving and may have hit 22mpg on an all highway trip to FL.
while it is off topic, it is interesting to look at.
-229 trips to the gas station
-44.386 miles
-193 miles per tank average
-$25.41 average cost per visit to the automobile lemonade stand
-8.9 MPG, worst, track is a wonderful thing...
-23.3 MPG best
-17.3 MPG average
this is about 4000 miles behind my current point, I just have not put it all into the DB yet.
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06-30-2006, 05:16 PM
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let me see if i understand this correctly--after a certain time frame --over a certain speed(or rpm/load?) the a/f leans out a little. Correct? If that is correct then how on earth did the cat temp drop? Maybe more oil? Or did the a/f actually richen some? Im confused here. I wonder if track behavior would change also/
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06-30-2006, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
then this all makes sense and I am staying the heck away from it and continue to use my premix!
invaluable info--thanks
Olddragger
invaluable info--thanks
Olddragger
07-03-2006, 08:25 PM
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I took my 8 in to the shop on June 20th because I was having hard starts about 20% of the time (taking 3-4 seconds to finally catch and fire up). The said there was a new flash out, so hopefully I got the very latest one. The car ran fine for about a week, but it's right back to doing the same thing. I've got an '04 automatic with 39K miles. And yes, I've got the new battery and starter from a flood 6 months ago. So basically, I've noticed no difference in operation for my car.
07-03-2006, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostRidr
I took my 8 in to the shop on June 20th because I was having hard starts about 20% of the time (taking 3-4 seconds to finally catch and fire up). The said there was a new flash out, so hopefully I got the very latest one. The car ran fine for about a week, but it's right back to doing the same thing. I've got an '04 automatic with 39K miles. And yes, I've got the new battery and starter from a flood 6 months ago. So basically, I've noticed no difference in operation for my car.
what is the same thing... sorry i could search but i am in a troll fight.
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07-04-2006, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by swoope
no,
certian speed certaian time, af richens thus temp drop...
beers
certian speed certaian time, af richens thus temp drop...
beers
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07-04-2006, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MintyFresh
if i have ubderstood correctly, the AF richening + drop in cat temp = even worse milage. So what the hell are they playing at? Its bad enough as it is!
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07-04-2006, 10:02 PM
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Ahh.... going in for my flash tomorrow and I have a feeling my service dept is gonna be dicks about giving it to me since when I went in his responce was "We only do those if WE see the problem". Re-Reading this thread and some of the other problems asociated with it will give me some leverage. I've had at times ruff idle not constant but its comes and goes, that and as someone just posted about the engine taking a few seconds to start, feels like I'm killing the engine at times.
Oh also Swoope, started to do some small research on my car.. there have been sooooo many TSB's not done to this car (there isnt alot true but damn). I'm hoping to force them to find a service record of my car and do any all TSB's that need to be done. I have rust on my rear door sil's (its small and only noticed since I was on my knee's drying my car) and there was a TSB about it from earl last year. -fumes- I have a carfax report on my car and all logged in usages seem to be at my dealership but where done every 3 months.. oil change only anyone meh thinks so..?! lol bah...!
Oh also Swoope, started to do some small research on my car.. there have been sooooo many TSB's not done to this car (there isnt alot true but damn). I'm hoping to force them to find a service record of my car and do any all TSB's that need to be done. I have rust on my rear door sil's (its small and only noticed since I was on my knee's drying my car) and there was a TSB about it from earl last year. -fumes- I have a carfax report on my car and all logged in usages seem to be at my dealership but where done every 3 months.. oil change only anyone meh thinks so..?! lol bah...!
07-04-2006, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Clavius
.. there have been sooooo many TSB's not done to this car (there isnt alot true but damn). I'm hoping to force them to find a service record of my car and do any all TSB's that need to be done.
Be nice to your dealer and you may find he'll be nice to you in return.
07-04-2006, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Clavius
Ahh.... going in for my flash tomorrow and I have a feeling my service dept is gonna be dicks about giving it to me since when I went in his responce was "We only do those if WE see the problem". Re-Reading this thread and some of the other problems asociated with it will give me some leverage. I've had at times ruff idle not constant but its comes and goes, that and as someone just posted about the engine taking a few seconds to start, feels like I'm killing the engine at times.
Oh also Swoope, started to do some small research on my car.. there have been sooooo many TSB's not done to this car (there isnt alot true but damn). I'm hoping to force them to find a service record of my car and do any all TSB's that need to be done. I have rust on my rear door sil's (its small and only noticed since I was on my knee's drying my car) and there was a TSB about it from earl last year. -fumes- I have a carfax report on my car and all logged in usages seem to be at my dealership but where done every 3 months.. oil change only anyone meh thinks so..?! lol bah...!
Oh also Swoope, started to do some small research on my car.. there have been sooooo many TSB's not done to this car (there isnt alot true but damn). I'm hoping to force them to find a service record of my car and do any all TSB's that need to be done. I have rust on my rear door sil's (its small and only noticed since I was on my knee's drying my car) and there was a TSB about it from earl last year. -fumes- I have a carfax report on my car and all logged in usages seem to be at my dealership but where done every 3 months.. oil change only anyone meh thinks so..?! lol bah...!
i have never flooded... so i dont have the starter.. it is cause and effect... note to all... bitching is just bitching.... if you have a real issue address it...
if you just read about an issue but dont have it dont waste there time...
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07-05-2006, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Gomez
You can't force the dealer to do TSB's. A TSB isn't a recall. Too many people here think they are one and the same.
Be nice to your dealer and you may find he'll be nice to you in return.
Be nice to your dealer and you may find he'll be nice to you in return.
Oh can anyone PM me a link maybe to the recalls that have been issued? I have a 04 once again. Thanks guys.!
07-05-2006, 10:27 AM
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there is a sticky thread with link to the website where you can get PDF versions of the recalls and TSBs. but here is another way . go to mazda usa and go to owners register there. yoiu'll need your VIN. it'll show you any recalls that your car has been involved in that have not been done.